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7 hours ago, massi said:

i was curious cause i remembered that  @Sojobo went to create a FiveM server a couple years ago and right now it's nearly at 600 players wtf

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600 people is actually crazy for a FiveM server, holy shit

I'd like to think that Asylum could have done something similar when it still had a loyal player base

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On 2/18/2025 at 7:43 AM, Fitz said:

Look, A lot of times when I jump into a post it gets derailed, I opted not to respond initially in hopes of getting some good feedback on what people think and what their biggest complaints are.

As I will speak about later this week at the community meeting- we have dropped the ball.  We underestimated the issues the community was facing and failed to address them, not out of malice or lack of interest, we failed to move with the community as it moved, as has been the case for frankly years.  Any goodwill we had as a team has been blown, by a lack of leadership, a rushed and poorly executed wipe and follow through, and again a re-vamp and failed follow through.  We consistently have promised and failed to deliver, so what's next?

All we can do at this point is accept responsibility and try and move forwards, how we do that, when we do that, is dependent on us, the staff team, and the community working together to try and gain traction and move ahead.  Full transparency we had a full staff meeting this past weekend to discuss how best to move forwards and discuss ways that the ownership team can keep-up with the promises we have made, and what the community is asking for, and needs.

We have been telling you as soon as you took ownership that we need to move forward.

Nobody wants to play fucking Arma 3 anymore, at least on this server. The community is too jaded and too many people have abused power. There isn't anything consistent anymore. The updates aren't impressive for today's date. Maybe if it were 2020 still, then sure. The legendary status honestly died when Clint stepped down. Everyone else after were  too prideful to admit that shit was failing.

It would be better to close this sever down at this point than to continue on with the false hope of "change".

 

 

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4 hours ago, HomeTrlx said:

And yet people play on it? Whaaaaaat?! What a shock I know, asylum could dream about this stuff cuz it will never happen.

I'm just saying it would be a lot more fun if you could rob people. I am sticking with asylum, I have tried that server and its fun but very boring really quickly.

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On 2/20/2025 at 2:30 PM, Rocketneo said:

You cant even rob people....

I'm not saying I wanna play a FiveM server where I can't rob people, that would be retarded. I think the main takeaway is the obvious objective fact that with the powerhouse that the best of the Asylum Devs were, we would dominate the FiveM world. I'm currently staff in a small FiveM community and I told them a long time ago our main competition would be an Asylum FIveM server, and frankly it would be hard for me to choose between the two. Even still, Asylum may have very well missed the FiveM bandwagon. If I was a betting man, I'd say they have a far better chance at making something real happen on FiveM over Arma 3. Arma reforger is also on the table for pretty much the exact same reason.

22 hours ago, thero said:

600 people is actually crazy for a FiveM server, holy shit

I'd like to think that Asylum could have done something similar when it still had a loyal player base

Well said, miss you gamer.

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On 2/18/2025 at 5:43 PM, Fitz said:

Look, A lot of times when I jump into a post it gets derailed, I opted not to respond initially in hopes of getting some good feedback on what people think and what their biggest complaints are.

As I will speak about later this week at the community meeting- we have dropped the ball.  We underestimated the issues the community was facing and failed to address them, not out of malice or lack of interest, we failed to move with the community as it moved, as has been the case for frankly years.  Any goodwill we had as a team has been blown, by a lack of leadership, a rushed and poorly executed wipe and follow through, and again a re-vamp and failed follow through.  We consistently have promised and failed to deliver, so what's next?

All we can do at this point is accept responsibility and try and move forwards, how we do that, when we do that, is dependent on us, the staff team, and the community working together to try and gain traction and move ahead.  Full transparency we had a full staff meeting this past weekend to discuss how best to move forwards and discuss ways that the ownership team can keep-up with the promises we have made, and what the community is asking for, and needs.

the only thing you guys can do is start a mission from the scratch with everything new. fixing bugs adding more fed events or changing the buildings will not work it will stay the same pop 5-10. you basically need a new whole server.

On 2/21/2025 at 7:09 AM, thero said:

600 people is actually crazy for a FiveM server, holy shit

I'd like to think that Asylum could have done something similar when it still had a loyal player base

well loyal people gave up after old and new staff and dev actions and commitments a lot of old players left the server when i say a lot means most of them.

