Carson Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) This was brought up in a thread by @TheRealLethal so credit to him. I think it would be awesome if it is even possible nowadays to add a server pre-governor patch. I am not quite sure how viable it would be at all but I think it would be really interesting to actually see what the community would think about it. Also if it is viable I think a large majority of the community would fine even with a donation goal I think we just want to love and play Asylum again, we might talk shit about it but this is our home and we love it. Like I said I don't even know if this is possible what so ever but I'd like to see if the community would be interested in this and see what the developers think. We all just want Asylum to be an awesome full and thriving community once again so please just hear me out on this one thing. EDIT: It doesn't seem like it's possible, we tried boys. Also for convenience sake here is what Gnashes said: Edited August 31, 2017 by Carson Spek, Budbringer, Azeh and 21 others like this Link to comment
Smarty Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Carson said: This was brought up into a thread by @TheRealLethal so credit to him. I think it would be awesome if it is even possible nowadays to add a server pre-governor patch. I am not quite sure how viable it would be at all but I think it would be really interesting to actually see what the community would think about it. Also if it is viable I think a large majority of the community would fine even with a donation goal I think we just want to love and play Asylum again, we might talk shit about it but this is our home and we love it. Like I said I don't even know if this is possible what so ever but I'd like to see if the community would be interested in this and see what the developers think. We all just want Asylum to be an awesome full and thriving community once again so please just hear me out on this one thing. +1 Link to comment
explicit Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just use the fifth server to host this - all it's been used for in the past is hosting garbage that has no player-base and gets taken down within a few months (Tanoa, Strife, etc.). At least we can pretty much guarantee that this would have dedicated players. Carson, Steve, Space and 2 others like this Link to comment
JaeJae Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 +1 Wasn't around during the golden age, Would be nice! Glass of Water likes this Link to comment
Glass of Water Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 tbh lets make servers 1-3 legacy and 4-5 8.0 Link to comment
... Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 I've heard they are never opening a fifth server ever again. That means S4 would be on the chopping block for this to work. Google™ likes this Link to comment
Carson Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: It wouldn't be possible. Database structure / server files have been completely changed since then and I'm pretty sure we don't have backups from that far away ago. Alright pretty unfortunate, thanks for the info tho Gnashes. Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Or they could just make changes that lots and lots of people have been wanting for a while now. But that requires listening to the community Edited August 31, 2017 by Sheriff Rick Grimes OMG-A-FISH, Carson and Space like this Link to comment
hamsham12 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 39 minutes ago, Carson said: This was brought up into a thread by @TheRealLethal so credit to him. I think it would be awesome if it is even possible nowadays to add a server pre-governor patch. I am not quite sure how viable it would be at all but I think it would be really interesting to actually see what the community would think about it. Also if it is viable I think a large majority of the community would fine even with a donation goal I think we just want to love and play Asylum again, we might talk shit about it but this is our home and we love it. Like I said I don't even know if this is possible what so ever but I'd like to see if the community would be interested in this and see what the developers think. We all just want Asylum to be an awesome full and thriving community once again so please just hear me out on this one thing. EDIT: It doesn't seem like it's possible, we tried boys. Also for convenience sake here is what Gnashes said: You think you do, but you don't. Carson, Space, Sheriff Rick Grimes and 1 other like this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, hamsham12 said: You think you do, but you don't. That reference now applies to Asylum so much lmfao Carson likes this Link to comment
Xehons Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 28 minutes ago, Gnashes said: It wouldn't be possible. Database structure / server files have been completely changed since then and I'm pretty sure we don't have backups from that far away ago. CAN YOU FIX MY BANK ALREADY ? Link to comment
Casey Jones Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Carson said: This was brought up into a thread by @TheRealLethal so credit to him. I think it would be awesome if it is even possible nowadays to add a server pre-governor patch. I am not quite sure how viable it would be at all but I think it would be really interesting to actually see what the community would think about it. Also if it is viable I think a large majority of the community would fine even with a donation goal I think we just want to love and play Asylum again, we might talk shit about it but this is our home and we love it. Like I said I don't even know if this is possible what so ever but I'd like to see if the community would be interested in this and see what the developers think. We all just want Asylum to be an awesome full and thriving community once again so please just hear me out on this one thing. EDIT: It doesn't seem like it's possible, we tried boys. Also for convenience sake here is what Gnashes said: naw scrap this idea, Stratis pre 6.0 is the better idea Link to comment
Gatorade Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 +1 Thor... likes this Link to comment
Treeherder Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Since this mode would just be for fighting why is a database and saving even important? BioHazard likes this Link to comment
Scott Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, explicit said: Just use the fifth server to host this - all it's been used for in the past is hosting garbage that has no player-base and gets taken down within a few months (Tanoa, Strife, etc.). At least we can pretty much guarantee that this would have dedicated players. The only issue is that 95% of players would only want to play on that server. Steve and Krypton:) like this Link to comment
Krypton:) Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, Scott said: The only issue is that 95% of players would only want to play on that server. Says something doesnt it Azeh, BioHazard, Scott and 2 others like this Link to comment
