Dork Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Not starting a flame war just trying to understand it better. When i use to play cop and lethals were authorized, cops would take out 3-4 people and go back to tracer's (Now this is after a person is revived and lethal'd again.) As of late, say cops see a big group (8-12) of rebels, and lethals get authorized, why do they kill 90% of rebels before going back to tracers? Wouldn't you rather down restrain and process. Rebels favor being lethal's because no jail time, but cops should strive to down more after a couple kills so that they can make rebels incompetent to coming back to fights. Dont hate ^Connor_K likes this Link to comment
massi Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 P4 this is for you Crunchedd and Akeelagi like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Often happens because they're not sure how many are down already or the rebels are still in a position they can't easily be restrained. Even one guy in a tower for example can prevent his buddies being restrained, so sometimes you just keep lethaling. It all depends on the situation.. Now i got a question for you, how is being lethaled as a civ bad? I never mind being cleaned of my bounty and not having to sit in jail. BlackShot, WilliamS and Silver-Spy like this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Midamaru said: Often happens because they're not sure how many are down already or the rebels are still in a position they can't easily be restrained. Even one guy in a tower for example can prevent his buddies being restrained, so sometimes you just keep lethaling. It all depends on the situation.. Now i got a question for you, how is being lethaled as a civ bad? I never mind being cleaned of my bounty and not having to sit in jail. big bounties represent the length of your e-peen Dork, ImProd and Kawaii like this Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I remember the days why people where terrified to use lethals, even the Lt's. Rodrigo, Kawaii and Atmosphere like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Eazy said: big bounties represent the length of your e-peen I'd like to think i'm quite a rebel myself too sometimes, but i never cared about how big my bounty was. I do find it fun though when i'm wanted for like 500k and turn myself in with the most obsecure things like a suicide vest driving a .50 call and not using it offensively xD Just blows the minds of those cops! they took the name eazy likes this Link to comment
Churu Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Dude honestly why complain? u got a 100k bounty and its hard to catch u while u sit on atm sniping down at hq along with 6-7 other rebels. Get lethald? nah its like a free pardon plus cops get paid, you're going to get revived anyways, Get caught and you will spend 45 min of your life in jail instead of buying a rook and getting sweet juicy revenge on the cop who shot you. Vhantom likes this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I like to go lethals in big cop vs rebel fights, mostly the rebels won't even bother to RP or straight up just rant about just anything. Saves both sides alot of shit Link to comment
Dork Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Churu said: Dude honestly why complain? u got a 100k bounty and its hard to catch u while u sit on atm sniping down at hq along with 6-7 other rebels. Get lethald? nah its like a free pardon plus cops get paid, you're going to get revived anyways, Get caught and you will spend 45 min of your life in jail instead of buying a rook and getting sweet juicy revenge on the cop who shot you. who goes back to a fight with a rook? @Sean. Hit this guy with a hello? real quick Link to comment
Dork Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Midamaru said: I like to go lethals in big cop vs rebel fights, mostly the rebels won't even bother to RP or straight up just rant about just anything. Saves both sides alot of shit i still RP Link to comment
SirSwish Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Midamaru said: I like to go lethals in big cop vs rebel fights, mostly the rebels won't even bother to RP or straight up just rant about just anything. Saves both sides alot of shit Most cops don't rp Link to comment
Midamaru Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Dork said: i still RP Well most.. Just now, SirSwish said: Most cops don't rp True aswell, but i do! Dork likes this Link to comment
.Sean Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Churu said: buying a rook ? Link to comment
.Sean Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 this is true though, RP is suppose to happen but usually doesnt so cops assume the obvious and just authorize lethals Link to comment
JIMBO Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) DJ Khaled once told me and @Eli that lethals are a major key, since then I have only carried lethal ammunition off topic but sort of relevant: Imagine attacking the bank/fed with the average day cops (usually not the best of players, most of them don't play for the big fights), even if you do manage to win all you're going to hear is constant whining, lethal the rebels doing it? Complain, down all the guys doing it? Complain Cop used to be so much fun, but the cop vs rebel activities get repetitive and when the prison doesn't even work, that leaves only the bank and the fed for rebels. The bank is stupidly boring, the update only added more cover for rebels, you can't add big buildings like the construction and expect rebels not to utilitze it.. The fed is fun but the cops do not stand a chance at winning unless there is a lot of higher ups online. I prefer to get lethaled, either way if cops lethal/down the receiving end will complain and cry.. Go back 3 months and you'd see so many rebels sitting in the asylum ts waiting to see cops move to the bank/fed/pb channels, I jumped at the chance to go fight on cop, shit was so fun, do you see anyone doing this now? Do you see anyone fighting cops that much anymore? Edited January 16, 2017 by Jimbo Jwilly likes this Link to comment
Cynica Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I have never been on scene where lethals where used 100% of the engagement. We usually lethal enough to make the engagement down to a manageable level and then proceed with downing rounds. I feel there is some information not being disclosed here. Edited January 16, 2017 by Cynica Sandwich likes this Link to comment
Rodrigo Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 As stated before, lethal everything they took the name eazy, Revenant, explicit and 4 others like this Link to comment
Atmosphere Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, Cynica said: I have never been on scene where lethals where used 100% of the engagement. Oh yeah you're everywhere all the time right? Link to comment
... Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I'm not a cop, but I believe that lethals are used to make situations manageable (make the odds favorable for your side). If it's a 6 rebels vs.4cops, lethaling 3 rebels make the situation so that cops have a chance to win and arrest a few from the opposing party. What is the fun of cop if you don't have the opportunity to arrest some people from a firefight? Link to comment
