Mitch (IFRIT) Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hello all, I was asked by APD leadership about the possibility of adding a new vehicle to be used during federal events. We are seeing issues with many officers not quite making it to the fight. This vehicle would be used to help transport officers to key positions to contest the robbery etc. Only a Captain would be able to pull it and once it's used at a fight they would not be able to bring another one. I have concerns that if it falls into the hands of Civs that havoc will be caused with it. The windows can be penetrated with 7.62, the body with .50 cal and the tires shot out with most weapons (?).There are small windows at the front and the back, and a few on the side. It holds a total of 10 people. it has a top speed of 108 km/h. When Officers dismount they are discharged at the rear of the vehicle. I tried to push a bank today with it and while pushing the main building someone was able to shoot me down to 2% health. What are your thoughts or concerns on this? Please understand that this isn't some guaranteed to happen. Just looking into it and thinking it over. Yuki Hayami, Ethan Darrell, Niklaus and 1 other like this Link to comment
matthew666 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 +1 went up against it too op for civs but perfect for helping cops with larger groups of rebels doing banks Yuki Hayami, DAK and Junke like this Link to comment
... Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Nothing like adding something that only a handful of players can ever use. Make it an expensive Lt.+ vehicle. TNT, Samperino, Tarro and 13 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) seems fair enough, considering how little see the capt on wouldn't be all that common anyways plus it's not that hard to counter it Edited December 30, 2020 by MysticLion Yuki Hayami, Romaniac and Mr.Purple like this Link to comment
John Lemmon Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 This would be the most OP thing ever if being added. Considering its only captains too which means its gonna 15+ cops online anyways. Please tell me this is a joke Samperino, KingOfNarniaa, Nicolas March and 9 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) it's really not that op it's actually easy to deal with it slow as shit and easy to disable Edited December 30, 2020 by MysticLion Bherky and Yuki Hayami like this Link to comment
Parzah Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 gang did a bank against it almost ripped him out of it lmao its not that op Link to comment
John Lemmon Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, MysticLion said: it's really not that op it's actually easy to deal with it Alright explain to me how you counter it. And @Mitch (IFRIT)please come do one federal event with us whenever its a captain online, you will understand that this shit sounds dumb as fuck Samperino and Yuki Hayami like this Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 while you're at it, give them the ability to teleport Roice, Panda, TNT and 10 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1) rarely going see it 2)easy to shoot out guy / easy shoot out tires 3) guys get out of back so just kill them as they drop 4) rpg the shit Bherky, Mr.Purple and Yuki Hayami like this Link to comment
Mitch (IFRIT) Posted December 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, John Lemmon said: Alright explain to me how you counter it. And @Mitch (IFRIT)please come do one federal event with us whenever its a captain online, you will understand that this shit sounds dumb as fuck 7.62 rips through the windows. Almost got tapped out of it on my way to bank. 2 percent. Wheels can get shot to stop it Just now, Mitch (IFRIT) said: 7.62 rips through the windows. Almost got tapped out of it on my way to bank. 2 percent. Wheels can get shot to stop it 50 cal also rips through the armor A vest, speed bomb Junke, Yuki Hayami and MysticLion like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Add it and lower rpgs to 100k rather then 150k easy best part is the thing is only for events so most you pistol bangs don't even have to worry about it Edited December 30, 2020 by MysticLion Blake. and Yuki Hayami like this Link to comment
John Lemmon Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, MysticLion said: Add it and lower rpgs to 100k rather then 150k easy Do us a favor and shut the fuck up holy shit the responds on this shit is tilting me Good Lub, Samperino, Walt and 2 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) LEave if you don't wanna read the post lol Awww you mad??? go back to pistol banging kiddo Edited December 30, 2020 by MysticLion Bherky likes this Link to comment
Mr.Purple Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 The things a legit driving trash can just add it Link to comment
Evaluable Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bag said: while you're at it, give them the ability to teleport Maybe when the patch nerfing Farmersville comes out it will MysticLion likes this Link to comment
... Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Didn't last long against Farmersville Enzo Ajax, John Oasis, Farmer Steve and 14 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) exactly if pistol bangers who rarely come out of the houses can do it pretty sure anyone can Edited December 30, 2020 by MysticLion • B A R K I N • likes this Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, MysticLion said: exactly if pistol bangers who rarely come out of the houses can do it pretty sure anyone can shut up fatass, you're in drunksquad 王 Ari Petrou 王, EthanS, Tyrone Darnell and 3 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Bag said: shut up fatass, you're in drunksquad you're in Farmersville, please don't talk about gangs kap Link to comment
