Batcan Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Hotfix #2: Tweaked RPG damage for different vehicle types. Tweaked how? Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Samperino said: The counter of this weapon for civilian (MK200) is purchasable by all civilians. Its 40k+ for the gun and 5k a mag compared to cop prices so Edited June 3, 2019 by Sean That Irish Guy .Casper, Maaqs, J9HUNNA and 12 others like this Link to comment
DankBud Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Samperino said: Only Captains (around 20 whitelisted players, less than half of which are active) can purchase this weapon. The counter of this weapon for civilian (MK200) is purchasable by all civilians. Yea, must of been multiple captains on the other day then like 3-4 people had em when we tried doing a prison an i wasnt expecting it lol J9HUNNA and Fried Rice like this Link to comment
Samperino Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 16 hours ago, Sean That Irish Guy said: Its 40k+ for the gun and 5k a mag compared to cop prices so "But it costs so much!" has never been a good argument for civilian weaponry vs cop weaponry. Civilians The only barrier to entry for civilians to get a gun is a talent and money. Civilians have a plethora of ways to make that money. Civilians have one rule they have to abide by: RDM. Police Barrier to entry is rank. Cops don't make a hell of a lot of money. Cops have many different policies, on top of RDM, that they have to abide by when using weaponry. Lots of civilians wanting to report cops for breaking that APD policy. All in all, I would call that pretty balanced. When civilians are able to spend even more for suicide vests and speedbombs, I don't think $40k + $5k per magazine is a big compromise for such a gun. Link to comment
Nic Rage Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Samperino said: "But it costs so much!" has never been a good argument for civilian weaponry vs cop weaponry. Civilians The only barrier to entry for civilians to get a gun is a talent and money. Civilians have a plethora of ways to make that money. Civilians have one rule they have to abide by: RDM. Police Barrier to entry is rank. Cops don't make a hell of a lot of money. Cops have many different policies, on top of RDM, that they have to abide by when using weaponry. Lots of civilians wanting to report cops for breaking that APD policy. All in all, I would call that pretty balanced. When civilians are able to spend even more for suicide vests and speedbombs, I don't think $40k + $5k per magazine is a big compromise for such a gun. Suicide vests and car bombs can be used to flatten buildings, kill large groups, and destroy any vehicle upon use, they should be 50k. Mk 200's on the other hand are not guaranteed kills, they are incapable of flattening a building, and can only blow up a vehicle after hundreds of rounds. MK 200 base price is too high, same for LIM, (Im not a cop so it may already be like this) I think that the price of the MXSW should equal the difference between a rebel MK 1 and a MK 200, so at least 20k. J9HUNNA likes this Link to comment
Innate Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Samperino said: Cops have many different policies, on top of RDM, that they have to abide by when using weaponry. Lots of civilians wanting to report cops for breaking that APD policy. This is such a retarded argument. The only time anyone complains about getting shit on by an mxsw is when they have gear and are actively fighting back. When the APD is engaged in a firefight there is no restrictions on using a weapon, that is why the gun is OP because it has a significant advantage against the other guns frequently used by rebels. Dally, TRYHARD, Fried Rice and 3 others like this Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Samperino said: "But it costs so much!" has never been a good argument for civilian weaponry vs cop weaponry. Civilians The only barrier to entry for civilians to get a gun is a talent and money. Civilians have a plethora of ways to make that money. Civilians have one rule they have to abide by: RDM. Police Barrier to entry is rank. Cops don't make a hell of a lot of money. Cops have many different policies, on top of RDM, that they have to abide by when using weaponry. Lots of civilians wanting to report cops for breaking that APD policy. All in all, I would call that pretty balanced. When civilians are able to spend even more for suicide vests and speedbombs, I don't think $40k + $5k per magazine is a big compromise for such a gun. You are such a naive person its actually amazing you can still function on a day to day basis. Having a cheap 100 round mag gun on cop where you can easily just regear vs a expensive rarely bought gun that can go poof in a second with still broke downing rounds is not grounds for an argument. Cops dont make a hell of a lot of money?? Edited June 3, 2019 by Sean That Irish Guy TRYHARD, thero, Dally and 7 others like this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Samperino said: "But it costs so much!" has never been a good argument for civilian weaponry vs cop weaponry. Civilians The only barrier to entry for civilians to get a gun is a talent and money. Civilians have a plethora of ways to make that money. Civilians have one rule they have to abide by: RDM. Police Barrier to entry is rank. Cops don't make a hell of a lot of money. Cops have many different policies, on top of RDM, that they have to abide by when using weaponry. Lots of civilians wanting to report cops for breaking that APD policy. All in all, I would call that pretty balanced. When civilians are able to spend even more for suicide vests and speedbombs, I don't think $40k + $5k per magazine is a big compromise for such a gun. APD hands up! Or F to initiate on somebody. Man that's rough Fried Rice, TRYHARD, Seán That Irish Guy and 3 others like this Link to comment
