Cartel Locations

[Vanilla Coke]

2 hours ago, Killswitch said:

@bamf

I believe this was forgotten

my potato is a turtle, and it ate my cats nan. +1

[Smee]

 

On 6/2/2016 at 11:07 PM, Killswitch said:

@bamf

I believe this was forgotten

Half a year later, Just got me thinking why this thread still Pinned  

[C0NN0R]

3 hours ago, Smee said:

 

Half a year later, Just got me thinking why this thread still Pinned  

 

[Killswitch]

Priorities I guess

[Huan Lee]

I think the lighthouse looking off into oil cartel would be a wonderfully wonderful wongs like arms dealer. Like the bank it has a light house, Like arms it has a 70k, and it has some nice spots to offend and defend it from. Of course you will have to deal with the 4 people that own it on every server, but give them something nice in compensation  

[Haych]

Its been nearly 7 months since a handful of Locations where suggested and non of them was added/trialed. Instead we got a house cap in the middle of the forest that no one touched. Heres some locations that can possibly be made into fun fighting spots with some slight modifications in the Editor.

 

[bamf]

OK, let's talk about cartel locations.  I'm looking at this right now in fact:  

For Arms, I'm thinking of adding back the house location (or something similar).  Which spot would be more preferable:  

or

Also, what about something in this area for Arms?  The OG Arms is at the top of the picture, so this makes this South of there in Eginio:  

It's not the typical fight, but it is a location that is defensible - but overall the attacking force has a somewhat upper hand due to the elevations.  Just a thought for something different.  

As for drug cartel spots.  Has anyone ever given consideration to fighting here:  

That's a spot that I think has a lot of potential.  It takes vehicles out of the equation, and would necessitate moving through the forest to the capture location.  You can still land a helicopter in 1-2 spots, or do water drops at the edges to move in...

Other spots from the thread I like (but are somewhat out of the way currently) are:  

Let's settle on what the community wants to try and see if we can get a few locations in this week's patch.

[Tiger]

6 minutes ago, bamf said:

OK, let's talk about cartel locations.  I'm looking at this right now in fact:  

For Arms, I'm thinking of adding back the house location (or something similar).  Which spot would be more preferable:  

 

or

Also, what about something in this area for Arms?  The OG Arms is at the top of the picture, so this makes this South of there in Eginio:  

 

Let's settle on what the community wants to try and see if we can get a few locations in this week's patch.

I like the sfaka area and the one below south windmills 

 

I think it would be some fun fights. Should have it on a test week though

Edited August 11, 2016 by Tiger

[JIMBO]

7 minutes ago, bamf said:

OK, let's talk about cartel locations.  I'm looking at this right now in fact:  

For Arms, I'm thinking of adding back the house location (or something similar).  Which spot would be more preferable:  

or

Also, what about something in this area for Arms?  The OG Arms is at the top of the picture, so this makes this South of there in Eginio:  

It's not the typical fight, but it is a location that is defensible - but overall the attacking force has a somewhat upper hand due to the elevations.  Just a thought for something different.  

As for drug cartel spots.  Has anyone ever given consideration to fighting here:  

That's a spot that I think has a lot of potential.  It takes vehicles out of the equation, and would necessitate moving through the forest to the capture location.  You can still land a helicopter in 1-2 spots, or do water drops at the edges to move in...

Other spots from the thread I like (but are somewhat out of the way currently) are:  

Let's settle on what the community wants to try and see if we can get a few locations in this week's patch.

A few good spots there, house cap probably being the most preferable for most people but there are some good potential caps in there, maybe add a few into rotation for a trial period and see how it goes.

 

as for the island, I have fought there many times on past servers, never liked it once.

[Feenix]

There is a tower just across from herione cartel . Since you moved  oil processing it would be the best for drug. Will provide a ss later.

Edited August 11, 2016 by Feenix

[VeNiiM]

What about the military outpost by sofia? currently ghost is the only one on that side of the map. Also the old one that you guys took out on the top left side of the map.

Edited August 11, 2016 by VeNiiM

[bamf]

4 minutes ago, Feenix said:

There is a tower just across from herione cartel . Since you moved  oil processing it would be the best for drug. Will provide a ss later.

I know the one you're talking about.  Don't we want to move away from large military towers though?  

[JIMBO]

2 minutes ago, bamf said:

I know the one you're talking about.  Don't we want to move away from large military towers though?  

meh, adds an objective, something to take control of, but the area he is on about is pretty aids imo, was a rebel outpost on my previous server, tower sees everything 

[Corgi]

Maybe try to find some new locations between cocaine castle and Wongs, not like the last one we had in that area, that area is kind of barren in regards to content.

[VeNiiM]

7 minutes ago, Tom said:

Here is a nice new spot of wongs or drug cartel maybe? It is pretty even both sides,

This looks like it would be a pretty cool spot to fight at

[Corgi]

8 minutes ago, Tom said:

Here is a nice new spot of wongs or drug cartel maybe? It is pretty even both sides,

Looks like a good place to fight besides the large number of houses, might result in people locking themselves in houses ect. w/o tweaking.

[Shameless]

12 minutes ago, Tom said:

Here is a nice new spot of wongs or drug cartel maybe? It is pretty even both sides,

Or add any of this spots for drug / wongs / arms.

+1 to all of them! 

[JIMBO]

Found a great spot for arms dealer

It's located east of OG arms

[JIMBO]

With how easy the editor is to use now @bamfit'd be pretty easy to find a balanced spot and add to it, add deer stands/pillboxes etc

[Shameless]

6 minutes ago, Jimbo! said:

Found a great spot for arms dealer

It's located east of OG arms

@Feenix where you sniped storm from 1.1k away  

[Tye]

On 8/11/2016 at 0:49 PM, Jimbo! said:

Found a great spot for arms dealer

It's located east of OG arms

East arms was a lot fun.

