group limit

[Sikorsky]

18 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

It can be considered a deterrent but I don't look at it that way. As I said before it's there to be a thorn in your side while you are spamming feds. I know it won't stop you from doing them but it could allow the cops to win or cause you guys to take a break and go fight a cartel. I say this with respect. Sometimes it seems like you care more about "your" experince then the other players outside of your gang. Think about it for a second. We have had a shit ton of gangs do events since the wipe and your gang is the only one that deals with the hawk. All of the other gangs have regular fights against the cops because they do other things inbetween the fed events. All you guys would have to do is pull back a little bit and none of this would be an issue. Then cops could do what they want and fight you guys at the fed. I won't lie, it has been a battle trying to keep the cops on while you guys fed spam. At the rate you guys are going you might not be able to do them anymore becasue there will be 3 or 4 cops on. I would like to avoid that. As I said before I'm just trying to find some middle ground here. 

"if i cant have fun, no one can" classic darkknight moment

another classic darkknight moment from 6 years ago, stole my orca from bank roof and crashed it the ocean cus he kept losing events! looks like not much has changed

respectfully, ive had mostly positive interactions with you over the years, but you have a history of acting like a crybaby when things dont go your way

Edited August 11, 2024 by Sikorsky

[Infamous [FULL SEND]]

1 minute ago, Sikorsky said:

"if i cant have fun, no one can"

exactly

[王 rando 王]

4 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

I feel like I could argue the same for you too, because you've constantly been pushing buffs for the APD while never pushing anything of the sort for rebels. To some extent you also care more about the APD's experience than ours. The difference is you actually have the power and ability to make a difference in our experiences, while we're hopeless in terms of power. You put you and the APD's interests above ours, we're just putting them right back at the same level.

we're playing the game the way the game lets us play it. you're a CM why dont you push for a change so that this isnt such an issue; so we dont get the blame for making APD log off for just playing the game the way im allowed to.

see and thats why i said he should of been chief of police.

[Louie]

14 minutes ago, Sikorsky said:

but you have a history of acting like a crybaby when things dont go your way

I’m dead rn

[Pizza Man]

Seems like just a lack of strategy on the APDs part, there should be no excuse with 18 cops to be pulling out ghost hawk. There is just a lack of leadership, no innovation, no coordination. You could spike the gates for a change, bench snipe, back your ifrit over h-barrier, van all jump spots, grenade launch smoke grenades, ifrit/strider smoke a gate and let people unlock and push, hot drop orca behind northeast building. Cops log off regardless of if they win or lose the fed events, they literally see bank channel get full then log in just for the event. Y'all are saying "why would cops push fed with default loadout" and complain at the same time that cops were getting downed with a civ spar... the server is designed that cops have every advantage, air HQ is less than 800 meters from fed, free guns, free level 2 armor, spike strips, swat level 2 helmets, swat vehicles, swat mk1, medic slots, restraints that instantly take someone out of the fight for duration of the event...

[APD captain gape horne]

6 minutes ago, Pizza Man said:

Seems like just a lack of strategy on the APDs part, there should be no excuse with 18 cops to be pulling out ghost hawk. There is just a lack of leadership, no innovation, no coordination. You could spike the gates for a change, bench snipe, back your ifrit over h-barrier, van all jump spots, grenade launch smoke grenades, ifrit/strider smoke a gate and let people unlock and push, hot drop orca behind northeast building. Cops log off regardless of if they win or lose the fed events, they literally see bank channel get full then log in just for the event. Y'all are saying "why would cops push fed with default loadout" and complain at the same time that cops were getting downed with a civ spar... the server is designed that cops have every advantage, air HQ is less than 800 meters from fed, free guns, free level 2 armor, spike strips, swat level 2 helmets, swat vehicles, swat mk1, medic slots, restraints that instantly take someone out of the fight for duration of the event...

spittin rn 100 💯

[Infamous [FULL SEND]]

5 minutes ago, Pizza Man said:

Seems like just a lack of strategy on the APDs part, there should be no excuse with 18 cops to be pulling out ghost hawk. There is just a lack of leadership, no innovation, no coordination. You could spike the gates for a change, bench snipe, back your ifrit over h-barrier, van all jump spots, grenade launch smoke grenades, ifrit/strider smoke a gate and let people unlock and push, hot drop orca behind northeast building. Cops log off regardless of if they win or lose the fed events, they literally see bank channel get full then log in just for the event. Y'all are saying "why would cops push fed with default loadout" and complain at the same time that cops were getting downed with a civ spar... the server is designed that cops have every advantage, air HQ is less than 800 meters from fed, free guns, free level 2 armor, spike strips, swat level 2 helmets, swat vehicles, swat mk1, medic slots, restraints that instantly take someone out of the fight for duration of the event...

additionally civs can be sent straight to jail for being too heinous (6+ feds or 300k plus bounty) we constantly play one person per gate, imagine if all the cops smoked and pushed south east or jumped in south west it would be a minimum of 5+ vs 1 maybe 2. Pushing a fed really isnt that hard if you just coordinate a little bit and mob on players individually.

