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First off I’d like to say I don’t take any credit for this, I was given this idea by Vape Chan.

So if your a rebel you get infamy for doing illegal stuff like selling drugs, of if you’ a bounty hunter you get honor for arresting people. What if you did legal stuff and get (whatever you wanna call it) to sell diamonds for more, or one of the talents could be that you have a higher chance to get flawless diamonds, stuff like that. 

Think you can do that @Jesse and @Gen. Henry Arnold?

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2 hours ago, Tyler said:

civs kind already have a full talent tree... and plus if you are trying to make money you almost always should do illegal stuff anyways. Just buy a rebel license get infamy and run drugs.

Ok what about the people who don’t want to be rebel or bh, I’ve met a decent amount of people who don’t want to be either. It’s also something for people to accomplish, say you have all the infamy and honor talents, you can work on the civ ones.

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There is a civilian talent tree that does all this already.

Faster mining. Higher chance of diamonds etc. etc.

Civilians aren't supposed to be a high tier class with extra perks because everyone is a civilian.. Bounty hunter and rebel is an upgrade specialisation class from civilian.

What you're asking for is really a third high tier specialisation. I'd say it should be a third class called Kavalian. Free rooks and shit.

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16 hours ago, Lucien said:

What exactly do these people want to do? Cartels/Feds/Banks/Prison are the focuses of the gamemode (this is a light rp server after all)

Yea idk what they want to do, they just said they didn’t want to be rebel or bh

 

5 hours ago, Big Fred said:

There is a civilian talent tree that does all this already.

Faster mining. Higher chance of diamonds etc. etc.

Civilians aren't supposed to be a high tier class with extra perks because everyone is a civilian.. Bounty hunter and rebel is an upgrade specialisation class from civilian.

What you're asking for is really a third high tier specialisation. I'd say it should be a third class called Kavalian. Free rooks and shit.

Ok what about the ultimate citizen who is well known by the island so he gets discounts on cars, boats, and helicopters, or who is a professional miner and can gather and process materials faster, just little stuff that can make legal jobs a bit more worthwhile.

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On 2/27/2019 at 4:35 PM, Ray Person said:

Ok what about the people who don’t want to be rebel or bh, I’ve met a decent amount of people who don’t want to be either. It’s also something for people to accomplish, say you have all the infamy and honor talents, you can work on the civ ones.

Then they aren't playing the game right. The game is based around rebels... you are SUPPOSED to go around fighting and killing people, bounty hunting, or playing cop. The minor civ stuff in the beginning is there just for new players to make some safe cash to start out without getting into a gun fight / robbed by a group of 6 rebels or stopped by cops every 20 minutes or some higher tier players stockpile the legal stuff to make guns/vehicles.

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15 hours ago, Tyler said:

Then they aren't playing the game right. The game is based around rebels... you are SUPPOSED to go around fighting and killing people, bounty hunting, or playing cop. The minor civ stuff in the beginning is there just for new players to make some safe cash to start out without getting into a gun fight / robbed by a group of 6 rebels or stopped by cops every 20 minutes or some higher tier players stockpile the legal stuff to make guns/vehicles.

That’s what this would be, a way for new people to get started.

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On 2/27/2019 at 12:36 PM, Gen. Henry Arnold said:

Don’t we have civilian talents that do just this?

We could start with making civilian things actually worth while...make it profitable to run diamonds or fish or anything other than illegal stuff. The money to time is awful with legal civilian activities.

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2 hours ago, 王 rando 王 said:

i dont see anything obvious about it. please explain

Basically what @Huan Lee said the amount of money you make should be equivalent to the amount of risk you take. So pulling a Taru and slinging a HMMT Transport full of meth supplies is a shit ton of risk... if you get robbed you lose what $500,000-ish but the profit is ridiculous, compared to running diamonds where your only risk is a box truck and maybe some minor y inventory/gun so a risk of <$50,000 should not even be anywhere near the same profit as something like running meth where you risk so much input time/cash and can be interrupted by any rebel with a car and a gun or cops.

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7 hours ago, Huan Lee said:

Why risk going to prison for running meth when you can get 10x the amount picking peaches, only if you get the talents of course

5 hours ago, Tyler said:

Basically what @Huan Lee said the amount of money you make should be equivalent to the amount of risk you take. So pulling a Taru and slinging a HMMT Transport full of meth supplies is a shit ton of risk... if you get robbed you lose what $500,000-ish but the profit is ridiculous, compared to running diamonds where your only risk is a box truck and maybe some minor y inventory/gun so a risk of <$50,000 should not even be anywhere near the same profit as something like running meth where you risk so much input time/cash and can be interrupted by any rebel with a car and a gun or cops.

dude ik, i was just being a smartass

 

 

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There are talents already that would do this exactly. Ontop of that a new license would be added called "civilian" I guess so it wouldn't interfere with the Infamy/honor points. Personally I don't think it would be a good idea and the talent system is fine for now. The extra stress this would add to the development team while they are working on server crashes and other bugs would be tremendous. Maybe further down the line when the server crashes and the bugs are fixed the talent system could be improved upon.

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