Seán That Irish Guy Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Let me start off by saying the new housing update is a massive improvement from what we had beforehand and i dont wanna seem to premature about making posts about V2 when it just went live but i feel like its better to get it out of the way before everything is set in stone and some people are questioning the new upgrade prices. Before V2 everyone was custom to buying a house for 70k, 120k, 150, 220k etc and then buying multiple crates whether they be small or large. But now from what im gathering the house is basically one big crate which isnt a bad thing at all, but upgrading the storage space itself is where i can see there being an issue. Right now every house starts off with 100 phys and virtual and to get more you need to upgrade and it seems quite expensive if you add up owning 10 houses, max you can own. 220k 3 crate house before v2 selling at market price including crates would cost you 280k all in, times that buy 10 assuming you have all 220k's, thats 2.8mill for 10 houses. Now, if you buy a 220k and upgrade it 5,15,30K for phys and 5, 35, 55K for virtual, thats 3.6mill for 10 houses. Why is there such a big increase for v2? Now im not mad or upset by this, i like the addition of paying for storage upgrades but i just think the pricing is a little steep right now and should maybe be addressed before anything with v2 is set in stone. You guys have been transparent throughout the development of things so im sure you'll state your reasons and address any concerns. Forgot to tagged the big bois: @Jesse @Clint Beastwood Edited August 16, 2019 by Sean That Irish Guy Innate, Farmer Steve, Kawaii and 3 others like this Link to comment
Smee Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I like how there is no need to go to housing market to buy crates, but what is really a downfall is them prices, I know from an average player it can be quite expensive to upgrade especially from my point of view it really is and already had a hard hit on my bank balance. J9HUNNA likes this Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, Lucien said: Should just be the same price as before especially considering storage space didn't carry over I see what theyre trying to do and i dont mind it but the price of doing so is way too high imo. Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 The prices to upgrade virtual storage are around the same as buying a large crate to increase it by 1000 from v1. (So for 3000 storage you're paying the same as buying 3 large v1 crates). Physical storage has gotten a huge buff, where a single crate could only store something like 30-60 MK1s, now they can store x10-x20 that amount. The physical storage upgrades are aimed more for gang houses and where gangs can pool their money together to get a large physical inventory to gear up from. And nothing in v2 is set in stone. There's a lot of new changes and they will all be closely monitored. Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: The prices to upgrade virtual storage are around the same as buying a large crate to increase it by 1000 from v1. (So for 3000 storage you're paying the same as buying 3 large v1 crates). Physical storage has gotten a huge buff, where a single crate could only store something like 30-60 MK1s, now they can store x10-x20 that amount. The physical storage upgrades are aimed more for gang houses and where gangs can pool their money together to get a large physical inventory to gear up from. And nothing in v2 is set in stone. There's a lot of new changes and they will all be closely monitored. The max amount of mk1's ive been able to get in 1 crate was like 10-12 give or take but definitely not 30-60. Edited August 15, 2019 by Sean That Irish Guy J9HUNNA, Mitch ifrit is a bitch, 王 rando 王 and 1 other like this Link to comment
Reapered Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I don’t think this is as big a deal as people are making it out to be.... Link to comment
danile666 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I didn't like it cause I'm a poor. I have 1.6m to my name. So to upgrade my existing houses, yikes. It's not Gunna drive me away but it does suck. Went from 60k per house for storage to like 140k Link to comment
Keen12321 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 They upped house limit from 5 to 10? J9HUNNA likes this Link to comment