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14 hours ago, Rocketneo said:

I'm just saying it would be a lot more fun if you could rob people. I am sticking with asylum, I have tried that server and its fun but very boring really quickly.

I mean I guess 600 ppl + would disagree with you but, you have been here long enough on asylum so I would prolly just call it stockholm syndrome.

There is a market for RP and not alot for cops and robbers shit like asylum, its old ... way to old for newer gens to enjoy it and thats why asylum has pretty much close to 0 active players

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been gone for a while thought i'd check up on good ol asylum and  its dying per usual. Arma 3 isn't nessecarily a "dying" game imo i always see high pop servers with new players and alive communites so there is a lot of opportunities for asylum in the big 2025. Had some decent pop when the server re-opened but just like wipe couldn't feed off that momentum instead they released some half ass update and roadmaps followed by staff members and high ranking members  being complete troglodytes and power tripping which lead to this decline

ik some of you have been on other life servers on arma 3 like oly and anzus and both these servers are alive and well but follow one main theme. A dedicated dev and staff team who engage with the community, are open and transperent and push new updates and patch notes which are usually small but regular and this is what gives them their momentum and high pop. this is easier said then done ofcourse so im hoping the owners can actually make some change from this post and others commments and strip down asylum to its core and make some drastic changes because this servers got alot of potential and moneh!!. (also stop adding more feds add some civ oriented updates that encourage rp)

If all else fails just turn this shit into a pvp server  because of all the cheaters and sweats yall got on here, asylum is 30% rp the other 70% is cops v robbers and cartelling OR introduce MODS 

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6 hours ago, HomeTrlx said:

I mean I guess 600 ppl + would disagree with you but, you have been here long enough on asylum so I would prolly just call it stockholm syndrome.

There is a market for RP and not alot for cops and robbers shit like asylum, its old ... way to old for newer gens to enjoy it and thats why asylum has pretty much close to 0 active players

I guess you can call it that. Want real RP try redM now that was fun, a lot of the fiveM servers are gang banger scenarios also unfortunately. I agree with you though, they have population which is more than what we can say right now so they are doing something right.

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5 hours ago, Rocketneo said:

I guess you can call it that. Want real RP try redM now that was fun, a lot of the fiveM servers are gang banger scenarios also unfortunately. I agree with you though, they have population which is more than what we can say right now so they are doing something right.

I dont really care about rp or something like (that ship has sailed for me), but the "devs/owners" want rp... but its just to late to actually save this server atleast. The community has become pretty small. They either go heavy into marketing with a new concept (game/server) to attract newer people or they go down with asylum like the titanic.

 

But I do agree they are doing something right and the owners could've looked into "what they are doing right and what (we) do wrong". As I said before they heavily rely too much on older players to come back, management wise thats pretty bad, cuz most of the old players like me, still feel somewhat attach to asylum but moved on rather quick when shit went downhill 

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16 hours ago, Ahm2d said:

well loyal people gave up after old and new staff and dev actions and commitments a lot of old players left the server when i say a lot means most of them.

Yes, it's a combination of mistakes by Asylum's admin/dev team and the fact that many people who used to play Asylum just don't play Arma 3 at all anymore. 

Regardless, Asylum probably had the most well-established community on Arma 3 at one point. They could fill up 4 Altis servers and even have a ton of people playing on a 5th and 6th server, being Tanoa and/or Strife.

What I am trying to say is that Asylum had a strong community that they COULD have expanded into different games like FiveM; they just didn't.

For example, Paratus (founder of Asylum) tried to do that, but he was far too ambitious. He tried creating a standalone RP game but couldn't actually develop it. He ended up wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars lol.
 

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23 minutes ago, thero said:


For example, Paratus (founder of Asylum) tried to do that, but he was far too ambitious. He tried creating a standalone RP game but couldn't actually develop it. He ended up wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars lol.
 

I wouldnt call it ambitious... I would call it exitscam but yea sure.

But then he had to get a nice "office" for 2 people in the middle of toronto for like 60% of the budget he had. Most people left cuz they didnt get paid etc. Even Motown left the project somewhat fast.