[DarkKnight]

32 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

I feel like I could argue the same for you too, because you've constantly been pushing buffs for the APD while never pushing anything of the sort for rebels. To some extent you also care more about the APD's experience than ours. The difference is you actually have the power and ability to make a difference in our experiences, while we're hopeless in terms of power. You put you and the APD's interests above ours, we're just putting them right back at the same level.

we're playing the game the way the game lets us play it. you're a CM why dont you push for a change so that this isnt such an issue; so we dont get the blame for making APD log off for just playing the game the way im allowed to.

What buffs have I pushed for the APD? Since I have been CM I haven't pushed for any. When I first got CM my main focus was to talk to the civs and get feedback from them. The first serveral patchs were almost all civ stuff that the players asked for. It was also me who added all of the temp APD policy changes for the wipe to make sure the civs had a fun experince. I may play a lot of cop. I do it because they always seem to need the help. That doesn't change the fact that I go out of my way to make sure players have a good experience on the server. 

 

32 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

I feel like I could argue the same for you too, because you've constantly been pushing buffs for the APD while never pushing anything of the sort for rebels. To some extent you also care more about the APD's experience than ours. The difference is you actually have the power and ability to make a difference in our experiences, while we're hopeless in terms of power. You put you and the APD's interests above ours, we're just putting them right back at the same level.

we're playing the game the way the game lets us play it. you're a CM why dont you push for a change so that this isnt such an issue; so we dont get the blame for making APD log off for just playing the game the way im allowed to.

I have already told you I'm trying to find middle ground here. Believe it not I care about all of the players. I don't just want to tell the devs to only allow 1 or 2 feds per restart. Conversations like these are how we fix these problems. In my first post I invited anyone to talk to me about any of these issues. I rather talk changes over with the players and not make calls behind closed doors. 

 

31 minutes ago, Sikorsky said:

"if i cant have fun, no one can" classic darkknight moment

another classic darkknight moment from 6 years ago, stole my orca from bank roof and crashed it the ocean cus he kept losing events! looks like not much has changed

respectfully, ive had mostly positive interactions with you over the years, but you have a history of acting like a crybaby when things dont go your way

Did you even read my post lol? It talks about everyone else that is playing on the server. I always have fun at the events. This has nothing to do with me. I also never act salty "when something doesn't go my way". And I need to correct your video. I was not the one who stole your orca. The Admin that I was playing with had the idea to steal your orca after you took ours. It was also his idea to drop it in the water. The only thing I did was messged you guys to see if you wanted to trade helis. I only jumped out when the pilot did because I didn't want to die. I was the passenger not the pilot. I was able to prove that to Bamf and Clint. That is why nothing happened to me. 

 

[APD captain gape horne]

5 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

additionally civs can be sent straight to jail for being too heinous (6+ feds or 300k plus bounty) we constantly play one person per gate, imagine if all the cops smoked and pushed south east or jumped in south west it would be a minimum of 5+ vs 1 maybe 2. Pushing a fed really isnt that hard if you just coordinate a little bit and mob on players individually.

terrible god awful apd policy btw

[Infamous [FULL SEND]]

16 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

 

What buffs have I pushed for the APD? Since I have been CM I haven't pushed for any. When I first got CM my main focus was to talk to the civs and get feedback from them. The first serveral patchs were almost all civ stuff that the players asked for. It was also me who added all of the temp APD policy changes for the wipe to make sure the civs had a fun experince. I may play a lot of cop. I do it because they always seem to need the help. That doesn't change the fact that I go out of my way to make sure players have a good experience on the server. 

 

in the last 4 years the APD has only been getting stronger i find it hard to believe you havent had any participation in these buffs whether as staff or when you were captain. For example, apd ifrits, cadets counting at .5, apd 50 cal apd ghost hawk apd minigun boat, swat, sending “heinous” players straight to jail. In the last 4 years what have rebels gotten? (more expensive weapons, more expensive rpgs more expensive sui vests, you cant sui vest while in the air, and plenty more things that are nerfing rebels) while im sure you do care about all factions and all playerbases i still think you’re subconsciously biased towards the apd. And while everyone did appreciate the temp policies, that wasnt us rebels getting anything new and it was only temporary. the way i feel about it is it feels like there is no representation for the rebels especially amongst the staff, considering a lot of the staff team were either retired captains or higher ups in the apd. 

