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Saul x

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Recently I have started to notice on how cops behave on domination, the problem being lets say x gang is currently winning and holding one cap and 3 other caps being held by gangs that have lower points in total, most common case is for cops to just go slam whichever cap they feel comfortable with and therefore most of the times just letting the gang with highest points keep sitting on a cap for free unless rebels decide to slam, but when they do that cops will choose to go back cap the cap that the other gang has left. I find this frustrating and I dont not know if there is an agenda for cops to actively go for the gang with highest points to slow down the dom and make it more interesting, maybe they do not slam because they do not have to or do not find it fun/kd warriors do not want to ruin their kd by mindlessly slamming the same cap over and over, if im wrong please do give feedback.

Maybe if we provided some sort of incentives like if cops hold a hard point/defuse/deliver the ctf they all get to have a special weapon for one life such as .50 mag or a ghosthawk, these are just suggestions and does not have to be what I say, but I definately think it would provide a bit more dynamic to the server as I feel cops just dont have any incentive to try hard and get no rewards for playing.

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The people who play SRT aren’t technically focusing anyone. We only get paid if we uncap or the small amount you get from a kill. So at the end of the day if they look at the caps and see a gang that looks like it’ll be easy to uncap more than likely going to go for the easy money rather than slamming a better gang. 

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1. The majority of cops don’t even have 7.62 unlocked so they are already at a disadvantage fighting rebels

2. When they do go fight rebels they tend to lose more than they would gain due to the fact that they only get about 1000 per kill

Suggestions: Increase the payout to be 2.5k (2kills breaks even for your kit)

uncapping hotzone gets everyone in the APD 50k instead of 20k

capturing the flag for the APD gets everyone 75k

Bomb defuse for the APD gets everyone 75k

Also decrease the time it takes to uncap a flag. It should be the same amount of time to cap it than uncap it

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2 hours ago, Austin M said:

The people who play SRT aren’t technically focusing anyone. We only get paid if we uncap or the small amount you get from a kill. So at the end of the day if they look at the caps and see a gang that looks like it’ll be easy to uncap more than likely going to go for the easy money rather than slamming a better gang. 

 

1 hour ago, Vash said:

Never once saw SRT players specifically target a gang. Most of the times we go for the least busy cap so we can uncap it and go to the next one.

Isnt that sort of the problem if cops uncap a not busy cap then what was the point? Cops just sort of hover about and try to pick easy fights so there needs to be incentive for them to slow down the dom and target people with more points imo.

31 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

1. The majority of cops don’t even have 7.62 unlocked so they are already at a disadvantage fighting rebels

2. When they do go fight rebels they tend to lose more than they would gain due to the fact that they only get about 1000 per kill

Suggestions: Increase the payout to be 2.5k (2kills breaks even for your kit)

uncapping hotzone gets everyone in the APD 50k instead of 20k

capturing the flag for the APD gets everyone 75k

Bomb defuse for the APD gets everyone 75k

Also decrease the time it takes to uncap a flag. It should be the same amount of time to cap it than uncap it

I think cops need to be given money regardless for example if they play for 30 mins they get a base 100k anything else after like caps etc is extra. Because  realistically people are not short on money if they are playing domination, everyone i know has quite a bit and having special weapons or vehicles for cops to fight in would make it more fun apart from lets fight dom make a bit of money and thats it, over time it gets dull if nothing new to combat is added apart from money incentives. make it fun to fight 

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Austin M

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When I play dom it’s 100% for the money.

We also get 50k for playing dom for 30 minutes. Maybe with the addition of csats finally being available on dom for SRT. Possibly you may see an increase in attempting to fight better gangs. 
 

as before we only had a level 3 vest. The risk vs reward wasn’t worth it. We have cheap load outs with 5k per death and 2k to pull a vehicle. But getting 1 tapped because of lack of armor made things difficult.


Also this topic might’ve been better suited in the server suggestion topic. This topic is generally geared more to policy change suggestions. The APD as a whole tries to steer away from governing anything going on for SRT, yes there are policies for it but those are very limited.

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4 minutes ago, Austin M said:

When I play dom it’s 100% for the money.

We also get 50k for playing dom for 30 minutes. Maybe with the addition of csats finally being available on dom for SRT. Possibly you may see an increase in attempting to fight better gangs. 
 

as before we only had a level 3 vest. The risk vs reward wasn’t worth it. We have cheap load outs with 5k per death and 2k to pull a vehicle. But getting 1 tapped because of lack of armor made things difficult.


Also this topic might’ve been better suited in the server suggestion topic. This topic is generally geared more to policy change suggestions. The APD as a whole tries to steer away from governing anything going on for SRT, yes there are policies for it but those are very limited.

