Simplification of TeamSpeak Tagging System

[Feenix]

I wanted to raise a concern regarding the current state of our TeamSpeak platform. While I appreciate the return of Asylum and the inclusion of retired cops with tags, team members, etc... I find the current tagging system overly excessive. While it's valuable to acknowledge retired officers, the high number of these tags is causing clutter and may inadvertently overshadow the recognition of current and new achieving officers' ranks.

The abundance of tags makes it challenging to quickly identify the chain of command, which was straight-forward and less dense. As the primary use of TeamSpeak is for the APD, I suggest prioritizing APD-related tags to streamline communication and improve efficiency. 

I believe revisiting this policy will contribute to a more streamlined and effective use of our TeamSpeak platform.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

Examples of Cluttered Tags:

[Support] [Wiki Curator] [Wiki Editor] [EMR] [EMT] [Retired "X"] [Designer] 

[Lead Developer] [Developer] Why are there two developer tags? Is there that much of a difference or justification? 

Regards

[Reapered]

But how else will we know their life’s greatest accomplishment?

[Fried Rice]

The primary use of our TeamSpeak is communication. Both the APD and AFD use it while playing the game. Staff uses it for an abundance of reasons. None of the "cluttered tags" are clutter. They all signify a role that someone is in. 

[Alex.]

It aint hard to read man.

[goyney]

Of all the things you could cry about, it’s teamspeak tags? Who gives a shit?

[HomeTrlx]

Bro what? Doesnt look cluttered to me? Maybe your brain cannot proccess this?

[Feenix]

Holy shit - Why are all of you bashing a suggestion lol?

[Feenix]

The reason I made this post is to help newcomers to the game who might be confused when they see TeamSpeak and are unsure of the chain of command. Changing permissions is simple, but did I really upset people over a TeamSpeak tag? Yes, it can get cluttered. How can you argue it isn't cluttered when it's just an application for a gaming tag that invokes a tag for each respective category. There hasn't been a request for tag removal either; you can simply edit what goes in front of a user's name and the weight it holds in TeamSpeak. I'm sorry if you feel confined by your authority being reflected in a TeamSpeak tag, and I understand it can affect gameplay.

"It ain't that hard to read," @Alex. Please explain to a new player who holds the highest command in a TeamSpeak with 12 cops, each with various tags. That's the point being made.

Is Support higher than Lieutenant?

Is Wiki Curator lower than Support?

Is Wiki Curator higher than Lieutenant?

[SNOOOP]

59 minutes ago, Feenix said:

That's the point being made.

Is Support higher than Lieutenant?

Is Wiki Curator lower than Support?

Is Wiki Curator higher than Lieutenant?

i dont understand your last part what does "is support higher than Lieutenant" have to do with anything these are 2 different roles that are both required to identify a certain role support has nothing to do with the APD is holds No rank along with wiki curator and if someone is putting in work to make things/fix in the server i bet they want a tag so ppl can see whos doing what.

@Alex. Your a mexican dont talk about it aint hard to read best thing you know how to do is jump over walls

Edited July 5, 2024 by SNOOOP

[Alex.]

23 minutes ago, SNOOOP said:

i dont understand your last part what does "is support higher than Lieutenant" have to do with anything these are 2 different roles that are both required to identify a certain role support has nothing to do with the APD is holds No rank along with wiki curator and if someone is putting in work to make things/fix in the server i bet they want a tag so ppl can see whos doing what.

@Alex. Your a mexican dont talk about it aint hard to read best thing you know how to do is jump over walls

Go make some empanadas you dumb puerto rican

[Mitch]

4 hours ago, Feenix said:

The reason I made this post is to help newcomers to the game who might be confused when they see TeamSpeak and are unsure of the chain of command. Changing permissions is simple, but did I really upset people over a TeamSpeak tag? Yes, it can get cluttered. How can you argue it isn't cluttered when it's just an application for a gaming tag that invokes a tag for each respective category. There hasn't been a request for tag removal either; you can simply edit what goes in front of a user's name and the weight it holds in TeamSpeak. I'm sorry if you feel confined by your authority being reflected in a TeamSpeak tag, and I understand it can affect gameplay.

"It ain't that hard to read," @Alex. Please explain to a new player who holds the highest command in a TeamSpeak with 12 cops, each with various tags. That's the point being made.

Is Support higher than Lieutenant?

Is Wiki Curator lower than Support?