Gatorade Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Lets Eliminate The Horde-Of AssHoles Lethally Lethal Professor Pericles likes this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 59 minutes ago, Jimbo said: The fed is fun but the cops do not stand a chance at winning unless there is a lot of higher ups online. Man i recently did a fed and there were some higher ups online that normally doesn't matter either. But damn our new captain Mr. @DarkKnight fucking quick peaked me as i was shooting out a hunter. A cop... quick peaking?! They're evolving man.. i'm telling you, shit's about to go down they took the name eazy, DarkKnight, Skittles and 1 other like this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Midamaru said: Man i recently did a fed and there were some higher ups online that normally doesn't matter either. But damn our new captain Mr. @DarkKnight fucking quick peaked me as i was shooting out a hunter. A cop... quick peaking?! They're evolving man.. i'm telling you, shit's about to go down Yeah man i heard cops recently found out about the combat stance feature FudgeR and Jwilly like this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, massi said: P4 this is for you P2 Link to comment
Mike Stmria Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 When I was a Sgt I used to never go on lethals just to force the rebels to RP or of they wanted just to fight cops instead of fighting other rebels, and lose their gear, well they can sit in Jail for the 45 mins Heidelberg likes this Link to comment
DarkKnight Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 13 hours ago, Midamaru said: Man i recently did a fed and there were some higher ups online that normally doesn't matter either. But damn our new captain Mr. @DarkKnight fucking quick peaked me as i was shooting out a hunter. A cop... quick peaking?! They're evolving man.. i'm telling you, shit's about to go down We sent that Hunter in to bait you. I knew you couldn't resist. If I remember correctly you were the only rebel at west gate and we wanted to start pushing in. And yes I know how to quick peak. You just never noticed before because I was always on P3. Now that I'm Captain I play on all the servers so you will see me around more often. When it comes down to it the APD should never lethal an entire group of rebels. Once the APD starts to gain control over a situation they SHOULD go back to downing. It can be difficult to determine when to go back to downing when fighting big rebel groups at the Bank, Fed or prison. Most rebel groups are on point with revives. So when we assess the situation we can't say there are 10 rebels so we will lethal 3 or 4 and go back to downing. Since the rebels we killed will be back up in no time at all. Also there isn't much we can do with the rebels on top of the bank roof. There have been plenty of times where the APD has downed everyone on the bank roof but when your fighting good rebel players it can be almost impossible. These days you just have to use your best judgement as these situations happen. So there is room for error when inexperienced cops are making these decisions. If your in a big rebel group and you feel the cops are killing to many of you it's probably because you are smashing them down to a pulp and there is nothing else they can do. Lets be real here some fights are over before they even start lol. One thing I do agree with is that cops need to learn how to surrender more often. There is no need to re spawn 4+ times to win a fight. Yung Tommy, Matthew, Atmosphere and 5 others like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, DarkKnight said: We sent that Hunter in to bait you. I knew you couldn't resist. If I remember correctly you were the only rebel at west gate and we wanted to start pushing in. And yes i know how to quick peak. You just never noticed before because I was always on P3. Now that I'm Captain I play on all the servers so you will see me around more often. When it comes down to it the APD should never lethal an entire group of rebels. Once the APD starts to gain control over a situation they SHOULD go back to downing. It can be difficult to determine when to go back to downing when fighting big rebel groups at the Bank, Fed or prison. Most rebel groups are on point with revives. So when we assess the situation we can't say there are 10 rebels so we will lethal 3 or 4 and go back to downing. Since the rebels we killed will be back up in no time at all. Also there isn't much we can do with the rebels on top of the bank roof. There have been plenty of times where the APD has downed everyone on the bank roof but when your fighting good rebel players it can be almost impossible to do, These days you just have to use your best judgement as these situations happen. So there is room for error when inexperienced cops are making these decisions. If your in a big rebel group and you feel the cops are killing to many of you it's probably because you are smashing them down to a pulp and there is nothing else they can do. Lets be real here some fights are over before they even start lol. One thing I do agree with is that cops need to learn how to surrender more often. There is no need to re spawn 4+ times to win a fight. Yeah that was me.. didn't expect to get one tapped. Won't happen again >:O And its good to finally see a captain actively play with the other cops Means alot! Mike Stmria, Flameless, Sandwich and 1 other like this Link to comment
Dork Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 hours ago, DarkKnight said: One thing I do agree with is that cops need to learn how to surrender more often. There is no need to re spawn 4+ times to win a fight. make it fucking happen please. Link to comment
The Monopoly Man Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 On P4, tracers have to be authorized Boris, Jonassm, Cynica and 6 others like this Link to comment
ImProd Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 19 hours ago, Eazy said: big bounties represent the length of your e-peen i hav a smol peen Link to comment
Reformed epTic Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, Dork said: who goes back to a fight with a rook? @Sean. Hit this guy with a hello? real quick funny i still have a video of you coming back to a prison break 15 times after being lethaled with a rook and shooting us in the back so apparently you Edited January 17, 2017 by the end Link to comment
ImProd Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 19 hours ago, Dork said: who goes back to a fight with a rook? @Sean. Hit this guy with a hello? real quick I pulled out a PM9 and was about to go nuts until these 2 DS members caught me and sent me on another boat trip. (I'm not living that down lol, I'm a target now) Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 2:52 PM, massi said: P4 this is for you LOL free advertisment On 1/16/2017 at 3:48 PM, Rodrigo said: As stated before, lethal everything LOL, I just lethal unreachable or roof at Bank (when authorized) On 1/16/2017 at 11:35 PM, The Monopoly Man said: On P4, tracers have to be authorized Yeah, yeah Link to comment
Rodrigo Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: LOL, I just lethal unreachable or roof at Bank (when authorized) Same Bear 2.0 likes this Link to comment
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