Junke Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) If cops get madrids i think then evidence can maybe be fixed a little. You have to wait for 10 cops twice. I get how initially you need 10 cops but after you shut down the defenses you need to wait for 10 cops again and by then the cops have already rage quit. If Madrids are added i think that the amount of cops on for that second part of evidence should be either removed or lessened. Edited December 30, 2020 by Junker Rycheee likes this Link to comment
Yuki Hayami Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, MysticLion said: Add it and lower rpgs to 100k rather then 150k easy best part is the thing is only for events so most you pistol bangs don't even have to worry about it Drop Rpgs to 80k and make it LT plus Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Yuki Hayami said: Drop Rpgs to 80k and make it LT plus we don't need broke people buying RPGS so nah 100k seems fine Yuki Hayami likes this Link to comment
Leady Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Adding some info about the Marid from our testing and the Cpts reasons behind their request: 10 Crew total - 1 Driver, 1 Commander, 8 Passengers. Driver/Command disembark via their respective sides. 8 Passengers all exit at the rear door. 6 Tires - 1.5 Mags of 6.5+ to Destroy wheel, .5 mag of 6.5+ to deflate. Wheels are fairly weak and hitting any obstacle at half speed or greater (IE: chicken wire fence, tree, wall ect.) will break the wheels. Ballistic Info - 7.62 Does not pen armored sides. 7.62 Does pen glass view panels on front and rear of the vehicle 1-2 shots to break glass (These windows are small, front view ports are best shot thru at elevated angle). 1 RPG to front to blow up, 2 RPG rounds to sides/rear to blow up. .50 Cal fully pen's all parts of vehicle. Top speed - 108kph (very slow acceleration) Armor V Armor - When hitting from the side/front panel wheels often are destroyed. Marid is also very top heavy and prone to rolling. Avoid the direct front and all of the rear when ramming. Turret removed (obv) Proposed Cost - $80,000 (Destroy/Chop Value would be $40,000) , Limited to Cpt Rules of engagement - Could only be pulled for Federal Events, This is not a first push vehicle. Would be used after a situation was assessed and determined greater armor is needed in-order to engage. Likely would only see this used at Bank and Prison. Too slow and not maneuverable enough for Lockup or Shipping Robbery. Federal Reserve could have it's uses but would be rarer than Bank/Prison. The Cpts goal for adding this vehicle would be in situations where they are outgunned to be able to actually deliver officers to CQC areas. IE: not getting 1-2 shot out of the current armored vehicles apd has access to. Nickname : The Doom Turtle Stolas, MysticLion, DarkKnight and 4 others like this Link to comment
danile666 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 51 minutes ago, Mitch (IFRIT) said: Hello all, I was asked by APD leadership about the possibility of adding a new vehicle to be used during federal events. We are seeing issues with many officers not quite making it to the fight. This vehicle would be used to help transport officers to key positions to contest the robbery etc. Only a Captain would be able to pull it and once it's used at a fight they would not be able to bring another one. I have concerns that if it falls into the hands of Civs that havoc will be caused with it. The windows can be penetrated with 7.62, the body with .50 cal and the tires shot out with most weapons (?).There are small windows at the front and the back, and a few on the side. It holds a total of 10 people. it has a top speed of 108 km/h. When Officers dismount they are discharged at the rear of the vehicle. I tried to push a bank today with it and while pushing the main building someone was able to shoot me down to 2% health. What are your thoughts or concerns on this? Please understand that this isn't some guaranteed to happen. Just looking into it and thinking it over. So this thing is honestly just a transport vehicle. It is so weak that it only serves to get people from point A to point B. Literally every piece of armor disables it in armor V armor. There is literally nothing a Civ can do with it that will cause any issues. Haven't seen a single legitimate concern about this being brought in. Just salty people not wanting more stuff for cops. Yuki Hayami and MysticLion like this Link to comment