Samperino Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sean That Irish Guy said: You are such a naive person its actually amazing you can still function on a day to day basis. Having a cheap 100 round mag gun on cop where you can easily just regear vs a expensive rarely bought gun that can go poof in a second with still broke downing rounds is not grounds for an argument. Cops dont make a hell of a lot of money?? Sure. We’ll make it the same price as civilian and open it up to Constable+ to make it fair. cHIP oTLE and Chase Gustavsen like this Link to comment
Chase Gustavsen Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 lol, that's one way to do it. Link to comment
ham. Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Samperino said: Only Captains (around 20 whitelisted players, less than half of which are active) can purchase this weapon. The counter of this weapon for civilian (MK200) is purchasable by all civilians. The problem isn't only the amount of ammo per clip of the weapon retard, its the 0 fucking recoil with the bipod. Edited June 3, 2019 by Poke Link to comment
TRYHARD Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 I'm not even against the captain MSXW. Its definitely a step up and I don't see a reason why captains shouldn't have a better gun than LT's. But why try and act like it was implemented to give cops an MK200 equivalent? MK200 costs so much that no one ever buys it. And if I'm not mistaken rebels are supposed to have the superior equipment available while cops often have numbers and free/cheap gear. 1 hour ago, Samperino said: Sure. We’ll make it the same price as civilian and open it up to Constable+ to make it fair. Make it so I can spawn at rebel with a free load out and we have a deal. Mason, Sheriff Rick, Innate and 2 others like this Link to comment
Kawaii Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Samperino said: Sure. We’ll make it the same price as civilian and open it up to Constable+ to make it fair. Fried Rice, Good Lub, Innate and 2 others like this Link to comment
Tony Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Samperino said: Only Captains (around 20 whitelisted players, less than half of which are active) can purchase this weapon. The counter of this weapon for civilian (MK200) is purchasable by all civilians. Edited June 3, 2019 by Tony. Sheriff Rick, Innate, Good Lub and 6 others like this Link to comment
Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 LOL Asylum toxic as ever with <100 total active players. Link to comment
Samperino Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TRYHARD said: I'm not even against the captain MSXW. Its definitely a step up and I don't see a reason why captains shouldn't have a better gun than LT's. But why try and act like it was implemented to give cops an MK200 equivalent? It wasn't. It was initially added as a tester to see if it would be viable to give to other ranks. It wasn't given to Captains for the sole purpose of a counter to the MK200. End result, or the result so far, is that it's not overpowered enough to remove from the cop force, but powerful enough to keep at the Captain rank. But that's not up to me entirely, that's up to CM/Ownership. 1 hour ago, TRYHARD said: MK200 costs so much that no one ever buys it. And if I'm not mistaken rebels are supposed to have the superior equipment available while cops often have numbers and free/cheap gear. I'm not entirely sure about the history of the price of the MK200, but I believe it's been the same price since it was implemented on Asylum. The problem is that the meta has changed quite drastically since new guns have been added over time. We're acting like the civilians are hurting because the MK200 is "too expensive to use," but let's be real, even if it was cheaper, you would still buy and use the MK-I EMR just because of how powerful it is. The issue isn't pricing, it's the meta as a whole. 1 hour ago, TRYHARD said: Make it so I can spawn at rebel with a free load out and we have a deal. Hah. If I had full reigns, I would make police equipment cost the same as civilian equipment. 1:1 ratio. TRYHARD likes this Link to comment
Batcan Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) I mean shit I'd buy an mk200 if it was 15k. Would just rather not pay 70k per loadout to lose it. Edited June 3, 2019 by Batcan J9HUNNA and .Casper like this Link to comment
cHIP oTLE Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Shit, I lose 95% of the fights I go into, but I’m still having fun... its just a game, and it doesn’t need to be fair... just have FUN MASTA_B, Samperino, J9HUNNA and 1 other like this Link to comment
TRYHARD Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, Samperino said: I'm not entirely sure about the history of the price of the MK200, but I believe it's been the same price since it was implemented on Asylum. The problem is that the meta has changed quite drastically since new guns have been added over time. We're acting like the civilians are hurting because the MK200 is "too expensive to use," but let's be real, even if it was cheaper, you would still buy and use the MK-I EMR just because of how powerful it is. The issue isn't pricing, it's the meta as a whole. For the most part it is about prices. Aside from the kids that run money all day just to buy the most expensive loadout they can at rebel. Need some long overdue price adjustments to get people using other guns. If shit isnt being bought bring the price down and maybe everyone wouldnt be using the MK1 or MK18. Samperino and Ghost0fDawn like this Link to comment