[Vanilla Coke]

On 8/11/2016 at 0:19 PM, bamf said:

I know the one you're talking about.  Don't we want to move away from large military towers though?  

I think big towers are the shit. Add East Arms back, I think we should give some of the new gangs a chance to feel what it's like to fight it.

I messed with this in Editor, was pretty cool.

[JIMBO]

Honestly @bamf, after looking around Sfaka, it's actually a really balanced place to fight, the surrounding walls are not penetrable, has 3 solid buildings for cover, 1 metal shed, plenty of rocks, people will disagree because of the windmills above it, but they don't actually see too much without exposing themselves quite the bit, only downside is the 120k being owned on most if not all servers, can be pushed without an ifrit too from most sides.

[bamf]

On August 19, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Jimbo! said:

Honestly @bamf, after looking around Sfaka, it's actually a really balanced place to fight, the surrounding walls are not penetrable, has 3 solid buildings for cover, 1 metal shed, plenty of rocks, people will disagree because of the windmills above it, but they don't actually see too much without exposing themselves quite the bit, only downside is the 120k being owned on most if not all servers, can be pushed without an ifrit too from most sides.

Again, that's what the changes this week were meant to allow - places like Sfaka. Maybe I'll slip that one in now that the housing fix near cartels is in place. 

While we are at it, what distances seem right to everyone in terms of spawning and crates from an active cartel location?

[JIMBO]

Just now, bamf said:

Again, that's what the changes this week were meant to allow - places like Sfaka. Maybe I'll slip that one in now that the housing fix near cartels is in place. 

While we are at it, what distances seem right to everyone in terms of spawning and crates from an active cartel location?

600m is still quite the run, 400 and under I deem unfair, houses this close cost a lot of money, don't make the crates despawn, make it so you cannot spawn there, so the house you rightfully paid for is not rendered absolutely useless.

[bamf]

35 minutes ago, Jimbo! said:

600m is still quite the run, 400 and under I deem unfair, houses this close cost a lot of money, don't make the crates despawn, make it so you cannot spawn there, so the house you rightfully paid for is not rendered absolutely useless.

You realize it's only "useless" while the flag is in specific spots right?  We can probably tweak it to something like:

1. Spawning - 5/600m
2. Crates - 400m
3. House locking 400m

[JIMBO]

1 minute ago, bamf said:

       We can probably tweak it to something like:

1. Spawning - 5/600m
2. Crates - 400m
3. House locking 400m

Sounds great, will anything like this be done with turfs? Who ever owns houses watching the flag wins the cap pretty much, who ever respawns first.

[Midamaru]

4 minutes ago, bamf said:

You realize it's only "useless" while the flag is in specific spots right?  We can probably tweak it to something like:

1. Spawning - 5/600m
2. Crates - 400m
3. House locking 400m

Dunno if this was taken into consideration but if i had a house 600m away from a cartel with crates. That's the perfect distance to start off and snipe people, or pick a direction to push into.

Houses nearby a cartel will always be very valuable and usefull as they are the quickest way to get back to an important fight. If not a house at 600m, it will be a shed at 1.2km or something.

[Wang Liqin]

43 minutes ago, bamf said:

You realize it's only "useless" while the flag is in specific spots right?  We can probably tweak it to something like:

1. Spawning - 5/600m
2. Crates - 400m
3. House locking 400m

It should still just be once the cartel is contested etc you cannot spawn there. If the person is able to drive to their house while the cartel is near then they should be able to use it. I get your point that you want to move cartels into more populated areas but on Arms Island there are like 3 houses that are within this range so there are only a small amount of people who paid ALOT of money for the house can use them.

EDIT: and yes i am saying this because I own arms dealer houses. One of my houses are rendered completely useless 50% of the time.

Edited August 20, 2016 by Wang Liqin

[Feenix]

Listen to wang @bamf. Make it to where the cartel is contested u can't spawn there kinda like how the turf goes red

[bamf]

How are the new cartel locations?  Any tweaks that need to be done?

[JIMBO]

2 minutes ago, bamf said:

How are the new cartel locations?  Any tweaks that need to be done?

Wongs construction seems pretty cool and good to fight at besides that area I showed you, not sure if you fixed that already but if so then +1 for that.

 

You did good bamf, you made all cartels worth fighting for, no one would give a shit about defending oil cartel/wongs before, now it's a viable place to fight and hold.

 

The last few updates have been great, good job.

[Gatorade]

Good stuff @bamf. Can't complain about anything . Cocaine castle is still aids but it's grand fathered in

Edited September 18, 2016 by Sugarfoot

[Vanilla Coke]

Hey guys, let's discuss some cartel locations.

[Widsyy]

get rid of sfaka?

[JIMBO]

18 minutes ago, Widsyy said:

get rid of sfaka?

Sfaka would be a good place to fight if people actually played the cap, when the cap is sfaka the fight is every hill surrounding within 4km ._.

Edited October 20, 2016 by Jimbo

[Vanilla Coke]

and here we are, half a year later, with Cocaine Castle in the rotation.

[Bikstok]

On 13/11/2016 at 1:46 AM, Vanilla Coke said:

and here we are, half a year later, with Cocaine Castle in the rotation.

At least they moved the cap away from castle. Still a bad location though..

[.Sean]

Remove cocaine castle give us back meth house ty

[Huan Lee]

7 hours ago, House. said:

Remove cocaine castle give us back meth house ty

Meth house was cancerous