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58 minutes ago, pan fried said:

that is your first big mistake 90% of your community is loud toxic assholes it is the quit little homos working in the back to get everything they ever wanted that ruined it for everyone else

 

this is your second big mistake coming back with a shitty system that noone wanted back in the day and noone wants now except a silent little minority of braindead retards @Fried Rice

I never vouched for the prestige system to come back, glad to see I live rent free in your miserable little life

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The prestige system has always been one of my pet peeves as well. I've never enjoyed it. I haven't played in like 4 months or more so maybe they have buffed it since I last played.

 

I just remember the grind even for mediocre shit especially for APD and Rebel was like insanely poorly balanced. Like months if not a year+ just to full max one tree for the rebel side.

For the APD side it usually ended up in soft drama over who could turn in contraband or arrests for the exp boost.

These patch notes are cool but prestige and money cap feel like mistakes IMO. I'm also unsure how it will work for housing. Like if you have 10 mil and someone wants to buy a house from you for say 5 mil you just lose that money or don't bother selling?

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Great update overall fellas but I can’t seem to think of any worthy benefits of the prestige system. If anything I feel like people are more likely to find loopholes instead of letting their money go to waste. As well as an increased amount of property hoarding and out of game transactions. If this system is trying to fix the problem of people having too much money, I think we’re going to see the same issues or worse, people losing interest in the server. Not to mention fellas like Leroy who literally do it for status will now have to do even more work for the same outcome or just won’t participate in the new server. Maybe I’m thinking of it too hard and the benefits will outweigh the negative. Hopefully that’s the case and the benefits don’t divide the server even more. Looking forward to seeing it play out. 
 

 

 

let that nigga Leroy hit 1bil before he dies. fuck that system. 

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31 minutes ago, Ahm2d said:

great work but isn't this building modded? i mean the apd's ones i have never seen it in altis before

they embedded a R.A.T. (Remote Access Trojan) into the first V3 mission file. asylum now has control over ever player's PC. and they're going to use this remote access to install mods on everyones behalf. this way no one will be discouraged from installing the mods because they already did it for you.

they're very nice guys.

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9 hours ago, Knight05 said:

The prestige system has always been one of my pet peeves as well. I've never enjoyed it. I haven't played in like 4 months or more so maybe they have buffed it since I last played.

 

I just remember the grind even for mediocre shit especially for APD and Rebel was like insanely poorly balanced. Like months if not a year+ just to full max one tree for the rebel side.

For the APD side it usually ended up in soft drama over who could turn in contraband or arrests for the exp boost.

These patch notes are cool but prestige and money cap feel like mistakes IMO. I'm also unsure how it will work for housing. Like if you have 10 mil and someone wants to buy a house from you for say 5 mil you just lose that money or don't bother selling?

I think you get some valuable stuff at least on the cop side. I agree it takes way too long tho I’ve been trying to push for constables to earn prestige in preparation for getting corporal but it’s falling on deaf ears 

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11 hours ago, pan fried said:

that is your first big mistake 90% of your community is loud toxic assholes it is the quit little homos working in the back to get everything they ever wanted that ruined it for everyone else

 

this is your second big mistake coming back with a shitty system that noone wanted back in the day and noone wants now except a silent little minority of braindead retards @Fried Rice

please hush

fire update. i like how we reiterated that this comeback is much more than content. its gonna take all of us 

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1 hour ago, Maxx__ said:

Are cheaters being unbanned for this "wipe"?

1) Not a wipe, 2) there are no differentiated mandates for unbans, we continue to allow long-term banned players opportunities to return, we have no desire to unban those who have been banned for scripting, cheating, harassment, doxxing, toxicity, etc

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23 hours ago, Fitz said:

 

  • Legacy Earnings Conversion:
    • Any money accumulated in V2 and V3 will automatically be converted to Prestige upon your first interaction with the server.

I can't see why anyone would start over again after you guys let people grind to get their stuff back in V3 just to shut the fucking server down 2 months later and re wipe it. Anyone with interest in Arma life is obviously just going to go to the more polished server that doesn't steal your progression constantly.

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7 minutes ago, Bob Danaloo said:

I can't see why anyone would start over again after you guys let people grind to get their stuff back in V3 just to shut the fucking server down 2 months later and re wipe it. Anyone with interest in Arma life is obviously just going to go to the more polished server that doesn't steal your progression constantly.

It isnt being wiped again

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3 minutes ago, Retro said:

Wasting your time, the player base will be dead in less than a month. Just like v3. There’s no point to going back to v2 without our houses with everything in them. 

As Obi and I have said the wipe was not our idea, but it happened and now we have to work with what we have.  Taking houses away from the people who played “V3” in favor of those who didn’t is not a feasible plan.

