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APD breaking RP Guilty until proven innocent mentality breaks this mod and ruins server

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Ok so ive noticed a disturbing trend that is breaking the mod lately. Basically the APD knows everyone besides them are criminals and they have a guilty until innocent mentality that breaks RP and chokes the life out of the mod. I have two examples that i personally keep happening. The first is the lazy APD just hang around towns, i have never been caught by APD in an actual illegal zone. I was playing and had no bounty no illegal items. I go to the DMV to get a truck out and the APD make me get out and in the process put a tracker on my truck and of course i go do something illegal ( the entire point of the mod). on my way back 100% offroads here comes a cop out in the middle of no where busts me and impounds my shit. So just getting a truck out allows them the right to put a tracker on it? sorry but that breaks the game, I have to be able to make money, some catch me with good ol fashion detective work and i have no problem with it. but tracking my truck as soon as i get it out of DMV, that cant be allowed. The second issue was once again i had a truck out and of course no APD in any of the illegal zones. I make it all the way back to my house. Park the truck out front and start unloading no bounty, nothing illegal visible. Two APD drive by circle back around and come looking in my truck. cease all my stuff. If we are gonna do the whole " RP" thing, than a truck outside a house is not cause for a police search. If you didn't catch me in the illegal area and i dot have a bounty tan APD didn't do their job and shouldn't be able to play such a lazy style.

 

Bottom line is if we are gonna "RP" than the APD needs to RP probable cause. they cant just track me or waiti around town for trucks to come in to unload stuff. Obviously everyone that isnt a cop is gogin to be doing illegal activity so go out and stop them. The way they do it now is breaking the game. So did i just run across bad cops? or is this just how the APD is on this server, if so that's the reason its dying.

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Hey man i know playing on this server can sometimes be frustrating for new people. If you would like to come speak with me about the server rules or any general questions, come on our teamspeak at ts3.gaming-asylum.com:9216 and we can have a nice chat.

 

 

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If you've never been caught in an illegal zone, then clearly you've never played when there is a medium to large amount of cops on. And the point of the tracker is so we know when to check the illegal zones. 

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it's a pretty relaxed RP server man, just realize that it's not one of those servers where everyone has to roleplay as John Stamos the 3rd and if they ever break character they're banned and you'll be fine 

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@oneofus1 from an APD standpoint, we patrol illegal areas and towns all the time, but we are only allowed to check illegal areas every 20 minutes unless we have a cause to go back, such as a ping/phone call/text/etc... there are various reasons for us to return, but generally if we don't see you go into an illegal area and you don't have a bounty and enter after we check it, you should be safe for approximately 20 minutes.

As for trackers, we don't really have much enforcement with trackers, long story short, if you have something that could be used for trafficking, assume it will be tagged with a tracker, simple fix is to store it and pull it back out, removing the tracker...

The last and most important thing I read, unless I am mistaken/reading it wrong is we CANNOT search you or your vehicle unless your bounty is $2,500+ OR you are within 300m of a drug field OR are off-roading (not driving on roads) without a good RP reason such as "I shot a deer and am trying to track it down" something lively and fun... if you have any further questions regarding the APD I would be happy to either reply here or talk to you on the TeanSpeak server that @Reapered provided you with (I am not currently home though, currently replying from my phone)

I hope this makes things more understanding as far as the APD and with the advice on how we do things, like I said, I will be happy to reply here until I am home to get on TeamSpeak, just tag me with "@<Jake>" and I will get a notification

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Just now, oneofus1 said:

Ok so ive noticed a disturbing trend that is breaking the mod lately. Basically the APD knows everyone besides them are criminals and they have a guilty until innocent mentality that breaks RP and chokes the life out of the mod. I have two examples that i personally keep happening. The first is the lazy APD just hang around towns, i have never been caught by APD in an actual illegal zone. I was playing and had no bounty no illegal items. I go to the DMV to get a truck out and the APD make me get out and in the process put a tracker on my truck and of course i go do something illegal ( the entire point of the mod). on my way back 100% offroads here comes a cop out in the middle of no where busts me and impounds my shit. So just getting a truck out allows them the right to put a tracker on it? sorry but that breaks the game, I have to be able to make money, some catch me with good ol fashion detective work and i have no problem with it. but tracking my truck as soon as i get it out of DMV, that cant be allowed. The second issue was once again i had a truck out and of course no APD in any of the illegal zones. I make it all the way back to my house. Park the truck out front and start unloading no bounty, nothing illegal visible. Two APD drive by circle back around and come looking in my truck. cease all my stuff. If we are gonna do the whole " RP" thing, than a truck outside a house is not cause for a police search. If you didn't catch me in the illegal area and i dot have a bounty tan APD didn't do their job and shouldn't be able to play such a lazy style.

 

Bottom line is if we are gonna "RP" than the APD needs to RP probable cause. they cant just track me or waiti around town for trucks to come in to unload stuff. Obviously everyone that isnt a cop is gogin to be doing illegal activity so go out and stop them. The way they do it now is breaking the game. So did i just run across bad cops? or is this just how the APD is on this server, if so that's the reason its dying.

This is as far as I got...:thinking:

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Just now, oneofus1 said:

Ok so ive noticed a disturbing trend that is breaking the mod lately. Basically the APD knows everyone besides them are criminals and they have a guilty until innocent mentality that breaks RP and chokes the life out of the mod. I have two examples that i personally keep happening. The first is the lazy APD just hang around towns, i have never been caught by APD in an actual illegal zone. I was playing and had no bounty no illegal items. I go to the DMV to get a truck out and the APD make me get out and in the process put a tracker on my truck and of course i go do something illegal ( the entire point of the mod). on my way back 100% offroads here comes a cop out in the middle of no where busts me and impounds my shit. So just getting a truck out allows them the right to put a tracker on it? sorry but that breaks the game, I have to be able to make money, some catch me with good ol fashion detective work and i have no problem with it. but tracking my truck as soon as i get it out of DMV, that cant be allowed. The second issue was once again i had a truck out and of course no APD in any of the illegal zones. I make it all the way back to my house. Park the truck out front and start unloading no bounty, nothing illegal visible. Two APD drive by circle back around and come looking in my truck. cease all my stuff. If we are gonna do the whole " RP" thing, than a truck outside a house is not cause for a police search. If you didn't catch me in the illegal area and i dot have a bounty tan APD didn't do their job and shouldn't be able to play such a lazy style.

 

Bottom line is if we are gonna "RP" than the APD needs to RP probable cause. they cant just track me or waiti around town for trucks to come in to unload stuff. Obviously everyone that isnt a cop is gogin to be doing illegal activity so go out and stop them. The way they do it now is breaking the game. So did i just run across bad cops? or is this just how the APD is on this server, if so that's the reason its dying.

So from a stand point of view of someone whos played both cop & rebel/civilian i don't see why the tracker would be breaking RP  ? Ive heard a lot of newer players complain about this and it seems a lot of them come here expecting a hardcore rp server. Ive also seen a lot of these newer players use lazy RP stories like "it was self defence" i killed like 14 people in self defence. Oh really. Nice. Best way to RP on this server is to make the cops laugh it'll get you out of most situations. 

The secound story though, if you have no bounty your truck isn't in the middle of the street or offroad and its just sitting next to your house outside of an illegal area then those cops had no right to search it and seize the items. They could get into trouble for doing that because they aren't allowed to.

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Just now, MoralityVII said:

@Mayhem hope you liked those painkillers ;)

They were A1, next time though. I up my game with speed bombs and suicide vests :)

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Just now, Mayhem said:

They were A1, next time though. I up my game with speed bombs and suicide vests :)

can i come dad:wub:

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Just now, william said:

can i come dad:wub:

Of course lol probably going to do some recording Sunday 

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6 hours ago, oneofus1 said:

Ok so ive noticed a disturbing trend that is breaking the mod lately. Basically the APD knows everyone besides them are criminals and they have a guilty until innocent mentality that breaks RP and chokes the life out of the mod. I have two examples that i personally keep happening. The first is the lazy APD just hang around towns, i have never been caught by APD in an actual illegal zone. I was playing and had no bounty no illegal items. I go to the DMV to get a truck out and the APD make me get out and in the process put a tracker on my truck and of course i go do something illegal ( the entire point of the mod). on my way back 100% offroads here comes a cop out in the middle of no where busts me and impounds my shit. So just getting a truck out allows them the right to put a tracker on it? sorry but that breaks the game, I have to be able to make money, some catch me with good ol fashion detective work and i have no problem with it. but tracking my truck as soon as i get it out of DMV, that cant be allowed. The second issue was once again i had a truck out and of course no APD in any of the illegal zones. I make it all the way back to my house. Park the truck out front and start unloading no bounty, nothing illegal visible. Two APD drive by circle back around and come looking in my truck. cease all my stuff. If we are gonna do the whole " RP" thing, than a truck outside a house is not cause for a police search. If you didn't catch me in the illegal area and i dot have a bounty tan APD didn't do their job and shouldn't be able to play such a lazy style.

 

Bottom line is if we are gonna "RP" than the APD needs to RP probable cause. they cant just track me or waiti around town for trucks to come in to unload stuff. Obviously everyone that isnt a cop is gogin to be doing illegal activity so go out and stop them. The way they do it now is breaking the game. So did i just run across bad cops? or is this just how the APD is on this server, if so that's the reason its dying.

If you suspect some one put a tracer on your truck, store it and take it out again.

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They aren't allowed to search your truck if you're not in an illegal area so your rights as a civ were violated if your story is true 

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11 hours ago, oneofus1 said:

Ok so ive noticed a disturbing trend that is breaking the mod lately. Basically the APD knows everyone besides them are criminals and they have a guilty until innocent mentality that breaks RP and chokes the life out of the mod. I have two examples that i personally keep happening. The first is the lazy APD just hang around towns, i have never been caught by APD in an actual illegal zone. I was playing and had no bounty no illegal items. I go to the DMV to get a truck out and the APD make me get out and in the process put a tracker on my truck and of course i go do something illegal ( the entire point of the mod). on my way back 100% offroads here comes a cop out in the middle of no where busts me and impounds my shit. So just getting a truck out allows them the right to put a tracker on it? sorry but that breaks the game, I have to be able to make money, some catch me with good ol fashion detective work and i have no problem with it. but tracking my truck as soon as i get it out of DMV, that cant be allowed. The second issue was once again i had a truck out and of course no APD in any of the illegal zones. I make it all the way back to my house. Park the truck out front and start unloading no bounty, nothing illegal visible. Two APD drive by circle back around and come looking in my truck. cease all my stuff. If we are gonna do the whole " RP" thing, than a truck outside a house is not cause for a police search. If you didn't catch me in the illegal area and i dot have a bounty tan APD didn't do their job and shouldn't be able to play such a lazy style.

 

Bottom line is if we are gonna "RP" than the APD needs to RP probable cause. they cant just track me or waiti around town for trucks to come in to unload stuff. Obviously everyone that isnt a cop is gogin to be doing illegal activity so go out and stop them. The way they do it now is breaking the game. So did i just run across bad cops? or is this just how the APD is on this server, if so that's the reason its dying.

 

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Just now, massi said:

They aren't allowed to search your truck if you're not in an illegal area so your rights as a civ were violated if your story is true 

Meh, the odds that story are 100% accurate are as much as a patch coming out tomorrow.

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Just now, HotWings said:

Meh, the odds that story are 100% accurate are as much as a patch coming out tomorrow.

Wait there's a patch coming tomorrow?!

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If you see a cop put a tracker on your vehicle; store it and pull it again.

It's balanced. You should be watching your vehicle at all times when cops pull you over.

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I tell them to suck my anus and the proceed to kill them if it’s only 1 officer. Final process store the vehicle and pull it back out. If any officers have been near your car it is always safe to store and repull 

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you need a shed my man, you can spawn your trucks in the safety of your shed and load it up with items to make money and they cannot put a tracker on it while in your shed, get a shed is my advice

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