TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) I've spent at least $50 on loot keys and got all green or 'common' items, which has given me 'credit' worth a total of around $6 which isn't even worth 5 keys, waste of time and money, the system is poor the way it is right now. CSATS countless blues go past and then a green is selected... or it just spins twice when they start on a green run... We Should get more than we do from the crates. Edited February 3, 2018 by ackford1922 General language, Punctuation and grammar Corrections Blocker likes this Link to comment
HotWings Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: I've spent at least $50 on loot keys and got all green or 'common' items, which has given me 'credit' worth a total of around $6 which isnt even worth 5 keys, waste of time and money the system is bull shit. 3 csats and countless blues go bye and then a green is selected... or it just spins twice when they start on a green run. I fail to see the problem with what you're complaining about. Its not different than CSGO keys. Twinkie likes this Link to comment
Clint Beastwood Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 There are people that spent in upwards of $300 getting the CSATs. I spent 90$ and ended up getting 2 CSATs back to back... TheAckinator likes this Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 I kinda wanna buy keys to get Pilot coveralls but i dont wanna waste like 50-100 dollars on justin bieber t shirts... TheAckinator likes this Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 On CSGO ive earnt about 100$ from just playing a game and getting a great gun at the end of a match, plus any gun you get on csgo can be upgraded, you can get unlucky 10 times and then get something worth 20$ to at least make up what you lost. They've added too many donater options, you can 'donate' or 'donate to the monthly goal' or buy 'loot keys'. The old donator system was much more rewarding to the person investing into the server. Now i get a disadvantage in combat because someone used a key at the right time. Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: On CSGO ive earnt about 100$ from just playing a game and getting a great gun at the end of a match, plus any gun you get on csgo can be upgraded, you can get unlucky 10 times and then get something worth 20$ to at least make up what you lost. They've added too many donater options, you can 'donate' or 'donate to the monthly goal' or buy 'loot keys'. The old donator system was much more rewarding to the person investing into the server. Now i get a disadvantage in combat because someone used a key at the right time. I got 2.1k hours on csgo And the best item i have gotten from an end of the game bonus is An AWP|Safari mesh, so its all about luck. Link to comment
Clint Beastwood Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: On CSGO ive earnt about 100$ from just playing a game and getting a great gun at the end of a match, plus any gun you get on csgo can be upgraded, you can get unlucky 10 times and then get something worth 20$ to at least make up what you lost. They've added too many donater options, you can 'donate' or 'donate to the monthly goal' or buy 'loot keys'. The old donator system was much more rewarding to the person investing into the server. Now i get a disadvantage in combat because someone used a key at the right time. CSATs are available to everyone at rebel. Its just not the pilot coveralls.. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Clint Beastwood said: There are people that spent in upwards of $300 getting the CSATs. I spent 90$ and ended up getting 2 CSATs back to back... Fancy sharing one of them? xD (I know it doesn't work like that) Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Clint Beastwood said: CSATs are available to everyone at rebel. Its just not the pilot coveralls.. Talking the helmet mainly, only head armour option in the game. Plus, the use on cop is what i'm looking for, the carrier rigs do enough for me on civ. Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: Talking the helmet mainly, only head armour option in the game. Plus, the use on cop is what i'm looking for, the carrier rigs do enough for me on civ. U can buy the go-kart helmet. Same shit. Link to comment
goyney Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 You are complaining about an RNG mechanic where you are accepting the risk of spending money with no guarantee of getting a rare item. You are just upset. If it makes you feel better I got all CSAT in 4 crates. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, casperskate said: U can buy the go-kart helmet. Same shit. again, not on cop.... but anyway, who the fuck rocks up to a cartel or something in a go kart helmet? xD Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: again, not on cop.... but anyway, who the fuck rocks up to a cartel or something in a go kart helmet? xD BioHazard Does. U will still get one shoot in the head by an mk1. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Goyneyyy said: You are complaining about an RNG mechanic where you are accepting the risk of spending money with no guarantee of getting a rare item. You are just upset. If it makes you feel better I got all CSAT in 4 crates. The CSAT isnt the main thing im looking for, and its the piss poor attempt at compensating us for getting the same greens over and over, once you gain an item you shouldnt be able to get it again, thats the best look box mechanic ive seen in a game. Or due to the lack of content within the boxes, an incresed %chance of you getting a rarer item, so i get it on me last key i spent $50 on altogether, just so i get something to feel good about, rather than 6$ off my next 5 keys to unlock more greens again Link to comment
goyney Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: The CSAT isnt the main thing im looking for, and its the piss poor attempt at compensating us for getting the same greens over and over, once you gain an item you shouldnt be able to get it again, thats the best look box mechanic ive seen in a game. Or due to the lack of content within the boxes, an incresed %chance of you getting a rarer item, so i get it on me last key i spent $50 on altogether, just so i get something to feel good about, rather than 6$ off my next 5 keys to unlock more greens again You don't get it I don't think...... Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Its all about luck. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Goyneyyy said: You don't get it I don't think...... You don't get it because you got lucky... If you had spent 50$ you'd expect to have at least get a blue, the randomisation isn't the problem, its the fact you don't get rewarded for supporting the devs and server, when someone that spends the lowest amount can get a CSAT in 1 go. There should be a better consolation system is what I'm saying... CSGO has the upgrade 10 item function, some games have the increased rarity chance, we get a piss poor amount of 'credit' to inevitably fail again. Link to comment
