Steve Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) So to my understanding the fed currently only spawns gold bars after 45 minutes unless I missed something in the recent patch notes (it's almost 5 am I haven't slept yet bare with me) and they also spawn over time throughout the restart. Many of times if you want to do a fed and get the maximum amount of gold bars it would have to be at the tail end of the restart and this sucks for 2 reasons, I'll elaborate. For one, the server is far more stable as far as I can tell as a player immediately after a restart, and two the restart timer can be off sometimes, by 15 minutes or so. That being said, I think the fed should be doable 20 minutes into a restart, this gives cops enough time for a briefing, to log back on, and what not. The second part of this idea would be that bars would not be spawned in throughout the restart but instead when the fed is started the number of gold bars spawned would be determined by the amount of players online at the time of the fed starting. This way you don't have to wait 2 hours to get the maximum out of a fed, and you can depend on the server performance to be generally more stable throughout the fed. For instance 1-25 players is 6 bars 26-50 players is 9 bars 51-75 players is 12 bars 76-100 players is maximum, which last I was told was around 15 or 16. Obviously the players required could be moved around as well as the number of bars spawned in relation to the number of players. You get the idea. I personally don't see a flaw within this system, if you do please say so and why. This could potentially in a very minor way help server performance, as the bars are not sitting in the domes throughout the whole restart, but would instead be spawned in at the start of the robbery. @bamf I'd like to hear your thoughts on this when you have the time. Edited January 16, 2018 by Steve TRYHARD and Sikorsky like this Link to comment
Smarty Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Clearly you never got to enjoy a 21 bar fed Edited January 16, 2018 by Smarty Rodrigo, Buck, Sp0on and 1 other like this Link to comment
Steve Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Smarty said: Clearly you never go to enjoy a 21 bar fed No sir, I heard FSA would bring 2 hemmts. Link to comment
Mayhem Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I like this idea, would be interesting for that small dome in the south west corner to produce banded money instead of a bar, the price of it would very on how long the server is up Link to comment
Guest Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Steve said: The second part of this idea would be that bars would not be spawned in throughout the restart but instead when the fed is started the number of gold bars spawned would be determined by the amount of players online at the time of the fed starting.@bamf Gold bars spawn when you crack into a dome. Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The gold bars spawn the minute the server starts. There is a timer (with some randomization) that puts the bars in place. Doing a fed straight after a server restart isn't a great idea, but give it 10-15 minutes and there should be plenty of bars there for the taking... Edit: Also, we can't have X bars spawn based on server population spawn when a fed robbery starts b/c I already see potential for a money exploit based on the current fed cool down etc. Gatorade and Rodrigo like this Link to comment
Penguin_ Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bamf said: The gold bars spawn the minute the server starts. There is a timer (with some randomization) that puts the bars in place. Doing a fed straight after a server restart isn't a great idea, but give it 10-15 minutes and there should be plenty of bars there for the taking... Edit: Also, we can't have X bars spawn based on server population spawn when a fed robbery starts b/c I already see potential for a money exploit based on the current fed cool down etc. So basically wait an hour after restart to do a fed? Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Penguin_ said: So basically wait an hour after restart to do a fed? An hour is too long (depending on your group size of course). There is a ton of money available in there fairly quickly. My point was, don't sit with a HEMTT during the restart to charge right in... Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Also of note, I have a change that will give you the chance to mitigate SWAT ladders a touch. I've got to finish coding it and see what I think, but some of you may have already noticed signs of it at the fed. Tyler likes this Link to comment
Gatorade Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) @bamfI think the whole spawning idea after x amount of time or x amount of things is just asking for a problem. Keep it to where there is a like a 20-30 minute cool down at the start of the fed , similar to when you finish one, that way the server has a chance to get its self together at the start of server. After that whatever dome you open up should spawn a random amount of bars between 2-4. This way the worst fed you can do is 12 and the best you can do is 24. The less shit being put on a script the better server performance you will get period Edited January 16, 2018 by Sugarfoot Link to comment
skrood Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, Smarty said: Clearly you never got to enjoy a 21 bar fed next time 21 ? Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Sugarfoot said: @bamfI think the whole spawning idea after x amount of time or x amount of things is just asking for a problem. Keep it to where there is a like a 20-30 minute cool down at the start of the fed , similar to when you finish one, that way the server has a chance to get its self together at the start of server. After that whatever dome you open up should spawn a random amount of bars between 2-4. This way the worst fed you can do is 12 and the best you can do is 24. The less shit being put on a script the better server performance you will get period The script that handles this piece is highly optimized now. I don't think it's really an issue. Gatorade likes this Link to comment
Bikstok Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Gnashes said: Gold bars spawn when you crack into a dome. Space, Seán That Irish Guy, Clint Beastwood and 1 other like this Link to comment
Guest Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Bikstok said: Was looking at Bank code, not fed Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bamf said: Also of note, I have a change that will give you the chance to mitigate SWAT ladders a touch. I've got to finish coding it and see what I think, but some of you may have already noticed signs of it at the fed. I hope its still along the lines of what we talked about. Kev 23 likes this Link to comment
Mayhem Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 SWAT ladders don’t matter. They use vans now Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Mayhem said: SWAT ladders don’t matter. They use vans now Vans wouldn't matter either. BioHazard and Seán That Irish Guy like this Link to comment
Mayhem Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bamf said: Vans wouldn't matter either. All vans should have built in speed bombs so we can do a reenactment of the movie speed, but instead of buses. It’s vans Seán That Irish Guy, BlackShot and Emma like this Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Mayhem said: All vans should have built in speed bombs so we can do a reenactment of the movie speed, but instead of buses. It’s vans So I'm hearing that when a civilian pulls a van from the garage you want us to roll a dice and put a speedbomb on the van. Did I get that right? BlackShot, TNT, BioHazard and 2 others like this Link to comment
Rogue Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bamf said: So I'm hearing that when a civilian pulls a van from the garage you want us to roll a dice and put a speedbomb on the van. Did I get that right? I am sure i can speak for FSA on this one... +1 Kev 23 and Steve like this Link to comment
Mayhem Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bamf said: So I'm hearing that when a civilian pulls a van from the garage you want us to roll a dice and put a speedbomb on the van. Did I get that right? No, run a script that when the fed is active, it looks for police vans in the area and attaches a speed bomb to them, or it spawns spikes at the wheels so they can’t move Link to comment
bamf Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Mayhem said: No, run a script that when the fed is active, it looks for police vans in the area and attaches a speed bomb to them, or it spawns spikes at the wheels so they can’t move A van at the fed is a valid thing though. What if they need a "large" vehicle to transport all the Kavala hood rats back to HQ who tried to rob the Fed? Link to comment
Mayhem Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bamf said: A van at the fed is a valid thing though. What if they need a "large" vehicle to transport all the Kavala hood rats back to HQ who tried to rob the Fed? Once it’s elevated security they can repair the van if the script only spiked their tires Link to comment
Steve Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, bamf said: An hour is too long (depending on your group size of course). There is a ton of money available in there fairly quickly. My point was, don't sit with a HEMTT during the restart to charge right in... In most instances with a full server how long would you say it will take for the fed to fill up completely? Link to comment
bamf Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, Steve said: In most instances with a full server how long would you say it will take for the fed to fill up completely? It's randomized, and not based on server population. Link to comment
Steve Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, bamf said: It's randomized, and not based on server population. You said though that after 15 minutes or so there should be plenty of bars in the fed, are we talking like 5 or 12? Link to comment
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