Dust Runner Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, danile666 said: I didn't like it cause I'm a poor. I have 1.6m to my name. So to upgrade my existing houses, yikes. It's not Gunna drive me away but it does suck. Went from 60k per house for storage to like 140k Something to work towards. 1 hour ago, Sean That Irish Guy said: Let me start off by saying the new housing update is a massive improvement from what we had beforehand and i dont wanna seem to premature about making posts about V2 when it just went live but i feel like its better to get it out of the way before everything is set in stone and some people are questioning the new upgrade prices. Before V2 everyone was custom to buying a house for 70k, 120k, 150, 220k etc and then buying multiple crates whether they be small or large. But now from what im gathering the house is basically one big crate which isnt a bad thing at all, but upgrading the storage space itself is where i can see there being an issue. Right now every house starts off with 100 phys and virtual and to get more you need to upgrade and it seems quite expensive if you add up owning 10 houses, max you can own. 220k 3 crate house before v2 selling at market price including crates would cost you 280k all in, times that buy 10 assuming you have all 220k's, thats 2.8mill for 10 houses. Now, if you buy a 220k and upgrade it 5,15,30K for phys and 5, 35, 55K for virtual, thats 3.6mill for 10 houses. Why is there such a big increase for v2? Now im not mad or upset by this, i like the addition of paying for storage upgrades but i just think the pricing is a little steep right now and should maybe be addressed before anything with v2 is set in stone. You guys have been transparent throughout the development of things so im sure you'll state your reasons and address any concerns. Forgot to tagged the big bois: @Jesse @Clint Beastwood Houses are endgame. They are essentially untouchable areas of the map, a safe haven for players. Not to mention you can have double the amount of them you could have before. I think actually using money to invest in something where you can see tangible benefits is a great thing. Edited August 15, 2019 by Dust Runner Jake, Ghost0fDawn and Mason like this Link to comment
•ÐŠ• Randy Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dust Runner said: Not to mention you can have double the amount of them you could have before. uh what? house cap hasnt changed. 3 minutes ago, Dust Runner said: I think actually using money to invest in something where you can see tangible benefits is a great thing. You dont understand, we've already "invested" in house crates, now we have to again J9HUNNA likes this Link to comment
Dust Runner Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, •ÐŠ• Randy said: uh what? house cap hasnt changed. You dont understand, we've already "invested" in house crates, now we have to again I misunderstood the post. My mistake. I stand by investing money into houses with the better system though. I don't think it's that bad and it adds tangible reason to do stuff. DonDurka likes this Link to comment
Boris Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Keen12321 said: They upped house limit from 5 to 10? 2 servers = 10 houses. Probably. I haven't checked. Also we definitely need more money sinks. Jake, Keen12321, Clint Beastwood and 2 others like this Link to comment
Ron Johnson Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I miss having 25 houses. Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I just said make it cheaper cuz I don't like spending money Link to comment
sakha Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 10 house limit is too much Link to comment
bigjohn561 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, sakha said: 10 house limit is too much 5 houses per server.... 2 servers =10 houses. Link to comment
Azeh Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Sean That Irish Guy said: Right now every house starts off with 100 phys and virtual and to get more you need to upgrade and it seems quite expensive if you add up owning 10 houses, max you can own. 220k 3 crate house before v2 selling at market price including crates would cost you 280k all in, times that buy 10 assuming you have all 220k's, thats 2.8mill for 10 houses. Now, if you buy a 220k and upgrade it 5,15,30K for phys and 5, 35, 55K for virtual, thats 3.6mill for 10 houses. Why is there such a big increase for v2? You flipped physical and virtual prices. The upgrade prices are different depending on the house 'tier', but for 220k/150k houses it's: Virtual: $5,000 (500) - $15,000 (1500) - $30,000 (3000) Physical: $5,000 (200) - $35,000 (650) - $55,000 (900) So upgrading the virtual inventory to 3000 space is $50,000. Around 10k cheaper than buying 3 large crates on V1. As for physical inventory, the default storage is 100. That's 33 MK1s. The maximum physical storage for the largest houses is 900. That's 300 MK1s. Jake, Mason, Keen12321 and 1 other like this Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, Azeh said: As for physical inventory, the default storage is 100. That's 33 MK1s. By this do you mean all 3 crates added up equals 100? cuz homie aint 33 mk1s going in 1 crate Link to comment
Smee Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Azeh said: You flipped physical and virtual prices. The upgrade prices are different depending on the house 'tier', but for 220k/150k houses it's: Virtual: $5,000 (500) - $15,000 (1500) - $30,000 (3000) Physical: $5,000 (200) - $35,000 (650) - $55,000 (900) So upgrading the virtual inventory to 3000 space is $50,000. Around 10k cheaper than buying 3 large crates on V1. As for physical inventory, the default storage is 100. That's 33 MK1s. The maximum physical storage for the largest houses is 900. That's 300 MK1s. this makes sence now. •ÐŠ• Randy and HomeUser like this Link to comment
