Let's talk about Turfs

[Axe]

Turfs serve as a lesser cartel. They give discounts and other perks. But this is not a perfect system.

Turfs were designed to give smaller gangs something to fight over and in a CQC environment. But this is not what has been accomplished. Sure, there are gangs that focus on turfs over cartels, simply because they are easier to fight with small numbers. But the major issue is that it has turned into a real estate war; who can have the best houses. 

Currently, cartels have housing disabled within a set radius, to prevent housing being abused. I'd like to see the same things done to turfs that are red. If not every house in the radius, then at least the ones which have direct sight of the flag. Because currently it's just who can sit in a locked house for 15 minutes. 9/10 times I've been to a turf, I've been shot from a house. Maybe even put the flags in a building or some sort of cover so you are not able to be shot from houses which load no crates, 

Also. Buff Zaros, theres a reason the turf that is not sought after very much. It's perks are not near as good as the others. 

And remove the shading from the zones, it's fucking ugly. Change it to an outline like red zones. 

[Legit]

1 minute ago, Axe said:

Maybe even put the flags in a building or some sort of cover so you are not able to be shot from houses which load no crates, 

 

Disabling housing from turfs will anger a lot of people. I could see that working if there was a 5 minute heads up before the turf popped to allow people to spawn in their house and gear.

I like this idea, getting the flag out of the open. The main problem is people using houses to zerg the flag with multiple loadouts. Maybe just put a 2-5 minute cooldown on spawning at a specific location again. 

 

[Axe]

Just now, Legit said:

Disabling housing from turfs will anger a lot of people. I could see that working if there was a 5 minute heads up before the turf popped to allow people to spawn in their house and gear.

I like this idea, getting the flag out of the open. The main problem is people using houses to zerg the flag with multiple loadouts. Maybe just put a 2-5 minute cooldown on spawning at a specific location again. 

 

I mean, I guess, allow people to gear, but the house needs to be unlocked and crates removed when turf goes red, because I'm sick of these low tiers sitting in locked houses with rooks. 

[Legit]

Just now, Axe said:

I mean, I guess, allow people to gear, but the house needs to be unlocked and crates removed when turf goes red, because I'm sick of these low tiers sitting in locked houses with rooks. 

I think it's fair if you have a house there to be able to gear up at least once, but the house camping and zerg rushing is getting really annoying. In all honesty a cooldown on spawning at a house should have been added a long time ago.  @Gnashes

You know exactly why. @Monkeysz

[FudgeR]

Great idea but i'd go with the flag covered or something and only like a 2 min cooldown or something like that

[FudgeR]

And yesss buff zaros

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One New Enemy will have a problem with this on Server 2...

[Axe]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Fudger said:

Great idea but i'd go with the flag covered or something and only like a 2 min cooldown or something like that

The problem with putting the flags in bunkers or houses, is that people will just shove cars in the entrances and then it's even worse IMO. 

[sah]

1 hour ago, Axe said:

 

And remove the shading from the zones, it's fucking ugly. Change it to an outline like red zones. 

Press Y - settings - page two and you can turn down the shading yourself. You can't remove it, but you can turn it down.

[Crossfade]

id like to see a timer set on houses in rdm zones. or within 500m.... maybe 3-5mins per death?

[Haych]

The logic was stupid when they made housing disabled for cartels and not for Turfs. Turf housing if much more valuable than Cartel housing will ever be. 

Turfs do need a rework. Currently its not a fight over the flag, its a fight for the best house. 

[Brendon Smith]

Leave them as is just add cover around flags or re-locate flags

[Churu]

22 minutes ago, Brendon Smith said:

Leave them as is just add cover around flags or re-locate flags

disable housing after 5 min or so, otherwise people will just constantly come back with rooks until you die becuase they hit you atleast once.

[Brendon Smith]

Just now, Churu said:

disable housing after 5 min or so, otherwise people will just constantly come back with rooks until you die becuase they hit you atleast once.

Thats why I have a Dp14 house and I can go back from sofia

[Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz]

I like the idea of disabling houses for turfs when they are red, this should have been done from the start. 

[Roice]

@Axe I love you. Thank you for starting this discussion. I've been talking about making a topic about this for the past few weeks. I can't express how much I support this. +1

 

[Jwilly]

Its called get better. I used to rat rodo everytime it went up and our gang literally had the BEST rodo houses on s1 and we would still lose to prime or elysium plenty of times because they were just better than us. Now i dont even have a good rodo house on s3 but one person from void is enough to go 1v5 pistol bangers and cap rodo, so what house u have doesnt really matter, just dont get killed and have knowledge of the turf, because if you find the other people's turf house just shoot the crates out everytime you pull into the turf.

Edited January 2, 2017 by jwilly

[Alex Hardy]

Rodo is life

[Pizdiet]

i like your idea Axe.

Please rework turfs and move the flag location or disable houses when turfs are available to capture.

[RoleyPoleyBoley]

8 hours ago, Maric said:

One New Enemy will have a problem with this on Server 2...

No problem at all. We would still go for turfs as much as we have before

[Axe]

4 hours ago, jwilly said:

Its called get better. I used to rat rodo everytime it went up and our gang literally had the BEST rodo houses on s1 and we would still lose to prime or elysium plenty of times because they were just better than us. Now i dont even have a good rodo house on s3 but one person from void is enough to go 1v5 pistol bangers and cap rodo, so what house u have doesnt really matter, just dont get killed and have knowledge of the turf, because if you find the other people's turf house just shoot the crates out everytime you pull into the turf.