John Lemmon Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Leady said: Adding some info about the Marid from our testing and the Cpts reasons behind their request: 10 Crew total - 1 Driver, 1 Commander, 8 Passengers. Driver/Command disembark via their respective sides. 8 Passengers all exit at the rear door. 6 Tires - 1.5 Mags of 6.5+ to Destroy wheel, .5 mag of 6.5+ to deflate. Wheels are fairly weak and hitting any obstacle at half speed or greater (IE: chicken wire fence, tree, wall ect.) will break the wheels. Ballistic Info - 7.62 Does not pen armored sides. 7.62 Does pen glass view panels on front and rear of the vehicle 1-2 shots to break glass (These windows are small, front view ports are best shot thru at elevated angle). 1 RPG to front to blow up, 2 RPG rounds to sides/rear to blow up. .50 Cal fully pen's all parts of vehicle. Top speed - 108kph (very slow acceleration) Armor V Armor - When hitting from the side/front panel wheels often are destroyed. Marid is also very top heavy and prone to rolling. Avoid the direct front and all of the rear when ramming. Turret removed (obv) Proposed Cost - $80,000 (Destroy/Chop Value would be $40,000) , Limited to Cpt Rules of engagement - Could only be pulled for Federal Events, This is not a first push vehicle. Would be used after a situation was assessed and determined greater armor is needed in-order to engage. Likely would only see this used at Bank and Prison. Too slow and not maneuverable enough for Lockup or Shipping Robbery. Federal Reserve could have it's uses but would be rarer than Bank/Prison. The Cpts goal for adding this vehicle would be in situations where they are outgunned to be able to actually deliver officers to CQC areas. IE: not getting 1-2 shot out of the current armored vehicles apd has access to. Nickname : The Doom Turtle You are making rules for the captains, that doesnt need to obey the cop rules? nice makes sense Good Lub, Copa, smellypig and 2 others like this Link to comment
MysticLion Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John Lemmon said: You are making rules for the captains, that doesnt need to obey the cop rules? nice makes sense Why don't you go back to crying rather then talking crap that you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, like read what's being put Edited December 30, 2020 by MysticLion Yuki Hayami likes this Link to comment
Leady Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, John Lemmon said: You are making rules for the captains, that doesnt need to obey the cop rules? nice makes sense As the first sentence states: "Cpts reasons behind their requests" These are their own guidelines/reasons they've proposed for the vehicles use. Yuki Hayami likes this Link to comment
Peterr Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) LEGENDGreen = HullOrange = EngineViolet = Fuel tanks Edited December 30, 2020 by Peterr Ethan Darrell and Yuki Hayami like this Link to comment
Yuki Hayami Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Leady said: As the first sentence states: "Cpts reasons behind their requests" These are their own guidelines/reasons they've proposed for the vehicles use. Swat could use a buff of something kinda like this ngl. Link to comment
John Lemmon Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 https://gyazo.com/3f8e5e9b438c17b7fa2df0f9e8a371a9 Space, Good Lub, goyney and 3 others like this Link to comment
matthew666 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yuki Hayami said: Swat could use a buff of something kinda like this ngl. bull shit Link to comment
Parzah Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Yuki Hayami said: Swat could use a buff of something kinda like this ngl. Swat already gets MK no thanks Link to comment
Rake Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, John Lemmon said: https://gyazo.com/3f8e5e9b438c17b7fa2df0f9e8a371a9 sheeeeesh Ethan Darrell likes this Link to comment
Yuki Hayami Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Parzah said: Swat already gets MK no thanks Just now, Qwintyyyy said: bull shit why dont you guys both get whitelisted for cop then swat whitelisted then talk if swat needs a buff or not. Thanks. Link to comment
Ethan Darrell Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, John Lemmon said: https://gyazo.com/3f8e5e9b438c17b7fa2df0f9e8a371a9 So much for being able to be penetrated by a 50 cal... Rake, Romaniac, Space and 1 other like this Link to comment
Leady Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Yuki Hayami said: Swat could use a buff of something kinda like this ngl. Don't Disagree. There were ideas that post testing, which would of been cpt only that it might get moved to swat or other ranks. It would have to thoroughly tested before that was to happen though. Yuki Hayami likes this Link to comment
Yuki Hayami Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Leady said: Don't Disagree. There were ideas that post testing, which would of been cpt only that it might get moved to swat or other ranks. please do. We swat whitelists get one life at fed events. We cant buy mags for half our guns (Which i made a report on 2 months ago and havent heard anything back on) WE need something better then the hunter or strider that we get one tapped out of constantly. Along with shipping robberies. We get swat then only have it for 10 minutes during that event. Link to comment
John Lemmon Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Decent when decamping too https://gyazo.com/69a2d2a84ff1dc63722b0d2b105cf61b Space, Bag Of Funyuns, Rake and 3 others like this Link to comment
Master27411 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yuki Hayami said: please do. We swat whitelists get one life at fed events. We cant buy mags for half our guns (Which i made a report on 2 months ago and havent heard anything back on) WE need something better then the hunter or strider that we get one tapped out of constantly. Along with shipping robberies. We get swat then only have it for 10 minutes during that event. In my opinion I think the hunter and strider are fine for swat. I don't think most officers know how to push with armor. matthew666 and Yuki Hayami like this Link to comment
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