AND the worst they recruited Olio the children groomer as CM

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23 minutes ago, HomeTrlx said:

I wouldnt call it ambitious... I would call it exitscam but yea sure.

But then he had to get a nice "office" for 2 people in the middle of toronto for like 60% of the budget he had. Most people left cuz they didnt get paid etc. Even Motown left the project somewhat fast.

AND the worst they recruited Olio the children groomer as CM

Yeah, exit scam is probably a better way to put it

I do think they spent (wasted) a LOT of money, though.

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I'll be 100%

OWNERS.... 

You want $$ right...Who invests in something with out expecting a roi?

Its a number game and you arn't getting the numbers...Your selling a product.."ASYLUM LIFE"..arma 3 is just a platform for that...You need to find new location to sell yoru product to be profitable. The block we used to be on (ARMA 3) is sadly over run by competition and we have more then "3 strikes and your out" at attempts to revives this.
You need to move to Amazon...aka FIVEM./Reforge. Who cares about anyones feeling here. You want the $. Go where the $ is.

How successful is RP on FIVEM?
FIVEM - US RP Servers
Photo speaks for itself.

Sojobo already proved the ASYLUM model of gaming works! We don't have to model after them stick to ASYLUM Life and if need be we adapt...sure some things will need to change but real talk...the RP here is FUCKING BAD!

"HANDS UP OR DIE"

95% of the cops "RP" is just following guide book protocals. Probably closer to 98% if were being honest.

Its lite RP at best.

Point is if your selling a product you want to be available to as many people as possible. FIVEM is already proven to have amazing numbers in RP servers and Reforge is coming around.

Here is the HONESTY PART.... Fuck 100% of anyone here who is "OH BUT ITS NOT ARMA...I"LL PASS!" Sorry but your feelings don't pay the bills and isn't populating the server.

Lets get our heads out of our asses and get on with the next chapter!


 

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I said it one and ill say it again, add a reforger server to see how well it does. If you log onto arma Reforger, literally EVERY server is either max population or almost max pop. In my opinion, the only way to save it is to upgrade it. Dont get me wrong, OG Asylum is awesome and its come a long way. However, opening a reforger server would not only generate new players but also would generate a lot more income for the owners considering reforgers current popularity. Consoles can also use reforger. Its a win win and something to seriously consider at this point. Open one up, try it out, and keep arma 3 asylum running during testing. 

On top of that, BAN THE CHEATERS. its so obvious and at least 3 or 4 APD officers per fight get instantly 1 tapped from any range. 

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8 hours ago, 王 Prodigy 王 said:

I said it one and ill say it again, add a reforger server to see how well it does. If you log onto arma Reforger, literally EVERY server is either max population or almost max pop. In my opinion, the only way to save it is to upgrade it. Dont get me wrong, OG Asylum is awesome and its come a long way. However, opening a reforger server would not only generate new players but also would generate a lot more income for the owners considering reforgers current popularity. Consoles can also use reforger. Its a win win and something to seriously consider at this point. Open one up, try it out, and keep arma 3 asylum running during testing. 

 

this x1000

 

Reforger is the next logical step. FiveM is not really a great idea considering gta6 is coming around the bend.

 

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1 hour ago, Cheech'nChong said:

A Reforger life server with actual fun gameplay would be nice. All the life servers on Reforger rn are boring af.

Yea Elon life is lacking the rp aspect and their economy is kinda whack, with their end game being minimal and unsatisfying. The fights there aren't too bad, if you can get past everything else. If we brought our same rp over we'd be a valid source of competition, even though I believe they have 3 120 pop servers that stay full during the day and get around 60 at night for each server 

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3 hours ago, Sp0on said:

Yea Elon life is lacking the rp aspect and their economy is kinda whack, with their end game being minimal and unsatisfying. The fights there aren't too bad, if you can get past everything else. If we brought our same rp over we'd be a valid source of competition, even though I believe they have 3 120 pop servers that stay full during the day and get around 60 at night for each server 

Ive played Elan for a while and i find them to become boring really fast. An Asylum style life server on Reforger would be one of a kind atm. Id play it.

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