Honestly the worst excuse I've ever heard. I suppose you want me to stare at the map screen as well to ensure they don't relog?  

[william]

lol i cant remember the last time i fought a turf

[.Sean]

On 1/2/2017 at 5:26 AM, Axe said:

Turfs serve as a lesser cartel. They give discounts and other perks. But this is not a perfect system.

Turfs were designed to give smaller gangs something to fight over and in a CQC environment. But this is not what has been accomplished. Sure, there are gangs that focus on turfs over cartels, simply because they are easier to fight with small numbers. But the major issue is that it has turned into a real estate war; who can have the best houses. 

Currently, cartels have housing disabled within a set radius, to prevent housing being abused. I'd like to see the same things done to turfs that are red. If not every house in the radius, then at least the ones which have direct sight of the flag. Because currently it's just who can sit in a locked house for 15 minutes. 9/10 times I've been to a turf, I've been shot from a house. Maybe even put the flags in a building or some sort of cover so you are not able to be shot from houses which load no crates, 

Also. Buff Zaros, theres a reason the turf that is not sought after very much. It's perks are not near as good as the others. 

And remove the shading from the zones, it's fucking ugly. Change it to an outline like red zones. 

If only your aim in csgo was as good as this suggestion  

[Axe]

6 hours ago, Sean. said:

If only your aim in csgo was as good as this suggestion  

200 ping. Still won  

[Moshutv5]

On 1/2/2017 at 7:55 PM, Pizdiet said:

i like your idea Axe.

Please rework turfs and move the flag location or disable houses when turfs are available to capture.

Why to disable houses, that makes no sense.

[Pizdiet]

Just now, Moshutv5 said:

Why to disable houses, that makes no sense.

 this was a suggestion by Axe  try to ask him about some sense not me  

[Moshutv5]

Just now, Pizdiet said:

 this was a suggestion by Axe  try to ask him about some sense not me  

This server don't have a new life rule so when this will be implementet, probably house spawns on turfs will be disabled.

[Bandit]

How about you guys stop complaining? It's super easy to counter, just keep buying Suicide Vests and destroy all nearby houses each time the server restarts

[Axe]

22 minutes ago, Bandit said:

How about you guys stop complaining? It's super easy to counter, just keep buying Suicide Vests and destroy all nearby houses each time the server restarts

Once again another absurd suggestion from someone who probably has one of these houses.

This is not what turfs were designed to be. They were designed to be CQC cartels, not housing wars. There is no housing for cartels which makes the cartel stupidly broken. Why disable the crates in cartel houses and not turf houses? What's the difference. 

If the intent was to allow smaller gangs/randos to cap turfs, how are you going to do that when you can't shoot through a house with your Katiba?

IMO cartel houses should have been left alone with the exception of a few choice houses. 

[HotWings]

I dont think you should be able to spawn at/lock a house when the turf is red.  

Edited January 10, 2017 by HotWings

[massi]

Zaros is so close to Kavala rebel, I think it's fine as is

Edited January 11, 2017 by massi

[Bandit]

16 hours ago, Axe said:

Once again another absurd suggestion from someone who probably has one of these houses.

This is not what turfs were designed to be. They were designed to be CQC cartels, not housing wars. There is no housing for cartels which makes the cartel stupidly broken. Why disable the crates in cartel houses and not turf houses? What's the difference. 

If the intent was to allow smaller gangs/randos to cap turfs, how are you going to do that when you can't shoot through a house with your Katiba?

IMO cartel houses should have been left alone with the exception of a few choice houses. 

I agree with almost everything you said, and my statement was a joke, making fun of the fact there there is almost no way to beat people in houses without resorting to extreme measures.

[George Lopaz]

16 hours ago, massi said:

Zaros is so close to Athira rebel

[massi]

1 hour ago, George Lopaz said:

LOL mb I meant kavala rebel

[Axe]

Bump for next patch pls bby Gnashes

[reid]

Cover the flag, if 1 person would be able to cap and not get shot from a building it would be easy for them to have 1 or 2 teammates look out for them

As well as don't be stupid and execute people who have a house in turf.

[LastKiller]

this shit again?this topic is old.just stop bitching draw people out of their camping spots use cars to block the flag and better tactics.stop crying and adapt.so many ways to take care of campers but all you do is complain good job people!

it would be better if they would make asylum exchange return

Edited April 20, 2017 by LastKiller

[Sheriff Rick Grimes]

+1 on removing the ability to hold up in houses when turf is red.  I'd love to see a buff for Zaros as well, it's a very useless perk.  

[HotWings]

1 hour ago, LastKiller said:

this shit again?this topic is old.just stop bitching draw people out of their camping spots use cars to block the flag and better tactics.stop crying and adapt.so many ways to take care of campers but all you do is complain good job people!

it would be better if they would make asylum exchange return

Whats does AE have to do with spawning at a red turf?

[LastKiller]

Just now, HotWings said:

Whats does AE have to do with spawning at a red turf?

giving an idea on what they should do instead of listening to some people that can't find an easy way to get rid of a camper from the thousand ones available?