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5 minutes ago, NotSoNutty said:

Same, but I don't wanna be bombed :kappa:

Hillary over Trump.

 

Funny thing is that Hillary is much more of a warmonger than Trump.  She's responsible for U.S involvement in Libya, voted for Iraq and is on tape saying that if she was president she would probably attack Iran.  If there is Russian involvement in leaking emails of hers, it's because they're afraid that if she's president that she will likely attack them.

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This election is bigger than the future of America. This will effect the entire world more than we have ever seen before. I know what candidate I want to vote for, but it's still not the best choice. I'm sad to say that we may not even get a president-elect, and that this election is going to be shrouded in a cloud of confusion.

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11 hours ago, ryno7 said:

both suck in their own ways but to be fair hillary may be one of the most qualified people to run for president in an incredibly long time

Saying that you must not know hillary at all. It's not a joke when trump said if he would be president she would be in jail. She is on a streak of disaster and you view her for only the state she is now while running campaign. 

Watch some of this: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2K5v5bm0Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fQJCXkSqbY

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/

 

I'm not saying either Trump or Hillary is better here, both are really unquallified as world leaders.

The sentence i have heard over and over "America is fucked" is true. Goodluck fams.

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7 hours ago, Midamaru said:

Saying that you must not know hillary at all. It's not a joke when trump said if he would be president she would be in jail. She is on a streak of disaster and you view her for only the state she is now while running campaign. 

Watch some of this: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2K5v5bm0Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fQJCXkSqbY

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/

 

I'm not saying either Trump or Hillary is better here, both are really unquallified as world leaders.

The sentence i have heard over and over "America is fucked" is true. Goodluck fams.

You obviously did not read my comment. I said Hillary Clinton is perhaps the most qualified person to run for president in recent history. I did not address the claims for her recent scandals. Living in the white house, being a U.S senator of one of the most populous states, and secretary of state is quite an impressive resume. 

 

As for the scandals you speak of, Clinton has taken responsibility for Benghazi but the blame lies on the Pentagon, Defense Department, and State Department (which she was head of). In 2011, the House of Representatives cut funding for embassy security by $128 million, and another $331 million in 2012. Obama requested more security funding at that time and was denied. At the time, this "embassy" was not such and was a mere outpost, which had 3 guards and 2 others who accompanied Stevens. 5 vs.125 doesn't seem like a fair fight to an underfunded State and Defense Dept. Amidst all this Clinton still took responsibility for the attack (rightfully). Unfortunately she has become the scapegoat for this tragedy due to Republican politics.  We also have Republican Congressman Richard Hannah's comment, “This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton.

I'm not sure what you know about Hillary that I don't. I am well aware of her flaws with decision-making and frankly, her bland personality. However, you speak of her "streak of disasters" but fail to mention Donald's. I'm sure you are aware of the video with him bragging about sexually assaulting women. I've been in many locker rooms from my time as an athlete and this is just simply not "locker room talk" as he claims. What about that time he made fun of a disabled reporter? The birther controversy? Claimed global warming was created by China and then when confronted about it on national television, simply lied? 

I hate to create such a partisan reply to what you said, but frankly, I feel you are failing to see both sides of the argument. While all this ^^^^ might be biased. What is not biased is that Trump has quite a low probability of winning.The way this election has shaped out, Trump needs to win Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, and most likely Arizona. He will probably win Arizona and likely Ohio. Florida seems an off chance and Pennsylvania is nearly impossible, especially with the recent release of his comments about women. Despite this Trump has a chance of winning. He has a solid base of voters who will not leave him no matter what he says. As a result, he must venture out into mainstream America to capture those undecided voters. This has been his biggest flaw. Instead of garnering new votes, he has reinforced the votes that he's already won! He has won the trade vote, the anti-clinton's, hardcore republicans, etc. He needs to prove to America in the next 20+ days that he has the temperament to be present. Difficult but not impossible. 

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4 hours ago, ryno7 said:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BizU-u7RPcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3oTYYTd1F4

Just watch it man, i'm not saying thats the source of all the information you need about her but it all quite sums up. I'm not gonna discuss about who would be a better president, i wouldn't fucking know lmao. I'm just saying that she is horrible and i'm sure there are people that would be great presidents. Trump or Hillary just sound as bad as Kanye West to me. Cmon man, PRESIDENT of a continent and what do you get?

A woman with too many failures, lies and crimes up her sleeves.

A Multi billionaire that has no idea what hes doing, might have done crime too, is a sexist, rapist idk.. but i mean THOSE are the most qualified to be president? hahaha

P.S. I'm not even mentioning her horrible health state..

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41 minutes ago, Midamaru said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BizU-u7RPcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3oTYYTd1F4

Just watch it man, i'm not saying thats the source of all the information you need about her but it all quite sums up. I'm not gonna discuss about who would be a better president, i wouldn't fucking know lmao. I'm just saying that she is horrible and i'm sure there are people that would be great presidents. Trump or Hillary just sound as bad as Kanye West to me. Cmon man, PRESIDENT of a continent and what do you get?

A woman with too many failures, lies and crimes up her sleeves.

A Multi billionaire that has no idea what hes doing, might have done crime too, is a sexist, rapist idk.. but i mean THOSE are the most qualified to be president? hahaha

P.S. I'm not even mentioning her horrible health state..

3rd party is even worse...

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Why are you ruling out the independent 3rd parties? 1/3 of all young voters are actually saying they will be voting for one of the independent parties, and tbh the entire election is a shit show, and just a fyi american politics literally effects over half the planet, weither its for war, or economy, treaty's, ect.... so even if your not an american cit, it matters who wins.

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Tbh, even though I am from Sweden. I'd still vote for Trump if I live in America. As @O/|/|3GA said, this will effect the whole world and not just America. Hillary has already made points that she will attack different countries and tbh that is not what the world needs really. Trump seems like a solid candidate and he has some valid points tbh. Hillary is quite sketchy tbh 

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54 minutes ago, Cech said:

Tbh, even though I am from Sweden. I'd still vote for Trump if I live in America. As @O/|/|3GA said, this will effect the whole world and not just America. Hillary has already made points that she will attack different countries and tbh that is not what the world needs really. Trump seems like a solid candidate and he has some valid points tbh. Hillary is quite sketchy tbh 

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1 hour ago, Cech said:

Tbh, even though I am from Sweden. I'd still vote for Trump if I live in America. As @O/|/|3GA said, this will effect the whole world and not just America. Hillary has already made points that she will attack different countries and tbh that is not what the world needs really. Trump seems like a solid candidate and he has some valid points tbh. Hillary is quite sketchy tbh 

If everyone wanted to the cold truth,

they are both retards

they are both shit

they will both fail

so vote trump

because even though he will fail

its trump

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