JAY1HP Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 hours ago, Gnashes said: It wouldn't be possible. Database structure / server files have been completely changed since then and I'm pretty sure we don't have backups from that far away ago. It is absolutely possible...If it was something you came up with and wanted to do it would be done already...Rebuild the mission files and change certain things god forbid to make Asylum how the community wants it Krypton:) likes this Link to comment
BioHazard Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, JAY1HP said: It is absolutely possible...If it was something you came up with and wanted to do it would be done already...Rebuild the mission files and change certain things god forbid to make Asylum how the community wants it ^^^^^^^ Link to comment
Krypton:) Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 28 minutes ago, Rappy said: I'm sure it's possible, with some careful looking you can found the scripts of all the servers you have ever played in date ascending order. Basically, whenever you join a server it says "Downloading mission cache" or whatever right? Well that goes into a folder found in %AppData%. They're all there, including the ones from the old Asylum, I even found the Stratis Life (#FreeStratis) from years ago. With permission to use these scripts from the asylum devs we could in theory make our own asylum server that was pre 6.0.0. However since they are very old they will only work with whatever framework asylum uses, Altis Life 3.0 for example (not sure if they use Altis Life framework or custom). The server would be a fresh wipe as player data is serverside, but I'm sure it's possible Doesn't mean they backed the database/files up for certain things. If what you're saying was the solution then I could take the file and reopen the old Asylum...but it doesn't just work that way Link to comment
Krypton:) Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Rappy said: It does, my mate opened the map and all the scripts it's just the same as the old asylum. I could make a server that hosts the old asylum in just a few hours if I wanted to, but I don't have permission as of current. Doubt I will tbh Ummm....what about ALL the server side scripts and what not? I guarantee something won't work but maybe I'm wrong. It's been tried before Link to comment
Bikstok Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rappy said: That's the issue, we can make it work with a bit of editing to it though I'm sure. Also, for what it's worth, the China gang stole all of asylums scripts and it works perfectly. The main obstacle would be making the old Asylum work with the current arma, or you could just take the current asylum and edit it so that all the changes are reverted back to pre 6.0 Here's a personal conspiracy theory of mine. Perhaps Paratus sold the life files (database schema included) to the Chinese server administrator. Even with the server scripts, which may or may not have been leaked, you would have to build a database that matches almost 100%. That includes a ton of really tedious work and a lot of guessing of data types. In addition, there's several stored procedures in the database, which functionality you would have to invent based on very little information. It would make a lot of sense for him to sell the files. The Chinese were a plague on the servers. They barely spoke any English and always got banned for various exploits while easily ban evading. Why not get rid of 95% of them while making a bit of easy money? Besides, the server files would be outdated in a couple of months anyway. Of course anyne who knows about this (probably just Paratus), will deny it. Wouldn't want people to contact the Chinese asking to buy their setup and perhaps create a competitor to Asylum. Edited August 31, 2017 by Bikstok Budbringer, Noble and Sheriff Rick Grimes like this Link to comment
Smee Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Well i think we all got to the stage where its pretty much spread thin and nobody is really bothered now all im going to keep saying is revert things back to the way it use to be to try make asylum a little popular No group cap No rotor lib on tarus ( add back the bench ) Revert changes from drug running ( Fixed locations ) Revert changes with cartel money ( Straight into bank account or make it after 100k it will then go into account ) Link to comment
Krypton:) Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Rappy said: That's the issue, we can make it work with a bit of editing to it though I'm sure. Also, for what it's worth, the China gang stole all of asylums scripts and it works perfectly. The main obstacle would be making the old Asylum work with the current arma, or you could just take the current asylum and edit it so that all the changes are reverted back to pre 6.0 True I forgot about the Chinese, but not sure how much database reworking or anything they had to do Link to comment
Krypton:) Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Smee said: Well i think we all got to the stage where its pretty much spread thin and nobody is really bothered now all im going to keep saying is revert things back to the way it use to be to try make asylum a little popular No group cap No rotor lib on tarus ( add back the bench ) Revert changes from drug running ( Fixed locations ) Revert changes with cartel money ( Straight into bank account or make it after 100k it will then go into account ) We've been saying this for years why don't they realize they could literally do very little work for the next update, just revert everything we want and people will come back TheRealLethal likes this Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) well i missed all the fucking fun i know im late as shit, but isnt it possible to just take the current database structure and server files and just hit backspace on some of the autism that has been implemented (group cap, cartels not autopaying, feds, prisons, rotor scripts) you guys spend hours coming up with new shit, it cant be that hard to just try to recreate the old. just give me the original cartel system, no group cap, Pyrgos prison with the big fucking towers, only give cops 6.5. and i promise you have a full server 24/7 @Gnashes Edited August 31, 2017 by TheRealLethal Carson and Azeh like this Link to comment
Witz Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, TheRealLethal said: well i missed all the fucking fun i know im late as shit, but isnt it possible to just take the current database structure and server files and just hit backspace on some of the autism that has been implemented (group cap, cartels not autopaying, feds, prisons, rotor scripts) you guys spend hours coming up with new shit, it cant be that hard to just try to recreate the old. just give me the original cartel system, no group cap, Pyrgos prison with the big fucking towers, only give cops 6.5. and i promise you have a full server 24/7 @Gnashes Do you expect that they will do that after so much work? Some things can be done doh Link to comment
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