Silver-Spy Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 You may have noticed only a very minute number of prison breaks after the new location of the prison itself.I feel like the location of the prison is too far away for people to break prison itself and most people just afk rather than ask their friends to rescue them by initiating the prison break.My suggestion would be to maybe move the prison to the best location which was near prygos HQ on an island which was also one of the best prison we had.I would also like to know what you guys have to say about this and also would like to know what would maybe increase the rate of prison break in general. No please. DJB, Will, Olivia and 5 others like this Link to comment
Scott Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 The reason people don't do it is because it's broken and you can't break people out Alec-I, varex, Olivia and 3 others like this Link to comment
Brandon Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Personally i like the idea of the new prison it just needs to be fixed Link to comment
massi Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) old pyrgos prison ---> that's what you need Edited February 27, 2017 by massi Trash and Glass of Water like this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 and if paratus doesn't like it there, at least put the prison break the way it used to be without all the new shit Olivia, Patato, Silver-Spy and 2 others like this Link to comment
BioHazard Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, Fudger said: and if paratus doesn't like it there, at least put the prison break the way it used to be without all the new shit ^ Link to comment
BioHazard Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 The new prison is confusing AF and apparently don't even work. Olivia likes this Link to comment
DJB Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hmm some good points on this thread personally I'd rather see it put back near Pyrgos HQ... My favorite place to fight personally. I don't care about all the new stuff but it would be awesome to see it working and not messed up. But yea I think either things should be fixed so that the break can be done correctly or changed back for the time being until the new one is working and ready to be released. imo Silver-Spy, Trash and BioHazard like this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, DJB said: Hmm some good points on this thread personally I'd rather see it put back near Pyrgos HQ... My favorite place to fight personally. I don't care about all the new stuff but it would be awesome to see it working and not messed up. But yea I think either things should be fixed so that the break can be done correctly or changed back for the time being until the new one is working and ready to be released. imo And without cops spawning behind you in pyragos:/ Silver-Spy likes this Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Last time I did a prison was when it was at Pyrgos HQ. Last time I've seen a large gang do a prison was when it was at Pyrgos HQ. Coincidence? I THINK NOT! Edited February 26, 2017 by Vanilla Coke Kettles, they took the name eazy, JAY1HP and 5 others like this Link to comment
DJB Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fudger said: And without cops spawning behind you in pyragos:/ I mean don't get me wrong I like that cool content is being created for us to enjoy but it needs to work correctly... I agree that the spawn locations could be better, but honestly I've not really seen many police spawns except for bank which sometimes just gets mowed down. Lol Edited February 26, 2017 by DJB Silver-Spy and Olivia like this Link to comment
James Anderson Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 +1 Pyrgos Prison. Silver-Spy likes this Link to comment
Silver-Spy Posted February 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Maybe move the whole thing to the old prison location which is near Pygros HQ. Link to comment
Lorax Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I say we move the prison to Kavala! Link to comment
Brendon Smith Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, massi said: old pyrgos prison ---> that's what you need Link to comment
Midamaru Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 No need to increase the amounts of prison breaks, they are either done or not but it doesn't need changing aslong as it's functional. Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, Midamaru said: No need to increase the amounts of prison breaks, they are either done or not but it doesn't need changing aslong as it's functional. It's a waste of space atm. Jail could literally be 4 fences at this point to cut down on mission file size, because no one is doing prison breaks. massi and bunni like this Link to comment
MrClean Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) There was a few threads about having an armory full of weapons and grenades. A successful prison or breaking open the armory that gives loot will motivate players. Edited February 27, 2017 by MrClean Link to comment
Olivia Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 The old Pyrgos prison wasn't perfect but I do think it was better than the new one(s). What if SWAT had the option to spawn in an SDV just offshore behind the Pyrgos prison island? That could make it more interesting and less of a zerg rush down the island bridge gauntlet of death. bunni and Frizzy like this Link to comment