I understand that police have a disadvantage and hopefully it will be bridged as its a hit or miss when police play sometimes 0 ppl hop on sometimes its 8, but it should be made that police loadouts are cheap as chips because even if police try really hard uncapping flags it doesnt bring them any benefit apart from getting back a loadout, you dont get a share of the prize pool and should therefore be reworked imo, because police on other servers server a purpose of slowing down the domination and hindering the current winning team which allows for some breathing room and smaller gangs to try and come back because police are just slamming and targeting the current leading gang, because if your a small gang just trying to make some money most of the times they would be slammed by police as they are seen as easier to take instead of the top gang.

 

and also mb for posting this in apd suggestions it does involve but as this conversation is discussed more its clear to see that its something that would have to talked with devs and management to be rehauled if it gets to that stage so if an admin could move it to the correct section ill give you a kiss

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22 hours ago, KrazyKnight said:

@killer11

I have been called and I am here to assist .
@VashEvery second dom I have played the SRT targted a gang , its either KGB ( @P.FitzWallace ) or redmantion ( idk how to spell ) cuz they annoy us .
It is true tho that the SRT wont go after lead gang cuz why get rekt when you can get the free money ? the risk to reward ratio doesnt worth it add to that the most SRT are out gunned and no pilot covs then ofc we will target the free money , also tbh I dont think you can balance it cuz SRT can already make really good money when has the right roaster .
If you want the game to slow down go fight the lead gang and take their point the SRT is there to rat everybody not take the hard fight for you ...

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5 minutes ago, Lex said:

yeah if any admins ever watch dom people like @Kingtell people to go for caps and he targets the lower points or less people caps kinda sad he was on every cap we went to today didn't see them uncap one point from a dominating group

Also whats with the ifrit tire drops at 40km how is this allowed? @Ronald@Akula@Mayhem

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49 minutes ago, Lex said:

yeah if any admins ever watch dom people like @Kingtell people to go for caps and he targets the lower points or less people caps kinda sad he was on every cap we went to today didn't see them uncap one point from a dominating group

Also whats with the ifrit tire drops at 40km how is this allowed? @Ronald@Akula@Mayhem

Few things here,

1.  I was not even in ts with the other SRT members today so they all did what they want as they are allowed to do that, plus this was the second dom I played in the past 2 months as SRT so idk why you're going after me here.

2.  I can count the number of times I went to your caps on one hand, sorry if it felt like I was whooping you guys that bad every time I did show up, I was at the other caps way more than yours.

3.  Dropping out of your ifrit at 40km/h is very easy to do and almost everyone knows you can do this, the only thing not allowed is print screen back tire dropping.

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31 minutes ago, King said:

Few things here,

1.  I was not even in ts with the other SRT members today so they all did what they want as they are allowed to do that, plus this was the second dom I played in the past 2 months as SRT so idk why you're going after me here.

2.  I can count the number of times I went to your caps on one hand, sorry if it felt like I was whooping you guys that bad every time I did show up, I was at the other caps way more than yours.

3.  Dropping out of your ifrit at 40km/h is very easy to do and almost everyone knows you can do this, the only thing not allowed is print screen back tire dropping.

interesting. lmfao

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1 hour ago, King said:

Few things here,

1.  I was not even in ts with the other SRT members today so they all did what they want as they are allowed to do that, plus this was the second dom I played in the past 2 months as SRT so idk why you're going after me here.

2.  I can count the number of times I went to your caps on one hand, sorry if it felt like I was whooping you guys that bad every time I did show up, I was at the other caps way more than yours.

3.  Dropping out of your ifrit at 40km/h is very easy to do and almost everyone knows you can do this, the only thing not allowed is print screen back tire dropping.

Dropping out of your ifrit at 40km/h is very easy to do and almost everyone knows you can do this, the only thing not allowed is print screen back tire dropping.

We all have played against NSF and EV and other sus gangs n they don't even do that shit its only been done to me by a select group of ppl and i don't think i have ever seen you once do it king iv seen you spangled yourself going 10km/h tho but again sounds good to me.

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every time I've ever attempted to drop out of a vehicle at those speeds and don't get spangled I at least get legged so tell me how these people like @DEMI ROZE ヅand his gang of cheaters like @Zencan do it consistently and be fair to other players I already know the response from both of these mongs will be "skill issue" even know demi is a past cheater 🙂 so please have one of them provide a clip on how this is done for all of "everyone" from @King as he says everyone knows 

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1 hour ago, Lex said:

every time I've ever attempted to drop out of a vehicle at those speeds and don't get spangled I at least get legged so tell me how these people like @DEMI ROZE ヅand his gang of cheaters like @Zencan do it consistently and be fair to other players I already know the response from both of these mongs will be "skill issue" even know demi is a past cheater 🙂 so please have one of them provide a clip on how this is done for all of "everyone" from @King as he says everyone knows 

 

@ImShy This that ifritdrop.dll file?

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