Smee Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Since the recent update of carrier lite and CSAT Implement Ravens Vest Same Armour rating as Tactical Vest Same Load More appealing to wear than tactical vest Price $2500 Edited March 4, 2017 by Smee Nightfury, Alec-I, Reformed Katheeri and 8 others like this Link to comment
Corgi Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 +1 tac vests look like shit BioHazard likes this Link to comment
massi Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 basically a black tac vest? i want a black vest, it goes well with csat Link to comment
william Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 +1 but like the devs care xd Link to comment
James Anderson Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gnashes said: You want a better vest for cheaper? Hah! Tac Vests have always cost me $2,000, when did that change? Link to comment
James Anderson Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: Tacvests have cost 3k for about 2 years now. They only cost me 3K when i buy them as UC on cop, if i buy them from civ store they cost me $2,000 last time i used one anyway, same for BH. Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Gnashes said: You want a better vest for cheaper? Hah! make them 3.5/4 then. Link to comment
Corgi Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: ["V_TacVest_brn",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_camo",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_khk",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_oli",nil,3000], But can we add the vest in a reasonable form? Link to comment
James Anderson Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: ["V_TacVest_brn",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_camo",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_khk",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_oli",nil,3000], same price for Black tac vest also ? Link to comment
Smee Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gnashes said: You want a better vest for cheaper? Hah! there the same only thing the ravens vest weigh more thats why they are cheaper xD Link to comment
raty294 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 34 minutes ago, Smee said: not only are they heavier, they are easier to hit the body with since i believe thats what the passthrough value is Link to comment
Legit Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 34 minutes ago, Smee said: @Gnashes Correct me if I'm wrong, but half the PassThrough means not as much damage gets applied to the unit. Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Legit said: @Gnashes Correct me if I'm wrong, but half the PassThrough means not as much damage gets applied to the unit. I think thats the case, which is why its technically better overall. But price could be adjusted to reflect that. Link to comment
Smee Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Legit said: @Gnashes Correct me if I'm wrong, but half the PassThrough means not as much damage gets applied to the unit. well as a suggestion price can be varied, im not too bothered. i hate the look of the tac vest. Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Smee said: well as a suggestion price can be varied, im not too bothered. i hate the look of the tac vest. Whats the Raven vest compared to carrier light? Link to comment
Smee Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Just now, HotWings said: Whats the Raven vest compared to carrier light? Edited March 3, 2017 by Smee Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Just now, Smee said: From what it looks like its the same armor value as the carrier light just has less load capacity. I cant seem them allowing it with CSATS sadly, BUT it would still be cool to have as an option with normal clothes. Edited March 3, 2017 by HotWings Link to comment
Smee Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, HotWings said: From what it looks like its the same armor value as the carrier light just has less load capacity. I cant seem them allowing it with CSATS sadly, BUT it would still be cool to have as an option with normal clothes. Frizzy and MrClean like this Link to comment
Legit Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) . Edited September 28, 2018 by Legit BioHazard likes this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 29 minutes ago, Gnashes said: ["V_TacVest_brn",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_camo",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_khk",nil,3000], ["V_TacVest_oli",nil,3000], It's 2 k the black one at the clothing store as bh Link to comment
Nightfury Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 45 minutes ago, Gnashes said: You want a better vest for cheaper? Hah! the price was just a suggestion. its up to u guys to balance the price ; ) next patch u add yes yes? Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Smee said: 27 minutes ago, Smee said: Those are two different sets of data. Frizzy likes this Link to comment
Smee Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, HotWings said: Those are two different sets of data. Well the 1st picture is the one in game the second picture is from a wiki page which may be unreliable. Link to comment
Legit Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Smee said: Well the 1st picture is the one in game the second picture is from a wiki page which may be unreliable. Just did a quick test with Fatigues+Vest Tac: Raven: Carrier Lite: I think the passThrough of the raven is actually the same to the tac vest and whatever you're using for a source has incorrect data. systemchips and Haych like this Link to comment
