Change log 7.9.0

[Guest]

Just now, Furnie Mack said:

In true legit Asylum fashion there is a start of a good thing (rap sheets) but a few complain so it'll be scrapped before we know it. 

Nope. Bamf and Paratus have a vision.

Just wait; you'll love it.

[Heidelberg]

12 minutes ago, Gnashes said:

Nope. Bamf and Paratus have a vision.

Just wait; you'll love it.

TELL ME MORE

[ColtonB205]

8 minutes ago, Gnashes said:

Nope. Bamf and Paratus have a vision.

Just wait; you'll love it.

Interested to see how this affects the meta of asylum. I see many possible uses from officers having this information as it should be something that police should have access to and I am happy to see it arrive.  

[Olivia]

9 hours ago, BlackShot said:

System the way it is:

I actually think it's gonna make things easier. As APD officers know, we have 1st, 2nd and 3rd offenses for each charge. It's extremely hard to know or to memorize how many times a person has committed that crime within the server restart, for example.

With this patch it will be easier, as now we can check how often a person has committed the same crime within the past 24 hours. More serious charges, like harassment, should be the only ones valid for the 1 week history.

All that being said, I think we can take a positive image out of the new system. If the straight to jail policy raises, it either will make players see criminality in a different way or it will make the prison break feature more used.

I see what you're saying here but those 2nd and 3rd offenses were not written with a charge history in mind that cops could reference at any time.  It was written for essentially if a civilian commits a crime 3 times within a short period of time in front of you.  

3rd offense of discharge within a city is jail primarily because it gave the APD a way to subdue those Kavala pistol bangers who repeatedly are shooting in cities, giving the cops a hard time and posing a threat to civilians, several times within an hour or so.  It was not meant to punish the BH who might do it 3 times in one week.  3rd offense of noise disturbance and insurance fraud are also jail.  If cops start adding those charges now, there are going to be a lot more suspects sent straight to jail.  (I honestly can't remember the last time I made use of a 3rd offense of anything.)  

On a side note, I didn't read @eleec's comment as sarcastic.  It's true.  The APD will have to adapt.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

[Bikstok]

38 minutes ago, bamf said:

I think people are only seeing things as they are, and not as they will be. 

[Midamaru]

1 hour ago, Bikstok said:

Rap sheet

So that they can see your 300 manslaughters in the past 24 hours.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Midamaru

[JacobHarr]

Havnt seen a solid patch in a while, this one looks pretty promising. Thanks gnashes 

[Sheriff Rick Grimes]

1 hour ago, Furnie Mack said:

In true legit Asylum fashion there is a start of a good thing (rap sheets) but a few complain so it'll be scrapped before we know it. 

 

Nobody is asking for it to be scrapped.  Just right now it is saving your past charges too long and that's going to lead to robocopping.  If it saved it for only a restart or two, it would be much more fair and accurate as to what the player was actually doing.

[Vanilla Coke]

10 hours ago, The Monopoly Man said:

An issue was when rebels would start a fed with enough cops online, the cops would then log out/soft log to lobby so the rebels couldn't pick up the gold bars. Now regardless if they log out after the fed has been started, you can still pick up the gold bars. 

Tenacity ran into issues with cops dying and going to debug, there was a reason for this stopping the fed, but probably shouldn't mention it on the forums.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Sheriff Rick Grimes said:

 

Nobody is asking for it to be scrapped.  Just right now it is saving your past charges too long and that's going to lead to robocopping.  If it saved it for only a restart or two, it would be much more fair and accurate as to what the player was actually doing.

It's not being added as a means for cops to be harsher on people for their current charges based on prior history.

As Bamf said; if the APD starts to robocop too much, we'll step in and do something to change it. I'd recommend just waiting until they reveal the rest of their plans for this whole system first.

[Sheriff Rick Grimes]

10 minutes ago, Gnashes said:

It's not being added as a means for cops to be harsher on people for their current charges based on prior history.

As Bamf said; if the APD starts to robocop too much, we'll step in and do something to change it. I'd recommend just waiting until they reveal the rest of their plans for this whole system first.

 

Nah I am not accusing you guys of that, it's just there is a major possibility that more robocopping is going to happen.  But i'll wait and see what happens, if people are getting robocopped left and right, I do think you guys would make adjustments.  I just wanted to voice my concern 

[Furnie Mack]

2 hours ago, Gnashes said:

Nope. Bamf and Paratus have a vision.

Just wait; you'll love it.

It's a fair concern for sure. If robocopping does start I'd trust the higher ups to do their jobs and make it stop or be replaced with someone who will.

[massi]

why the fuck is everyone worrying about robocopping

if somebody robocops you, just report him 

 

Good patch though, thank you

[Tusken Raider]

10 minutes ago, massi said:

why the fuck is everyone worrying about robocopping

if somebody robocops you, just report him 

 

Good patch though, thank you

Robocopping isn't against the rules figured that out with Ruvik.

[massi]

Just now, Tusken Raider said:

figured that out with Ruvik.

what do you mean by that?

 

also yes, it falls under "Fail RP" 

[bamf]

This patch should be rolling out now...