Azeh Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 王 rando 王 said: By this do you mean all 3 crates added up equals 100? cuz homie aint 33 mk1s going in 1 crate I'm talking about V2. Without any upgrades you have 100 physical storage space. Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Just now, Azeh said: I'm talking about V2. Without any upgrades you have 100 physical storage space. ah okay, gotcha and do you need to pay for each tier or can you just skip from all the way up to the highest tier with only paying for the 55k? Edited August 15, 2019 by 王 rando 王 question Link to comment
Azeh Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, 王 rando 王 said: ah okay, gotcha and do you need to pay for each tier or can you just skip from all the way up to the highest tier with only paying for the 55k? Have to pay for each tier. Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Really I think you just have to set up your houses for what you need now. The house I store all my good shit in I would fully upgrade. For a scotch house, all you would need is the max virtual inventory and maybe a little extra physical, same goes for meth houses. So I guess in some ways it could be cheaper if you prioritize. But still I'd like it cheaper cuz fuck spending money Edited August 15, 2019 by Elaiscancer Link to comment
Ghost0fDawn Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Dust Runner said: Something to work towards. Houses are endgame. They are essentially untouchable areas of the map, a safe haven for players. Not to mention you can have double the amount of them you could have before. I think actually using money to invest in something where you can see tangible benefits is a great thing. That's the one downfall. Those damn pistolbanging trolls that sit in their house. firing into towns like Kavala and Athira. Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Dust Runner said: Houses are endgame. They are essentially untouchable areas of the map, a safe haven for players. Not to mention you can have double the amount of them you could have before. I think actually using money to invest in something where you can see tangible benefits is a great thing. Endgame we have already previously invested in, whether that be just buy for market price + crates or buy listed on market for X amount. 6 hours ago, Azeh said: You flipped physical and virtual prices. The upgrade prices are different depending on the house 'tier', but for 220k/150k houses it's: Virtual: $5,000 (500) - $15,000 (1500) - $30,000 (3000) Physical: $5,000 (200) - $35,000 (650) - $55,000 (900) So upgrading the virtual inventory to 3000 space is $50,000. Around 10k cheaper than buying 3 large crates on V1. As for physical inventory, the default storage is 100. That's 33 MK1s. The maximum physical storage for the largest houses is 900. That's 300 MK1s. Its not 10k cheaper because we would have had 3000 virtual before with 3 crates, so we're paying 50k to upgrade for something we had previously. Thats 33 mk1's for 100 storage which is the same as 33 mk1's between 3 crates pre v2 which is 11 per crate which is the same as before basically. Link to comment
Azeh Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, Sean That Irish Guy said: Endgame we have already previously invested in, whether that be just buy for market price + crates or buy listed on market for X amount. Its not 10k cheaper because we would have had 3000 virtual before with 3 crates, so we're paying 50k to upgrade for something we had previously. Thats 33 mk1's for 100 storage which is the same as 33 mk1's between 3 crates pre v2 which is 11 per crate which is the same as before basically. Well there wasn't a price increase, so the prices won't get decreased. Try making a comp request for your V1 crates, but idk if it will get accepted. Link to comment
Vortex Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 honestly think the physical inventory aspect of the new housing system kinda sucks, was alot better the way it was for physical storage danile666 likes this Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Azeh said: Well there wasn't a price increase, so the prices won't get decreased. Try making a comp request for your V1 crates, but idk if it will get accepted. Im not saying there was a price increase on crates but there was a price added ontop of everything. Virtual inventory right now holds fuck all without upgrades even tho i basically had the upgrades pre v2 if you get me? Link to comment
danile666 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Vortex said: honestly think the physical inventory aspect of the new housing system kinda sucks, was alot better the way it was for physical storage Yeah it's really hard to effectively gear up how the list is. Plus only one persona able to access physical. Link to comment
Kyle_ Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eOT8tdqmgoGL17UPXkhuaOiCWZHMynGk18omPdu7los/edit i made this list on v2 test server of house upgrade prices. Link to comment
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