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Jathansapus

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So as many of you know, the launch of the Casino was kind of a cluster fuck. The Devs put the new money making system in Asylum without really understanding the impact or knowing the odds and how to actually play top level blackjack as well as the biggest element, TIME. I am here to bring that to light!

A couple of reasons why you should now stay far away from the game:
-The shuffled the deck every hand, not once the 4-6 decks are complete. This eliminates the "hot" window where the opportunity to capitalize on doubles or dealer bust is highest.

-The win ratio has 100% CHANGED. The dealer consistently wins on 3rd card hands, such as "dealer shows a 6, so you assume its 16, you have 18, you stand, dealer has a 5 in the hole, hits a face card or any card to get higher than 19 every time. Its blatantly apparent to someone who has been gambling for a long time and won and lost 10s of thousands of dollars at a IRL casino.

-Devs have the ability to change the chance or ratios without being transparent. This isn't gambling, it's calculated. 

-Finally, if there is a bug in the game that you arent aware of and you profit from it, they will take your winnings. Apparently the system double paid when you got a 21 on the third or fourth card on a double down. I did not notice this, as all I cared about was if I won or lost. I played a hand about once every 3 seconds, so no, I wasnt watching. All I knew was that if I win, its +100000, if I didn't it was -100000. What else should I expect???

Before the patch, I played Blackjack for 8 hrs straight. I won around 28 Million. I played perfect Blackjack. I lost millions but I could always ride the curve to get past and into the "hot" window again. This isn't possible anymore and the game is just a money sink now. Devs, before you implement a whole new system of money making into the game, might wanna consider all possibilites and have some testers try it out. Admins, big shoutout to you for having to clean up the mess they made. If you would like a lesson on how to help improve this game, please let me know! :)

My final note is this. The Devs have added a system that requires no time. There is nothing to process, nothing to pick, nothing to sell. You sit in a safe room, hit a button, and profit (before the chance ratio changed). Of course it was gonna fuck the economy!?!?! If you can make 100K in 30 mins running a drug but others can make 300K in 1 min, there is a bigggggg problem with the economics. I have some ideas on how to fix this, which I have shared with admins, but I want to see the deck limit and win-loss ration fixed before then. Anyway, thats my rant, I hope you enjoy

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Batcan

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9 minutes ago, Jathansapus said:

So as many of you know, the launch of the Casino was kind of a cluster fuck. The Devs put the new money making system in Asylum without really understanding the impact or knowing the odds and how to actually play top level blackjack as well as the biggest element, TIME. I am here to bring that to light!

A couple of reasons why you should now stay far away from the game:
-The shuffled the deck every hand, not once the 4-6 decks are complete. This eliminates the "hot" window where the opportunity to capitalize on doubles or dealer bust is highest.

-The win ratio has 100% CHANGED. The dealer consistently wins on 3rd card hands, such as "dealer shows a 6, so you assume its 16, you have 18, you stand, dealer has a 5 in the hole, hits a face card or any card to get higher than 19 every time. Its blatantly apparent to someone who has been gambling for a long time and won and lost 10s of thousands of dollars at a IRL casino.

-Devs have the ability to change the chance or ratios without being transparent. This isn't gambling, it's calculated. 

-Finally, if there is a bug in the game that you arent aware of and you profit from it, they will take your winnings. Apparently the system double paid when you got a 21 on the third or fourth card on a double down. I did not notice this, as all I cared about was if I won or lost. I played a hand about once every 3 seconds, so no, I wasnt watching. All I knew was that if I win, its +100000, if I didn't it was -100000. What else should I expect???

Before the patch, I played Blackjack for 8 hrs straight. I won around 28 Million. I played perfect Blackjack. I lost millions but I could always ride the curve to get past and into the "hot" window again. This isn't possible anymore and the game is just a money sink now. Devs, before you implement a whole new system of money making into the game, might wanna consider all possibilites and have some testers try it out. Admins, big shoutout to you for having to clean up the mess they made. If you would like a lesson on how to help improve this game, please let me know! :)

My final note is this. The Devs have added a system that requires no time. There is nothing to process, nothing to pick, nothing to sell. You sit in a safe room, hit a button, and profit (before the chance ratio changed). Of course it was gonna fuck the economy!?!?! If you can make 100K in 30 mins running a drug but others can make 300K in 1 min, there is a bigggggg problem with the economics. I have some ideas on how to fix this, which I have shared with admins, but I want to see the deck limit and win-loss ration fixed before then. Anyway, thats my rant, I hope you enjoy

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Tony

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3 minutes ago, Lucien said:

Ive made a little its just knowing when to stop.

I imagine the idea is to get people to blow lots of money to encourage grinding but I see a lot of old players just getting on to gamble away all their money and then continue not playing.

exactly, I play small bets make some money but then you think, put the odd 100k on and your money just goes south fast. 

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Gen. Henry Arnold

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1 hour ago, Smoklord said:

Ok something is obviously wrong, if we're dealing with 4 decks how can there be 5 Ace of spades on board.

https://imgur.com/a/cVQqUc4

There is only 13 card images, to save mission file space. So there are 13x4x4 cards. If you’ve noticed, each duplicate card on the table is always the same suit as its copy. I just said, hey ace of spades definitely needs to be there then alternated suit for each card.

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Smoklord

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18 hours ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said:

There is only 13 card images, to save mission file space. So there are 13x4x4 cards. If you’ve noticed, each duplicate card on the table is always the same suit as its copy. I just said, hey ace of spades definitely needs to be there then alternated suit for each card.

Makes sense from a Dev perspective thanks for clearing that up. Any chance on adding splits in the future?

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Hoodlum Priest

Hoodlum Priest

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You guys seriously expected the devs of a video game to take into consideration true micro and macro economics and incorporate them into the nuances of a gambling system? 

The easy answer is just like Vegas, stay the fuck away from it. They dont build cities like this out on the desert to give money away to people......its a monument to losers.

 

On a side note, Bag is a  rat snitch........but is anyone surprised?

 

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Romulus

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Sounds like what I hear on a day to day basis running an actual casino.  Card counters or people that think they can count cards have a very inflated ego when it comes to what they think should happen.  In reality if you count a deck down perfect you are literally gaining a 1% increase of your odds maybe tad more.  That would still put the dealer at an advantage over you with out even adding in the other variables such as other players.   Just thought it was funny to read and had to put my 2 cents in. 

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