Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Smoke exploit is cancer 😡 Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 For all the roleplayers who have 0 clue what this is  Jaster, Xavorey, KaReeM Kinte and 3 others like this Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 How the fuck do you expect us to enforce the smoke exploit... I can tell you right now were more likely to remove smokes from the game then sit in Admin chat and argue over who did a smoke exploit...  Might aswell ban the use of yellow smokes aswell.. 王 rando 王, TRYHARD, Alec-I and 2 others like this Link to comment
Alec-I Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: How the fuck do you expect us to enforce the smoke exploit... I can tell you right now were more likely to remove smokes from the game then sit in Admin chat and argue over who did a smoke exploit...  Might aswell ban the use of yellow smokes aswell..  salty Seán That Irish Guy and zetherin like this Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: How the fuck do you expect us to enforce the smoke exploit... I can tell you right now were more likely to remove smokes from the game then sit in Admin chat and argue over who did a smoke exploit... Â Might aswell ban the use of yellow smokes aswell.. Feel free to hit me up to teach you how to use your eyes. Not hard to see if someone is smoking driving into the middle of the smoke hoping out and then shooting everyone. zetherin likes this Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Mason Statham said: Feel free to hit me up to teach you how to use your eyes. Not hard to see if someone is smoking driving into the middle of the smoke hoping out and then shooting everyone. "Oh i didn't mean too i was just slamming window" "He is a good lad didnt mean to exploit give em a unban" Copa likes this Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: "Oh i didn't mean too i was just slamming window" Â Should probably spectate a fight and see how it's being used before commenting more there is no way most of the people do the smoke glitch can come up with the excuse their slamming window since there in the smoke isn't even normally on window and about 25m behind it. Link to comment
uc. Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 I understand what patato means tho, its gonna be hard to prove someone actually meant to do it, hard to prove if he actually smoke exploit or he was just spraying thru the smoke John Lemmon and Innate like this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mason Statham said: Feel free to hit me up to teach you how to use your eyes. Not hard to see if someone is smoking driving into the middle of the smoke hoping out and then shooting everyone. Â 5 minutes ago, Patato said: "Oh i didn't mean too i was just slamming window" "He is a good lad didnt mean to exploit give em a unban" its physically impossible to prove someone is smoke glitching. IF YOU SMOKE DIP, AND THERES GUYS IN DIP, DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO JUST RUN OUT CAUSE YOU SMOKED IT? OR DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO JUST STAY AND FIGHT?? like, if im smoked on window by the enemy, i shouldnt have to run out the smoke to avoid smoke exploit ban, you cant enforce something like this Patato likes this Link to comment
Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 https://gyazo.com/b21e0468fcbdfbae91a26a6df366575f wonder what he was doing there? 🤔 sakha likes this Link to comment
Alec-I Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) YOU CANT BAN PEOPLE FOR BEING IN SMOKE COME ON GUYS ARMA IS TRASH Edited April 9, 2020 by Alec-I zetherin, Dan., John Lemmon and 3 others like this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS FOR YEARSÂ MAN UP USE UR FUCKING TILDE KEY SHITTERS Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joshhh said: https://gyazo.com/b21e0468fcbdfbae91a26a6df366575f wonder what he was doing there? 🤔 "My buddy was in the smoke i revd him" "Had to repair and i sprayed a mag"  Link to comment
Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: "My buddy was in the smoke i revd him" "Had to repair and i sprayed a mag"  he killed someone.... You even watch it? Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Joshhh said: he killed someone.... You even watch it? So anyone in a smoke that gets a kill. WE BAN THEM! Solid plan they took the name eazy likes this Link to comment
Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: So anyone in a smoke that gets a kill. WE BAN THEM!\ Solid plan You're clueless man Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: "My buddy was in the smoke i revd him" "Had to repair and i sprayed a mag" Â You're actually trolling for sure. Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Joshhh said: You're clueless man Imagine i ban you and thats the proof i give you when you come talk to me. id be laughed off the Admin team in about 30 seconds Just now, Mason Statham said: You're actually trolling for sure. He's on to me Link to comment