[william]

Just now, bamf said:

This patch should be rolling out now...

the only time you patch the servers is when there is massive fights

[bamf]

13 minutes ago, william said:

the only time you patch the servers is when there is massive fights

Sorry about that.  I know it's not always convenient when we patch...  We did just finish testing though, and I want this to get out before the "prime time" in the US.

[BlackShot]

17 minutes ago, bamf said:

This patch should be rolling out now...

Just to let you know, bamf, many people just got kicked in P3. Don't know if that's anything related to the new patch, actually.

Edited December 6, 2016 by BlackShot

[signal]

Just now, bamf said:

Sorry about that.  I know it's not always convenient when we patch...  We did just finish testing though, and I want this to get out before the "prime time" in the US.

The clothing role doesn't work for bounty hunters on 5

[Guest]

Just now, signal said:

The clothing role doesn't work for bounty hunters on 5

Oh yeah; I knew I was forgetting something.

(I also wasn't aware we were patching S5)

[Crossfade]

whats the point of the criminal history? once someone is ticketed or pardon'd jailed its over and done with? not too sure on how it can increase RP 

[Budbringer]

1 minute ago, CrossFade said:

whats the point of the criminal history? once someone is ticketed or pardon'd jailed its over and done with? not too sure on how it can increase RP 

Then you should work on improving your RP

[signal]

3 minutes ago, Gnashes said:

Oh yeah; I knew I was forgetting something.

(I also wasn't aware we were patching S5)

Would just be nice to not have to stockpile and being able to buy stuff there

[Rag]

4 minutes ago, Gnashes said:

Oh yeah; I knew I was forgetting something.

(I also wasn't aware we were patching S5)

So, Bounty hunters can buy clothes from the turfs now on Altis?

[Guest]

Just now, Ragnar Lodbrok™ said:

So, Bounty hunters can buy clothes from the turfs now on Altis?

If their gang owns the turf; yes.

[JIMBO]

You were kicked off the game. (BattleEye: Client not responding)

[BlackShot]

Just now, Jimbo said:

You were kicked off the game. (BattleEye: Client not responding)

Yep. It's the fourth time I get kicked after the new patch. I believe it's because the servers are close to 100/100 again (which always seems to happen when servers are full).

[₴avagє]

Am I the only one that would prefer a new GUI before more content like this? 

[massi]

7 minutes ago, ₴avagє said:

Am I the only one that would prefer a new GUI before more content like this? 

yes

[Boris]

" Anyone within a gang may access the Turf Clothing Shop and Turf Market. The Turf Market has been adjusted slightly accordingly "

So people within a gang with a bounty hunter license will be able to purchase things there?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, ₴avagє said:

Am I the only one that would prefer a new GUI before more content like this? 

I'm taking donations to invest the time in the AIDSfest that is Arma UI's.

53 minutes ago, Boris said:

" Anyone within a gang may access the Turf Clothing Shop and Turf Market. The Turf Market has been adjusted slightly accordingly "

So people within a gang with a bounty hunter license will be able to purchase things there?

"Anyone"; yes.

[Pentax]

14 hours ago, massi said:

robocopping counts as fail RP and you are subject to up to 3 points

You clearly have no idea what robocopping and fail RP is. Just because you got a full ticket, it doesn't make it FAIL RP, as long as the cop was fully within RP of the whole procedure, that means he was RP'ing, which is NOT fail rp. 

[Boris]

Just now, Gnashes said:

I'm taking donations to invest the time in the AIDSfest that is Arma UI's.

"Anyone"; yes.

And just to double verify, because i'm buying a house based on this:

Regardless of who owns the turf, I can access the vehicle garage and the clothing/market now?

[Guest]

Just now, Boris said:

And just to double verify, because i'm buying a house based on this:

Regardless of who owns the turf, I can access the vehicle garage and the clothing/market now?

Your gang must own the turf.

[massi]

13 minutes ago, Pentax said:

You clearly have no idea what robocopping and fail RP is. Just because you got a full ticket, it doesn't make it FAIL RP, as long as the cop was fully within RP of the whole procedure, that means he was RP'ing, which is NOT fail rp. 

if you RP and you get a full ticket, chances are you got robocopped

 

Edited December 6, 2016 by massi

[Budbringer]

24 minutes ago, massi said:

if you RP and you get a full ticket, chances are you got robocopped

 

Or your rp sucks!

 

[Pentax]

27 minutes ago, massi said:

if you RP and you get a full ticket, chances are you got robocopped

 

Or simply I'm tired of "my family was kidnapped and I was forced to do it", or "it was self defense". No, that's not how it works.

[bamf]

35 minutes ago, massi said:

if you RP and you get a full ticket, chances are you got robocopped

 

Not necessarily true.

7 minutes ago, Budbringer said:

Or your rp sucks!

 

^

5 minutes ago, Pentax said:

Or simply I'm tired of "my family was kidnapped and I was forced to do it", or "it was self defense". No, that's not how it works.

Come up with something outlandish.  This is a great chance for you to practice just making stuff up.  Make it somewhat believable though for the best results.  

One thing I've learned in life is that the best lies have an element of truth to them.  Try using that philosophy in game...

[₴avagє]

1 hour ago, Gnashes said:

I'm taking donations to invest the time in the AIDSfest that is Arma UI's.

"Anyone"; yes.

I've just seen much more attractive GUIs on other servers. Would be nice to see an update. Appreciate all your hard work.