He never was the leader of innovative.. Dupe, Manpon, Killswitch, Hopie, cheechnchong, Killadog, Me and all the others we never had a ''leader'' in innovative.. we all voted the decision we took like a round table. Maybe when we all left because of life he became ''Leader'' but he never was in my time.
Oh and the first original members that created Innovative were HOPIE AND KILLADOG, Then My gang that we had with Manpon and dupe all joined INNOVATIVE thats when server 1 was ours.