 

and to add to all of this a retired captain makes a suggestion post to once again buff the apd

Edited August 11, 2024 by Infamous [FULL SEND]

[Sikorsky]

14 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

What buffs have I pushed for the APD? Since I have been CM I haven't pushed for any.

you've pushed for captain buffs

14 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

Did you even read my post lol? It talks about everyone else that is playing on the server. I always have fun at the events. This has nothing to do with me. I also never act salty "when something doesn't go my way".

your actions contradict your words

14 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

And I need to correct your video. I was not the one who stole your orca. The Admin that I was playing with had the idea to steal your orca after you took ours. It was also his idea to drop it in the water. The only thing I did was messged you guys to see if you wanted to trade helis. I only jumped out when the pilot did because I didn't want to die. I was the passenger not the pilot. I was able to prove that to Bamf and Clint. That is why nothing happened to me. 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Sikorsky

[APD captain gape horne]

1 minute ago, Sikorsky said:

you've pushed for captain buffs

your actions contradict your words

devastating

[DarkKnight]

1 minute ago, Sikorsky said:

you've pushed for captain buffs

your actions contradict your words

That was just me giving Xehons some out of game steam banter. As I said before I'm not the one who stole and dropped the orca in the water. I had it recorded and Bamf and Clint saw it. 

[Maxx__]

3 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

That was just me giving Xehons some out of game steam banter. As I said before I'm not the one who stole and dropped the orca in the water. I had it recorded and Bamf and Clint saw it. 

You are rent free in there head DK, keep up the good work soldier 

[Bustah]

27 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

And I need to correct your video. I was not the one who stole your orca. The Admin that I was playing with had the idea to steal your orca after you took ours. It was also his idea to drop it in the water. The only thing I did was messged you guys to see if you wanted to trade helis. I only jumped out when the pilot did because I didn't want to die. I was the passenger not the pilot. I was able to prove that to Bamf and Clint. That is why nothing happened to me. 

 

 

[DarkKnight]

6 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

in the last 4 years the APD has only been getting stronger i find it hard to believe you havent had any participation in these buffs whether as staff or when you were captain. For example, apd ifrits, cadets counting at .5, apd 50 cal apd ghost hawk apd minigun boat, swat, sending “heinous” players straight to jail. In the last 4 years what have rebels gotten? while im sure you do care about all factions and all playerbases i still think you’re subconsciously biased towards the apd. And while everyone did appreciate the temp policies, that wasnt us rebels getting anything new and it was only temporary. the way i feel about it is it feels like there is no representation for the rebels especially amongst the staff, considering a lot of the staff team were either retired captains or higher ups in the apd.

I did not add the ifrits. It was (Ifrit)Mitch's idea to move the other armor down and add ifrits for LT and Captain. It was also Mitch's idea to add the mini gun boat. At the time it was thought of just being a meme. I did not make the change that made cadets .5 of a cop. To be honest I was never a fan of that. The APD lost 50 cals when I was a Constable and they haven't been added back since. Bada asked me if I wanted 50 cals back and I said no. It was also not my idea to add the ability to arm the ghost hawk. I was already retired for 2 years when that happened. I did not make the heinous player policy either. That was made so a Captain can send someone being very toxic to jail. Once again I was already retired when that was added. I go way back man. I got Captain when Bamf still owned the server. A lot of these changes you don't like were after my time. The last thing I remember asking for that the APD got was the MXSW. I wanted it for SGT plus. It was the owners at the time who made it Captain only. I promise you I am not as pro cop and you think I am. I used to play a lot of civ. I did a lot of fed events and cartels. I always tried to keep both factions in mind when I made changes. 