Jaster Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Disclaimer: I have no idea how deving arma 3 works. Â Couldn't there be a way for the ifrit smokes to be coded where if you are in the smoke you get your screen blurred? Similar to how tear gas works. Also this should be reported to bohemia. Edited April 9, 2020 by Jaster Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Jaster said: I have no idea how deving arma 3 works. Â Couldn't there be a way for the ifrit smokes to be coded where if you are in the smoke you get your screen blurred? Similar to how tear gas works. You could but it would be clunky as their is no way to tie the code to the actual position of the cloud just the canister. So IE if a helicopter came and blew the smoke the visual effect wouldn't line up with the smoke Link to comment
Jaster Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: You could but it would be clunky as their is no way to tie the code to the actual position of the cloud just the canister. So IE if a helicopter came and blew the smoke the visual effect wouldn't line up with the smoke I am 90% sure the canister is the actual reason for the exploit. You have to be standing on or very close to the canister for the exploit to work. So that should still work. Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joshhh said: If only you were Im ready for the next level. Player: He smoke exploited me Admin: He didnt kill anyone? Player: HE GOT OUT IN THE SMOKE AND SHIFT T'd ME SO HIS BUDDY COULD SHOOT ME THRU THE SMOKE FUCKING BAN EM  Banned player: "Im just that good", "lol retard admins don't believe me i shot thru smoke" Link to comment
Dreavey Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: Im ready for the next level. Player: He smoke exploited me Admin: He didnt kill anyone? Player: HE GOT OUT IN THE SMOKE AND SHIFT T'd ME SO HIS BUDDY COULD SHOOT ME THRU THE SMOKE FUCKING BAN EM what?!? Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: You could but it would be clunky as their is no way to tie the code to the actual position of the cloud just the canister. So IE if a helicopter came and blew the smoke the visual effect wouldn't line up with the smoke You realise you have to stand on the canister for the smoke glitch to work. Are you aware of how this thing actually works? Goofi likes this Link to comment
CRH Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: Im ready for the next level. Player: He smoke exploited me Admin: He didnt kill anyone? Player: HE GOT OUT IN THE SMOKE AND SHIFT T'd ME SO HIS BUDDY COULD SHOOT ME THRU THE SMOKE FUCKING BAN EM Â Banned player: "Im just that good" You're actually fucking retarded. I agree with the point that it's hard to enforce, but there's certain scenarios that are blatantly obvious that they're smoke glitching. An example would be the gyazo josh posted. Another example is when someone smokes between star and window and hops out of their ifrit into the smoke and kills 4 people. Hard to enforce but at the same time there are scenarios where it's blatantly obvious they're using the exploit. It's a grey area but should be enforced in some sort of way. KaReeM Kinte and Walt like this Link to comment
Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: Im ready for the next level. Player: He smoke exploited me Admin: He didnt kill anyone? Player: HE GOT OUT IN THE SMOKE AND SHIFT T'd ME SO HIS BUDDY COULD SHOOT ME THRU THE SMOKE FUCKING BAN EM Â Banned player: "Im just that good", "lol retard admins don't believe me i shot thru smoke" This point is so fucking irrelevant, it doesnt matter if they know where I am, its about them having an angle from somewhere in a smoke where we can't see them... Â Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Mason Statham said: You realise you have to stand on the canister for the smoke glitch to work. Are you aware of how this thing actually works? Again it would be clunky, as the status effect could be longer/shorter than the smoke duration. and any tiny server hiccup is going throw it off Link to comment
Jaster Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I think a better option would be to create a fix on the server instead of enforcing it. An example is harry potter spot. It was hard to enforce because it can be hard to tell when someone was hiding there unless you directly see him there from castle. When a wall was placed there the exploit was fixed. Same with this smoke exploit if there could be a way to fix it by coding something into the server then it would solve the issue. Edited April 9, 2020 by Jaster Dreavey, Patato and Joshhh like this Link to comment
Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Just now, Jaster said: I think a better option would be to create a fix on the server instead of enforcing it. An example is harry potter spot. It is hard to enforce because it can be hard to tell when someone was hiding there unless you directly see him there from castle. When a wall was placed there the exploit was fixed. Same with this smoke exploit if there could be a way to fix it by coding something into the server then it would solve the issue. Yeah it doesn't have to be that its made a rule, but personally something needs to be done about it because fights are so fucking cancer with it atm Edited April 9, 2020 by Joshhh Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 who the fuck fights cartels in 2020? Heidelberg, 王 rando 王, Patato and 2 others like this Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Alright jokes and meme's aside. This is a nightmare to enforce, even in the most blatantly obvious cases a strong argument can be made that they didnt mean to do it. And unless they post their perspective in a montage or somthing we will never know 100%. Also just a thought, im going to assume the same group of people are probably exploiting this over and over (As with all exploits) But If you watch an ifirit pop smoke and all of a sudden you can't hear it getting closer is it not obvious what they are doing? Just shoot a few rounds on the left hand side of the ifirit??  Heidelberg and 王 rando 王 like this Link to comment
Clint Beastwood Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Remove ifrit Smokes 2020. Boonie Hat, Revenant, CRH and 3 others like this Link to comment
Jaster Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Just now, Patato said: But If you watch an ifirit pop smoke and all of a sudden you can't hear it getting closer is it not obvious what they are doing? Just shoot a few rounds on the left hand side of the ifirit?? No because a smoke exploit can also be abused by the defending team or players not in the ifrit. For example if a ifrit smokes off vendor to push window the vendor guys will smoke exploit and shoot the people who are slamming window in the back. just give it a rest my dude Edited April 9, 2020 by Jaster Joshhh and Walt like this Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: Alright jokes and meme's aside. This is a nightmare to enforce, even in the most blatantly obvious cases a strong argument can be made that they didnt mean to do it. And unless they post their perspective in a montage or somthing we will never know 100%. Also just a thought, im going to assume the same group of people are probably exploiting this over and over (As with all exploits) But If you watch an ifirit pop smoke and all of a sudden you can't hear it getting closer is it not obvious what they are doing? Just shoot a few rounds on the left hand side of the ifirit??  You cant see where the ifrit is because it's in the smoke? they engine off and roll into the smoke? spectate a fight and watch 🙂 Link to comment
Joshhh Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Jaster said: No because a smoke exploit can also be abused by the defending team or players not in the ifrit. For example if a ifrit smokes off vendor to push window the vendor guys will smoke exploit and shoot the people who are slamming window in the back. just give it a rest my dude I don't think he realises some fights have more than 1 ifrit Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Mason Statham said: You cant see where the ifrit is because it's in the smoke? they engine off and roll into the smoke? spectate a fight and watch 🙂 Ive spectated more fights than you have got kills. If you want to have a discussion about this im apt. But if you want to continue being a tool we can just lock this and move on. william likes this Link to comment
Masonn Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: Ive spectated more fights than you have got kills. If you want to have a discussion about this im apt. But if you want to continue being a tool we can just lock this and move on. I don't get kills buddy. Walt likes this Link to comment
Patato Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Mason Statham said: I don't get kills buddy. You have to understand from an administrative perspective this is a nightmare to enforce. And yes obviously their are very blatant cases and probably a small subset of people abusing this rule. But those are not what im talking about it. We make this a rule and anytime someone dies thru smoke their going to be in teamspeak crying Link to comment
Obu Obu Obu Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 You heard it here boys. Sit on the canister you can't be punished 😂😂 Link to comment
CRH Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Patato said: You have to understand from an administrative perspective this is a nightmare to enforce. And yes obviously their are very blatant cases and probably a small subset of people abusing this rule. But those are not what im talking about it. We make this a rule and anytime someone dies thru smoke their going to be in teamspeak crying Remove ifrit smokes then till it gets fixed. It's completely game breaking and so far the only things I can think of then would be to remove ifrit smokes until it gets figured out. Spectate a days worth of fights and see how many times it gets abused. It's practically every fight nowadays Link to comment
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