Boris Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I wish we could get the pyrgos prison, but as Gnashes said someone on the forums, Paratus hates the pyrgos prison, so you'd have better luck finding a goat hair in a haystack. Will, ^Connor_K and Olivia like this Link to comment
BioHazard Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Lorax said: I say we move the prison to Kavala! Haha Link to comment
BioHazard Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 99% of the community WANTS pyrgos prison. It was so FUN to fight both as civ and cop, this is why people are getting bored so easily, fights like that don't happen anymore and as a result civ is mostly cartels and cop is a driving simulator. Thats my honest opinion. Edited February 27, 2017 by BioHazard Frizzy and Will like this Link to comment
Silver-Spy Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) @Paratus @Gnashes @bamf @Motown Edited February 27, 2017 by Silver-Spy Link to comment
Guest Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Paratus dislikes prison island. It will not go back there. You have helicopters that can carry a full group and get to prison in <5 minutes from Rebel. It's not the location, people just don't want to do anything that's not "shoot the cop running across a small bridge in a straight line". Link to comment
Silver-Spy Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gnashes said: Paratus dislikes prison island. It will not go back there. You have helicopters that can carry a full group and get to prison in <5 minutes from Rebel. It's not the location, people just don't want to do anything that's not "shoot the cop running across a small bridge in a straight line". Well i dont get why @Paratus doesn't like the old prison but almost everyone wishes to play on the old prison.I know there isn't much you can do but sometimes in a large gang shooting cops and giving them a strong fight is part of the fun activities as a rebel.Nowadays everyone goes to the bank and most gangs dont bother about the money but play for having a good time.And from the police side its as fun as it is from the rebels to push in the position and eliminate the threat. [No lethals ] Link to comment
Will Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 As someone that mainly played career cop I enjoyed the challenge of the old prison and would have it back any day. But it's unlikely to return I am just not a fan of the current prisons complexity in its design. Just my 2 ¢ Steve, Haych and BioHazard like this Link to comment
Axe Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gnashes said: Paratus dislikes prison island. It will not go back there. You have helicopters that can carry a full group and get to prison in <5 minutes from Rebel. It's not the location, people just don't want to do anything that's not "shoot the cop running across a small bridge in a straight line". Or you know.... Because it doesnt work Or no one knows how to do it Or its not even worth the time or money. Pick. Mechanic change. Or location change. Clearly both do not work. Also. Its not an issue of distance from things. Its an issue of it being a boring ass place to fight. Its a fucking field with some cover. No major elements. Edited February 27, 2017 by Axe Budbringer, Haych and Sheriff Rick Grimes like this Link to comment
Silver-Spy Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 If changing location and mechanics is not gonna happen why not increase the jail time per offence so that gang members caught for high bounties would have to ask their gang members to break them out.It would increase prison breaks and hopefully some good action. Olivia likes this Link to comment
Axe Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Boris said: I wish we could get the pyrgos prison, but as Gnashes said someone on the forums, Paratus hates the pyrgos prison, so you'd have better luck finding a goat hair in a haystack. I found a whole goat. Your move Silver-Spy, Olivia, Frizzy and 2 others like this Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Silver-Spy said: If changing location and mechanics is not gonna happen why not increase the jail time per offence so that gang members caught for high bounties would have to ask their gang members to break them out.It would increase prison breaks and hopefully some good action. the prison does not even function properly. all you can do is shut off the power, you cant actually complete it. Hence why nobody does it, its pointless Link to comment
Legit Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, TheRealLethal said: the prison does not even function properly. all you can do is shut off the power, you cant actually complete it. Hence why nobody does it, its pointless They tested it on a dev server, clearly it has to work and everybody else is wrong. It has nothing to do with the snakes opening the doors. Edited February 27, 2017 by Legit Olivia and Silver-Spy like this Link to comment
MrClean Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Prygos was an endless peak battle If it was brought back y'all would realize it's boring and would want yet another location. Thing is, most of you don't realize what you have until it's gone Link to comment