Innate Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz said: LOL Asylum toxic as ever with <100 total active players. The guy is missing brain cells what do you expect. Link to comment
J9HUNNA Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 hours ago, •ÐŠ• cHIP oTLE said: Shit, I lose 95% of the fights I go into, but I’m still having fun... its just a game, and it doesn’t need to be fair... just have FUN we lose 50% of those fights before we even arrive or on arrival, we are our own enemy :c DankBud, cHIP oTLE, Maaqs and 1 other like this Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 instead of having different mags for all the mx weapons, can you just make all the mags black Maaqs and Face Chaser like this Link to comment
Pizza Man Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Bag Of Funyuns said: instead of having different mags for all the mx weapons, can you just make all the mags black It's not like they weigh anymore having 2 stacks of 1, than 1 stack of 2. Just mix and match dude. Link to comment
Farmer Steve Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Pizza Man said: It's not like they weigh anymore having 2 stacks of 1, than 1 stack of 2. Just mix and match dude. For the color not weight. Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just enjoy the extra mag colours and gun customisation Link to comment
Demon! Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Just enjoy the extra mag colours and gun customisation so can we have different colored type 115s added? and make it like koth for cops so they have to purchase the gear everytime they spawn? Link to comment
Good Lub Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 1 Edited June 18, 2019 by Good Lub Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 cancerous having 3 different types of mags in my crate Ghost0fDawn likes this Link to comment
Bazzajack Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Pizza Man said: It's not like they weigh anymore having 2 stacks of 1, than 1 stack of 2. Fried Rice, Farmer Steve, Masonn and 4 others like this Link to comment
Pizza Man Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bazzajack said: The point is, the color does not make a difference. Just buy black mags, if you want black mags. Link to comment
Farmer Steve Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Pizza Man said: The point is, the color does not make a difference. Just buy black mags, if you want black mags. You can't buy black mags at skip tracer. BLACK. Fried Rice likes this Link to comment
Pizza Man Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Farmer Steve said: You can't buy black mags at skip tracer. BLACK. uhhhhhhh, because they sell tan and khaki mx varients. I think you are just out of luck man. Sorry you can't match a mag to your endless supply of police weapons. Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 It's not only because you can have khaki mags in sand guns, but also because there's three different types of mags in my house for the MX. There is black lethal, black downing, khaki lethal, khaki downing, sand lethal, and sand downing. Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Blame Bohemia Link to comment
bigjohn561 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 tbh since its hard for me to get kills as it is.... if mk200 was cheaper I would only be using the mk200. just saying... want it to be used? lower the price. Link to comment
Nic Rage Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 What is is this reset happening on server 1 about? Bag Of Funyuns likes this Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) get fucking trolled nerds Edited June 20, 2019 by Bag Of Funyuns Nic Rage likes this Link to comment
Nicolas March Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 J9HUNNA likes this Link to comment
Protocol Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 I’m sorry but with the constant nerfs to money making I’m losing my will to play this game due to the fact that they want to limit the money we make because if we make to much money we will cause problems for the career cops and we can’t let that happen since most of the staff only play cop! Bherky and J9HUNNA like this Link to comment
cHIP oTLE Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Dillon said: I’m sorry but with the constant nerfs to money making I’m losing my will to play this game due to the fact that they want to limit the money we make because if we make to much money we will cause problems for the career cops and we can’t let that happen since most of the staff only play cop! There hasn’t been any legit nerfs to money making. Scotch is now, how it should’ve always been. And gun running was just balanced out. They were tweaked so now having Wongs and Arms Cartels actually mean something... How they were before woulda been like running meth without having a cartel cut taken out if you don’t own Drug Cartel. And some staff are career cops PRIOR to becoming staff. There are few exceptions... for example; Mason - not a career cop, and Steve rarely EVER plays cop. And hey, if you are bothered that your money-making methods have been tweaked, you could always do the campaign for the 25th time. J9HUNNA likes this Link to comment
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