Tigery46(Chrono) Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: You don't get it because you got lucky... If you had spent 50$ you'd expect to have at least get a blue, the randomisation isn't the problem, its the fact you don't get rewarded for supporting the devs and server, when someone that spends the lowest amount can get a CSAT in 1 go. There should be a better consolation system is what I'm saying... CSGO has the upgrade 10 item function, some games have the increased rarity chance, we get a piss poor amount of 'credit' to inevitably fail again. I back you up on this ive spent around 50 dollars and gotten pure shit ive gotten 2 blues which was the helmet and and the stupid backpack you should be able to atleast get an upgrde system or upgrade chances depending on what you spend Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: You don't get it because you got lucky... If you had spent 50$ you'd expect to have at least get a blue, the randomisation isn't the problem, its the fact you don't get rewarded for supporting the devs and server, when someone that spends the lowest amount can get a CSAT in 1 go. There should be a better consolation system is what I'm saying... CSGO has the upgrade 10 item function, some games have the increased rarity chance, we get a piss poor amount of 'credit' to inevitably fail again. U DONT FREAKING HAVE TO DONATE OR BUY KEYS. Its ur own fault. Jesus, just accept the fact that u got more unlucky than somebody else... Link to comment
Tusken Raider Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: You don't get it because you got lucky... If you had spent 50$ you'd expect to have at least get a blue, the randomisation isn't the problem, its the fact you don't get rewarded for supporting the devs and server, when someone that spends the lowest amount can get a CSAT in 1 go. There should be a better consolation system is what I'm saying... CSGO has the upgrade 10 item function, some games have the increased rarity chance, we get a piss poor amount of 'credit' to inevitably fail again. You are comparing a feature built into a major game compared to a feature in a community for a mod of a dying game. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: If you had spent 50$ you'd expect to have at least get a blue, the randomisation isn't the problem, its the fact you don't get rewarded for supporting the devs and server, when someone that spends the lowest amount can get a CSAT in 1 go. There should be a better consolation system is what I'm saying... CSGO has the upgrade 10 item function, some games have the increased rarity chance, we get a piss poor amount of 'credit' to inevitably fail again. @Gnashes @bamf Thoughts on this? Again, I'm not pissed at the lootbox system it's self, i've donated in the other ways, at this point I just dont think loot boxes are as rewarding as the other donation options. I like the fact there is a consolation prize, but it's only a prize if you pay more money. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Just now, Tusken Raider said: You are comparing a feature built into a major game compared to a feature in a community for a mod of a dying game. I disagree, CSGO is an indie game for 1, and one of the things which made the game mainstream popular is the lootbox openings, nothing to do with the game it's self. Plus, Asylum/Arma isnt Dying, I see new people all the time joining and making new content. Edited February 3, 2018 by ackford1922 Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Just now, ackford1922 said: @Gnashes @bamf Thoughts on this? Again, I'm not pissed at the lootbox system it's self, i've donated in the other ways, at this point I just dont think loot boxes are as rewarding as the other donation options. I like the fact there is a consolation prize, but it's only a prize if you pay more money. Ur clearly pissed whenever u tag the two devs for no reason. The devs have more important stuff than reading somebodys post about them losing their money because they are unlucky. Edited February 3, 2018 by casperskate Link to comment
LITTLE HANOI Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 I got lucky when they first came out with loot crates, I got the pilot covers and csat and tach helmet with 6 keys TheAckinator likes this Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Corn Dog Man said: I got lucky when they first came out with loot crates, I got the pilot covers and csat and tach helmet with 6 keys Good for u TheAckinator likes this Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Just now, casperskate said: Ur clearly pissed whenever u tag the two devs for no reason. The devs have more important stuff than reading somebodys post about them losing their money because they are unlucky. Again, I'm not pissed, i support the devs and the community, and im offering my suggestions for a better donating system, I was a donator years ago and i don't mind paying to support something i spend alot of time on. Just because you're lucky or you don't bother with donating or 'losing your money' doesn't mean something can't be improved. Plus, this is a community.... Community feedback, suggestions and thoughts are what make a community stronger, hence why i said "thoughts" not 'change this'. No need to be salty about someone giving feedback Edited February 3, 2018 by ackford1922 Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: Again, I'm not pissed, i support the devs and the community, and im offering my suggestions for a better donating system, I was a donator years ago and i don't mind paying to support something i spend alot of time on. Just because you're lucky or you don't bother with donating or 'losing your money' doesn't mean something can't be improved. Plus, this is a community.... Community feedback, suggestions and thoughts are what make a community stronger, hence why i said "thoughts" not 'change this'. No need to be salty about someone giving feedback Not salty. It just seems like u are a little bit pissed. Link to comment