[Infamous [FULL SEND]]

5 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

I did not add the ifrits. It was (Ifrit)Mitch's idea to move the other armor down and add ifrits for LT and Captain. It was also Mitch's idea to add the mini gun boat. At the time it was thought of just being a meme. I did not make the change that made cadets .5 of a cop. To be honest I was never a fan of that. The APD lost 50 cals when I was a Constable and they haven't been added back since. Bada asked me if I wanted 50 cals back and I said no. It was also not my idea to add the ability to arm the ghost hawk. I was already retired for 2 years when that happened. I did not make the heinous player policy either. That was made so a Captain can send someone being very toxic to jail. Once again I was already retired when that was added. I go way back man. I got Captain when Bamf still owned the server. A lot of these changes you don't like were after my time. The last thing I remember asking for that the APD got was the MXSW. I wanted it for SGT plus. It was the owners at the time who made it Captain only. I promise you I am not as pro cop and you think I am. I used to play a lot of civ. I did a lot of fed events and cartels. I always tried to keep both factions in mind when I made changes. 

maybe not you in specific, but that doesnt change how the apd has been constantly getting buffed over the last 4 years. Tens of buffs, new weapons, new vehicles(as far as getting the marid) new policies that help the apd. So i ask again, what have rebels gotten in terms of a direct buff? because all i can think of are nerfs. No new vehicles no new weapons no new apd polices other than 1 temporary one that helps rebels. In fact the only policy change that i remember that was really good was when bbgreg and rafael made the policy to where captains could only hold the rank for a year along side some other good and rational changes, but that policy was deleted without comment.

Edited August 11, 2024 by Infamous [FULL SEND]

[DarkKnight]

1 minute ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

maybe not you in specific, but that doesnt change how the apd has been constantly getting buffed over the last 4 years. Tens of buffs, new weapons, new vehicles(as far as getting the marid) new policies that help the apd. So i ask again, what have rebels gotten in terms of a direct buff? because all i can think of are nerfs

Well the cops received those buffs because the rebels were very hard to beat. At one point keeping cops on the server was very hard. We would have a full server and 3 cops on because cops were not having fun. Over the years rebels have had a lot of gear, guns, and vehicles. What would you like to see added? As I said before I always welcome feedback. If you think the rebels needs some buffs lets talk it over and maybe we can see some stuff get added. Before the wipe we added a shit ton of strong guns for civ only. I know it didn't work out but at least that shows we are willing to add more for the rebel players. 

[Bustah]

13 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

I did not make the heinous player policy either. That was made so a Captain can send someone being very toxic to jail.

we all know thats not why it was made. why would the requirements be federal events or a bounty? stop playing dumb on every issue.

[DarkKnight]

8 minutes ago, Bustah said:

we all know thats not why it was made. why would the requirements be federal events or a bounty? stop playing dumb on every issue.

I'm not playing dumb at all. I'm just saying these are policies I didn't make. Those are two seperate policies. One is so a Captain can send someone being toxic to jail and the other is for players spamming federal events. 

[Donutkiller]

So much crying and whining its actually comical. I look forward to coming back in a couple hours to see some more

[william]

You boys still crying? Give it up lads

[Chris Peacock]

I wouldn’t mind fighting the ghost hawk if every fed events was made to have something you could do to counter it. The issue is that all the fed events are just so outdated that they were made without the ability of the hawk getting pulled. The example I keep bringing up is the lockup where no matter where you are you can be shot by it. There is no cover to be had. I have no issue fighting the hawk if there is some place I can hide and shoot it from. 
 

 

I have a proposal… unblacklist me for 1 fed event and let me use the miniguns. If I don’t drop atleast 7 kills I’ll never apply for cop again

[APD captain gape horne]

unfunny ass career cops commenting 🤣

[Sikorsky]

7 minutes ago, DarkKnight said:

Well the cops received those buffs because the rebels were very hard to beat. At one point keeping cops on the server was very hard. We would have a full server and 3 cops on because cops were not having fun. Over the years rebels have had a lot of gear, guns, and vehicles. What would you like to see added? As I said before I always welcome feedback. If you think the rebels needs some buffs lets talk it over and maybe we can see some stuff get added. Before the wipe we added a shit ton of strong guns for civ only. I know it didn't work out but at least that shows we are willing to add more for the rebel players.

We don't want buffs, we don't want new gear or vehicles, we want staff to stop giving special treatment to APD

When rebels are losing events, they have to adapt and come up with new ways to counter whatever it is that's causing them to lose, when cops start losing...

I probably missed a few

Also countless buffs in patches, meanwhile civs get only nerfs patch after patch (there have been a few buffs here and there but this is very rare)

[APD captain gape horne]

they not goin anywhere

[Macca394]

 BIG POST  APD LEADERSHIP EXPOSED 

6 minutes ago, Macca394 said:

 BIG POST  APD LEADERSHIP EXPOSED             

 

29 minutes ago, Sikorsky said:

We don't want buffs, we don't want new gear or vehicles, we want staff to stop giving special treatment to APD

When rebels are losing events, they have to adapt and come up with new ways to counter whatever it is that's causing them to lose, when cops start losing...