HotWings Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 13 hours ago, BioHazard said: 99% of the community WANTS pyrgos prison. It was so FUN to fight both as civ and cop, this is why people are getting bored so easily, fights like that don't happen anymore and as a result civ is mostly cartels and cop is a driving simulator. Thats my honest opinion. Wheres the proof of that claim lol 9 hours ago, Gnashes said: Paratus dislikes prison island. It will not go back there. You have helicopters that can carry a full group and get to prison in <5 minutes from Rebel. It's not the location, people just don't want to do anything that's not "shoot the cop running across a small bridge in a straight line". This is exactly it, rebels stopped doing the prison when it was no longer shooting fish in a a barrel. It has nothing to do with mechanics, it has everything to do with the fact that its not stupidly balanced to rebels anymore. Link to comment
Haych Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, HotWings said: This is exactly it, rebels stopped doing the prison when it was no longer shooting fish in a a barrel. It has nothing to do with mechanics, it has everything to do with the fact that its not stupidly balanced to rebels anymore. I've quoted this in the past, it applies to anything regarding a Attack/Defence scenario. " If its a event catered to 1 faction triggering it, it has to be in the favour of that faction for it to get love. Think of it as bad cartel locations, no one fights them because no gang is willing to defend them, if there is no gang to defend it, there is no fight. " Rebels will only do events related to fighting cops if they can murder as many people as easily as possible or get something nice out of it. You either offer a nice reward (Fed), if you don't, you have to make that 'reward' slaughtering cops with ease (Old PB), or find a middle point (Bank). The New PB doesn't offer neither. Putting that aside, the fact that the prison doesn't even work is another story in its self. Edited February 27, 2017 by Haych BioHazard and Steve like this Link to comment
Nightfury Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Gnashes said: It's not the location, people just don't want to do anything that's not "shoot the cop running across a small bridge in a straight line". cops didnt complain about the pyrgos prison for years, especially after swat was added. in fact more cops started complaining that nobody would do prison breaks and that they were bored after the prison was first moved. but hey, apparentlly in this community asking for something consistantlly makes the devs to not do it. #GeneralStore@Skiptracer BioHazard, Budbringer, Haych and 1 other like this Link to comment
BioHazard Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, HotWings said: Wheres the proof of that claim lol This is exactly it, rebels stopped doing the prison when it was no longer shooting fish in a a barrel. It has nothing to do with mechanics, it has everything to do with the fact that its not stupidly balanced to rebels anymore. Obviously an exaggerated guess but with the amount of forum posts popping up it's quite clear a significant majority of the active community want Pyrgos prison back. Steve and Matthew like this Link to comment
HotWings Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, BioHazard said: Obviously an exaggerated guess but with the amount of forum posts popping up it's quite clear a significant majority of the active community want Pyrgos prison back. All told 30 people have said something about the prison on the forums. At any time during peak hours there are any where from 400-500 people on the servers.... Just because people dont use the forums does not mean they are not active members. Its very annoying when people try to claim "the majority" when its literally less than 1% Link to comment
Silver-Spy Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, BioHazard said: Obviously an exaggerated guess but with the amount of forum posts popping up it's quite clear a significant majority of the active community want Pyrgos prison back. Almost 99% of the community want the old prison back and so i would like to know why @Paratus @bamf not agreeing upon it.Atleast let us know if the old local caused bugs of any sort or that it was too "One sided".Whatever the reason is please do notify us why the prison is not gonna be placed back. Link to comment
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BioHazard Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, HotWings said: All told 30 people have said something about the prison on the forums. At any time during peak hours there are any where from 400-500 people on the servers.... Just because people dont use the forums does not mean they are not active members. Its very annoying when people try to claim "the majority" when its literally less than 1% 17 minutes ago, Silver-Spy said: Almost 99% of the community want the old prison back and so i would like to know why @Paratus @bamf not agreeing upon it.Atleast let us know if the old local caused bugs of any sort or that it was too "One sided".Whatever the reason is please do notify us why the prison is not gonna be placed back. Link to comment
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