Is Wiki Curator higher than Lieutenant?

Are you a cop? the highest ranking officer there is based solely on their cop rank in order from highest to lowest: Captain, Lieutenant, Sergeant, Corporal, Constable, Cadet
I don't see what someone's other roles within the community have to do with your question? I hope if you are whitelisted as a cop you know the chain of command(you are required to know this before being whitelisted) and that support and wiki curator have nothing to do with the APD.

The teamspeak is for the entire server, not just the APD. therefore its important that server staff (support, admin, developers etc) can be recognized in the TS

To answer your questions literally
Is Support higher than Lieutenant?
- Is support a cop rank? no? then one isn't higher than the other

Is Wiki Curator lower than Support?
- Is it lower on the list than support? yes? well looks like Wiki Curator is a lower server "staff" rank than Support

Is Wiki Curator higher than Lieutenant?
- Again just like Support its not a cop rank so has no impact on chain of command

The "confusing" situations you are describing are result of people holding multiple ranks within the community
someone can be a Lieutenant but also be admin, this will inherently put them above a captain since they hold a higher rank in the community as a whole as server staff. but that doesn't change the fact that regarding the chain of command they are still just a Lieutenant.

[Feenix]

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6 hours ago, Mitch said:

Are you a cop? the highest ranking officer there is based solely on their cop rank in order from highest to lowest: Captain, Lieutenant, Sergeant, Corporal, Constable, Cadet
I don't see what someone's other roles within the community have to do with your question? I hope if you are whitelisted as a cop you know the chain of command(you are required to know this before being whitelisted) and that support and wiki curator have nothing to do with the APD.

The question 'Are you a cop?' on the APD suggestion forum seems dismissive, especially coming from a Developer, whose role and authority are evident from their TeamSpeak tags. Wait I apologize is it "Lead Developer"? Because there seems to be a hierarchy to that too. 

I appreciate your response tho, but it seems there might be a misunderstanding. My concern isn't just about the APD hierarchy; it's about the overall clarity and organization of our community's TeamSpeak. This impacts everyone, including newcomers who may find it confusing. I merely suggested APD should have priority, which can be a bad suggestion/opinion depending on your perspective which I can understand. I can also argue, captains should remain at the top aside from Admins or CM's but I see that is not in favor of the individuals who put effort into the community. 

While roles like Support and Wiki Curator may not align directly with police ranks, they play crucial roles in our community which I understand. But, clear identification on TeamSpeak helps everyone, new and old, navigate effectively. As someone in a leadership position like yourself, ensuring clarity benefits us all.

I wouldn't have made this post if I hadn't had to explain this to two separate cadets. Maybe next time, instead of me having to explain it, you could just tell them their 'your brains can't process it.' Real helpful, stay retired man!  @HomeTrlx 

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[Jr4life24]

9 hours ago, Feenix said:

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The question 'Are you a cop?' on the APD suggestion forum seems dismissive, especially coming from a Developer, whose role and authority are evident from their TeamSpeak tags. Wait I apologize is it "Lead Developer"? Because there seems to be a hierarchy to that too. 

I appreciate your response tho, but it seems there might be a misunderstanding. My concern isn't just about the APD hierarchy; it's about the overall clarity and organization of our community's TeamSpeak. This impacts everyone, including newcomers who may find it confusing. I merely suggested APD should have priority, which can be a bad suggestion/opinion depending on your perspective which I can understand. I can also argue, captains should remain at the top aside from Admins or CM's but I see that is not in favor of the individuals who put effort into the community. 

While roles like Support and Wiki Curator may not align directly with police ranks, they play crucial roles in our community which I understand. But, clear identification on TeamSpeak helps everyone, new and old, navigate effectively. As someone in a leadership position like yourself, ensuring clarity benefits us all.

I wouldn't have made this post if I hadn't had to explain this to two separate cadets. Maybe next time, instead of me having to explain it, you could just tell them their 'your brains can't process it.' Real helpful, stay retired man!  @HomeTrlx 

So to my understanding, the way the roles work are like this.

Server administration gets priority. (SA/CM) then admin then mod then support.

Then in order, Captain/Chief, LT/Assistant Chief, Sergeant/paramedic etc etc.

Admins have always gotten priority first as they’re deemed a higher importance than the whitelisted staff ranks for AFD/APD so it definitely makes it confusing but I don’t think it’s something that’s going to change