I probably missed a few

Also countless buffs in patches, meanwhile civs get only nerfs patch after patch (there have been a few buffs here and there but this is very rare)

REALLLLL SPILL REALLLL BIG POST REALLL  EXPOSER TO THE APD LEADERSHIP REAL REAL REAL BONEHEAD REAL 

31 minutes ago, Sikorsky said:

We don't want buffs, we don't want new gear or vehicles, we want staff to stop giving special treatment to APD

When rebels are losing events, they have to adapt and come up with new ways to counter whatever it is that's causing them to lose, when cops start losing...

I probably missed a few

Also countless buffs in patches, meanwhile civs get only nerfs patch after patch (there have been a few buffs here and there but this is very rare)

 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Macca394

[Donutkiller]

1 hour ago, APD captain gape horne said:

unfunny ass career cops commenting 🤣

Whining washed up rebels commenting. Honestly though yall win the majority of the time. When you lose yall get so butt hurt. My rebel to cop time is probably 20:1. Ive been a cartel rat, city rat, and fought feds so much against cops its ridiculous. Rather than whining because you dont know how to lead a helicopter just get better. The only time Id argue cops are OP is fighting them in cities where they can come back with a full kit in a minute. At most feds they can give maybe 2-3 lives before its over. TLDR get gud

[Samperino]

3 hours ago, Pizza Man said:

the server is designed that cops have every advantage

You're smoking crack, cocaine, and meth

[APD captain gape horne]

17 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

Whining washed up rebels commenting. Honestly though yall win the majority of the time. When you lose yall get so butt hurt. My rebel to cop time is probably 20:1. Ive been a cartel rat, city rat, and fought feds so much against cops its ridiculous. Rather than whining because you dont know how to lead a helicopter just get better. The only time Id argue cops are OP is fighting them in cities where they can come back with a full kit in a minute. At most feds they can give maybe 2-3 lives before its over. TLDR get gud

terrible opinion you would have to waterboard me for 7 days and 7 nights to get me to post something like this

[Boris]

DarkKnight just pulled a hawk and gunned down everyone in Kavala.

[Donutkiller]

15 minutes ago, APD captain gape horne said:

terrible opinion you would have to waterboard me for 7 days and 7 nights to get me to post something like this

Great work, you proved what I meant. Whining washed up rebel comment.

[APD captain gape horne]

2 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

Great work, you proved what I meant. Whining washed up rebel comment.

im sure you were just such a rebel back in your day !

you did so many feds and cartels!!!

[John Lemmon]

2 hours ago, Chris Peacock said:

I wouldn’t mind fighting the ghost hawk if every fed events was made to have something you could do to counter it. The issue is that all the fed events are just so outdated that they were made without the ability of the hawk getting pulled. The example I keep bringing up is the lockup where no matter where you are you can be shot by it. There is no cover to be had. I have no issue fighting the hawk if there is some place I can hide and shoot it from. 
 

 

I have a proposal… unblacklist me for 1 fed event and let me use the miniguns. If I don’t drop atleast 7 kills I’ll never apply for cop again

Funny how much you cry hahaha fucking retard

[Donutkiller]

7 minutes ago, APD captain gape horne said:

im sure you were just such a rebel back in your day !

you did so many feds and cartels!!!

You missed the point. Although I’m not surprised, you seem a tad bit brain dead

[Chris Peacock]

5 minutes ago, John Lemmon said:

Funny how much you cry hahaha fucking retard

? Do u even play. Or do you not win enough to get anything pulled against u

Edited August 11, 2024 by Chris Peacock

[Donutkiller]

2 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

? Do u even play. Or do you not win enough to get anything pulled against u

Wait so you acknowledge that you win a lot but you are complaining because you don’t win more than you want?

[APD captain gape horne]

6 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

Wait so you acknowledge that you win a lot but you are complaining because you don’t win more than you want?

sshhh

[Charks]

Its beyond me ur all yappin niqqa, ghost hawk be paper thin anyway takes 1 mag to take it out lmao is what it is, cops for once had an advantage rebels lost end of story lmfao. Hella niqqas crying for no reason like its gonna change something. No one crys if u win a fed event as 12 rebels against 5 cops, it is what it is 

Even Innate crawled out of his shell to be here the scrawny little cunt 

[APD captain gape horne]

i love when people dont have to fight the ghost hawk tell us how easy it is to deal with the ghost hawk 

great take !!

bro its  paper thin just shoot it LOL !!