thero Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 pilots on 2nd crate ez TheAckinator likes this Link to comment
zane1 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) throwing money into something knowing the risk of not getting your preferred items and then crying about it. Edited February 3, 2018 by zane1 Link to comment
HotWings Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: On CSGO ive earnt about 100$ from just playing a game and getting a great gun at the end of a match, plus any gun you get on csgo can be upgraded, you can get unlucky 10 times and then get something worth 20$ to at least make up what you lost. They've added too many donater options, you can 'donate' or 'donate to the monthly goal' or buy 'loot keys'. The old donator system was much more rewarding to the person investing into the server. Now i get a disadvantage in combat because someone used a key at the right time. Ive never got more than a 2 dollar skin at the end of a game.... And trading up for the most part is a joke, to make money you need to buy good skins to upgrade which essentially eliminates any real profit... I dont see why options are bad, you can unlock lower prices by giving to the goal or cosmetics by donating personal level. There also is no disadvantage to not having a helmet, if there were it would be against TOS. Link to comment
Donald Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, HotWings said: Ive never got more than a 2 dollar skin at the end of a game.... And trading up for the most part is a joke, to make money you need to buy good skins to upgrade which essentially eliminates any real profit... I dont see why options are bad, you can unlock lower prices by giving to the goal or cosmetics by donating personal level. There also is no disadvantage to not having a helmet, if there were it would be against TOS. the best thing i ever got was a glock candy apple it was like 50 cents Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, ackford1922 said: I've spent at least $50 on loot keys and got all green or 'common' items, which has given me 'credit' worth a total of around $6 which isn't even worth 5 keys, waste of time and money, the system is poor the way it is right now. CSATS countless blues go past and then a green is selected... or it just spins twice when they start on a green run... We Should get more than we do from the crates. maybe you're just an unlucky person. Link to comment
TheAckinator Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, KFC Extra Crispy™ said: maybe you're just an unlucky person. If it wasn't computer generated then yeah, I guess, nothing is truly random when it comes to coding. Link to comment
Jr. Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Clint Beastwood said: There are people that spent in upwards of $300 getting the CSATs. I spent 90$ and ended up getting 2 CSATs back to back... Yea I'v unlocked both csats plus nv googles for 70$ Link to comment
Tyler Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) took me $180 to get CSATs but unless you wanna look like a snowman at a cartel its worth, it helps the server anyways so who cares. Edited February 3, 2018 by Tyler Link to comment
bamf Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 We had a different system in mind when we originally built the loot crate system - a marketplace for you to sell skins you got more than once. Someone reported it to Bohemia, and BIS (in there infinite wisdom) decided that every player who sold stuff on the marketplace would need to apply for (and be approved) to monetize Arma. The credits you get now was our way of trying to compensate you for duplicates. The amount you are credited for duplicates of lower quality far outweighs what you would get if we were still doing the marketplace - but I recognize you get less than you could have for rare items. I wish we could do it the other way, but we have to play by BIS’ rules... TheAckinator likes this Link to comment
Jamal Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, bamf said: We had a different system in mind when we originally built the loot crate system - a marketplace for you to sell skins you got more than once. Someone reported it to Bohemia, and BIS (in there infinite wisdom) decided that every player who sold stuff on the marketplace would need to apply for (and be approved) to monetize Arma. The credits you get now was our way of trying to compensate you for duplicates. The amount you are credited for duplicates of lower quality far outweighs what you would get if we were still doing the marketplace - but I recognize you get less than you could have for rare items. I wish we could do it the other way, but we have to play by BIS’ rules... Just increase chances of rares & decrease commons Bet you would get a shit ton more people buying them then currently. Just my opinion though Link to comment
Guest Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Grizz said: Just increase chances of rares & decrease commons Bet you would get a shit ton more people buying them then currently. Just my opinion though The odds of getting a rare aren't that bad. Also worth noting that the little display for "rolling" is completely random except for what you actually won. There's no meaning to it. Link to comment
Jamal Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Gnashes said: The odds of getting a rare aren't that bad. Also worth noting that the little display for "rolling" is completely ransom except for what you actually won. There's no meaning to it. Yeah, iirc , as soon as you hit open , it's already decided what you have, it just cock teases you until it lands to show you what you won. Also, the amount of people I've herd of how likely it is for rares (how much they spent to get coveralls) , is god awful, & i'm sure a few of us remember last years episode because of how bad everyone felt it was. Can you share what the actually odds are for each? Link to comment
Guest Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Grizz said: Yeah, iirc , as soon as you hit open , it's already decided what you have, it just cock teases you until it lands to show you what you won. Also, the amount of people I've herd of how likely it is for rares (how much they spent to get coveralls) , is god awful, & i'm sure a few of us remember last years episode because of how bad everyone felt it was. Can you share what the actually odds are for each? Not without angering Bamf and Paratus. I will say your odds now are about 66% higher than when they first came out. Link to comment
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