Our long term goal is to add additional housing opportunities and reduce the overall dependence and power of certain houses

 

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26 minutes ago, Fitz said:

As Obi and I have said the wipe was not our idea, but it happened and now we have to work with what we have.  Taking houses away from the people who played “V3” in favor of those who didn’t is not a feasible plan.

Our long term goal is to add additional housing opportunities and reduce the overall dependence and power of certain houses

 

so your solution is to restore to the v3 backup where people played for weeks, instead of restoring years worth of housing. The community was told prior to the wipes that there was backups incase we needed to revert and the v3 plan failed. What happened to said backups? 

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32 minutes ago, Despair said:

so your solution is to restore to the v3 backup where people played for weeks, instead of restoring years worth of housing. The community was told prior to the wipes that there was backups incase we needed to revert and the v3 plan failed. What happened to said backups? 

They still have them. They HAVE the power to restore everyones V2 houses and inventory but they choose not to for the reasons fitz mentioned. I disagree with the decision but I also get it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. A house is worth farm more to people than any money they had previously or have now. That being said we technically lose money also because some of us like leroy had huge stacks of cash so we didn't have to farm shit if we didn't want too and now that is essentially gone also.

I hate the prestige system its one of the most unfun aspects of the game/server. I would much rather have money sinks or something than be locked behind some type of prestige system that might force you to do content you don't want to do in order to gain exp to unlock something.  It's hard to have money sinks when shit is constantly changing though.

 

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1 hour ago, Akula said:

It isnt being wiped again

let's be honest here with the new money cap and prestige system it's as good as another wipe arguing against it just makes you look like a liar ...people wanted their money back not another reason to grind :D

you dont want grind? here have some grind! you hate grinding? grinding we give you! -Asylum Jedi Mindtrick Academy Team

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1 hour ago, Knight05 said:

hey HAVE the power to restore everyones V2 houses and inventory but they choose not to for the reasons fitz mentioned. I disagree with the decision but I also get it. Damned if you

 

1 hour ago, Knight05 said:

They still have them. They HAVE the power to restore everyones V2 houses and inventory but they choose not to for the reasons fitz mentioned. I disagree with the decision but I also get it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. A house is worth farm more to people than any money they had previously or have now. That being said we technically lose money also because some of us like leroy had huge stacks of cash so we didn't have to farm shit if we didn't want too and now that is essentially gone also.

I hate the prestige system its one of the most unfun aspects of the game/server. I would much rather have money sinks or something than be locked behind some type of prestige system that might force you to do content you don't want to do in order to gain exp to unlock something.  It's hard to have money sinks when shit is constantly changing though.

 

its honestly sad, great update with a lot of development but this one decision will kill it. @Fitzwe still have a few days, please make the right call here. If not asylum is dead for good. there's no chance of making a v5 post... if you don't respect the long term player base we are cooked. just making this call will bring back many players. hell just give us back two houses of our choice and it will make a huge difference. Some people paid IRL money, (Not me myself) but others for gang sheds, houses etc. Because they expected it to be a realistic long term investment on a game they enjoyed, same as those that spent 1000s of hours checking houses for the right one.... great development and new initiative will not overshadow years of player dedication and work. why would we play here after being disrespected when we can just go to Olympus and spend time grinding out houses. there's literally no incentive you are giving the long term players to continue or compensation. if you guys maybe offered 1mil per house or something along those lines it would be different. but it feels like a "get fucked" situation for a lack of better terms.

 

side note, why arent we talking about the millions players dumped into the token system to unlock the new weapons etc, again you guys are offering no compensation for the past mistakes made by the prior owners. some people were almost 15+ mil plus into that alone from my opinion. I think you guys are looking at things from a staff perspective and not a player perspective, because you don't really have to worry about any of the aforementioned things. 

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At this point, I don’t feel like you guys probably backed up the server correctly and there’s a reason why you won’t give us our houses back because you guys fucked up…. 
 

If I’m wrong, then put this it to a vote with the community because supposedly we are, but it doesn’t seem like it sometimes. So let’s put it to a vote and have the community decide on it! 

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11 hours ago, Fitz said:

Read the whole explanation no one is starting at 0, and we will likely make prestige redeemable

That's cool if it's redeemable for cash. In my defence though, that isn't stated in the patch notes. Apologies if I came off as hostile, converting cash to prestige just sounded like another wipe to me.

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5 hours ago, goyney said:

there's a serious lack of credit to those who put their time into this

luke grinded big time and not even mentioned

A lot of us already recognize the work that luke has done, this was just a patch notes. I'm sure they will give credit when able, there is still tons of work/bugs to do. As well as all of the other designers/developers work that was put into this update.

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