Haych Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 @Paratus did say he will consider adding them a while ago when I brought them up. No reason not to add them, the ballistic protection is the exact same as Tac Vests. Only adv Ravens Vest gives you is the extra storage space for more mags, which can be justified with a slightly higher price tag. Professor Pericles and HotWings like this Link to comment
Beifang Ming Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Its 2K if you got the gang talents Edited March 3, 2017 by Beifang Ming Link to comment
Professor Pericles Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Gnashes said: You want a better vest for cheaper? Hah! Better? I thought you were a "numbers" guy? Frizzy likes this Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Professor Pericles said: Better? I thought you were a "numbers" guy? It arguably has better penetration ratings. Those are the numbers that make it better... Edited March 3, 2017 by HotWings Link to comment
Professor Pericles Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, HotWings said: It arguably has better penetration ratings. Those are the numbers that make it better... Maybe I'm an idiot then, I'm looking at these test numbers for damage taken and they are exactly the same, regardless of penetration from the 762. Maybe the penetration value mentioned above is taken more in effect when using a lower inertia cartridge , say 9MM or 5.56. @Legit Could you possibly try 9MM and 5.56 for comparison to the 7.62. The point @HotWings brings up seems valid Edited March 3, 2017 by Professor Pericles Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'd like to see it in the game, the issue is pairing it with CSATS. Ive seen multiple sources that state the bullet penn is .5, then armory says its the same as tac vest . Link to comment
Legit Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Professor Pericles said: Both vests seem to be the same. Unless the mission I'm using is somehow off though the only alteration it does to the raw number is a round. (This is with the vest + CSAT Fatigues) Edited March 3, 2017 by Legit Corgi, HotWings, Frizzy and 1 other like this Link to comment
Professor Pericles Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Legit said: (This is with the vest + CSAT Fatigues) So the case rest's. No armor benefit compared to TAC, wont break gameplay. Would love to see this added @Paratus @bamf Link to comment
Legit Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Professor Pericles said: So the case rest's. No armor benefit compared to TAC, wont break gameplay. Would love to see this added @Paratus @bamf Just as a true final summary with the real config values. Now I have no idea if clothing changes the hitbox of the vests, the Raven vest is a tad bigger than the Tac. Most Protection -> Least Protection (Raven and Tac only have model differences.) Edited March 3, 2017 by Legit Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Legit said: Just as a true final summary with the real config values. Now I have no idea if clothing changes the hitbox of the vests, the Raven vest is a tad bigger than the Tac. Most Protection -> Least Protection (Raven and Tac only have model differences.) Dude, at this point its like a giant meme. The statistics for armor are different everywhere you look lol Link to comment
BioHazard Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Legit said: So from my understanding (I could be wrong) You have specific part health and then an overall health. The higher the PassThrough determines how much damage gets applied to the overall health. Each individual part has its own damage values. So at 1 PassThrough if you shoot somebody in the legs and do .5 damage it will do .5 damage to their Overall Health. You can't die from full leg or arm damage but you can from chest damage. This is why fatigues are good as they apply less damage to your overall health when you are shot in the arms/legs. Lower passthrough on the vest means you're less likely to die from a leg/arm shot after being hit in the chest. Pilots + Raven would be better overall than Pilots + Tac. Yeah I watched a good YouTube video explaining the above, I'll have to link it when I find it. Link to comment
BioHazard Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 But +1 on the original suggestion anyway I'm all for the addition of any type of vest except GL carrier rigs lol HotWings likes this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 5 hours ago, HotWings said: Dude, at this point its like a giant meme. The statistics for armor are different everywhere you look lol It's like the police tactical vest. It says it has full armor in virtual arsenal ( Idk if it still does, at one point it did ) but when you look at the config and see the passthrough, it's barely better than a regular tactical vest. Link to comment
FuzzyPanda Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 13 hours ago, Gnashes said: You want a better vest for cheaper? Hah! Link to comment
Smee Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Sheriff Rick Grimes said: It's like the police tactical vest. It says it has full armor in virtual arsenal ( Idk if it still does, at one point it did ) but when you look at the config and see the passthrough, it's barely better than a regular tactical vest. pass through 0.7 but Armour has increased to 50 Link to comment
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