The Gent Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) I've been playing for about 8 hours a day for the last 4 days on Asylum, I've done turtles, cocaine, weed, arms dealing and scavenging wreckages as my higher-value trips. Even taken over the cartels with my gangs, holding a couple of them for 8 hours and the other for over 24...we have made $1700 from gang funds. I don't really feel like I've had a fun time yet...which is insane. I'm all for grinding, but to be fair, most Altis/Taki life servers, if you grind for a couple of hours, you can get 250-500k, enough money for a helicopter or big vehicle...but in 4 days of near-religious grinding, my bank account is *nearly* $100k. IE: 80k off from being able to buy an M900 - the most base helicopter. Please believe me when I say I am certainly not new to "Life" servers, my Youtube channel proves that point, and I appreciate that the other servers I'm on have higher costs, however, I'm talking in terms of tangible assets - affording a helicopter/truck after maybe 5 decent runs of a drug. Maybe 10-15 runs of legal. The market seems to make no sense - you never know the value of anything as it's always at its "base" value which is always so damn low for everything. I had a friend spend like an hour doing an oil run. He found out he was limited to 1 barrel in his boat and ended up netting a whopping 4k...the time involved to make money on this huge map seem incredibly disproportionate to the wages and I feel it heavily needs tweaking. Additionally, legal runs have near-0 incentive to go for...if I have to bust my arse on a drug run for pennies, why would I do a legal run for even less? I know those with prestige crossing over from Altis servers probably will have no issues at all with the costs, but I'm assuming that would be because there are discounts and higher 5-min wages involved for them. Not all of us have the luxury to put that time and effort into a server. Just as a last point for those thinking down the more hardcore RP route I can say as an Australian resident IRL, Australia has one of the highest wage structures in the world. It makes no sense to not be able to even afford a mid-range car after 5 oil runs... I don't know, I haven't heard many complaining in sidechat, maybe it's just me. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this. I can deal with the plethora of RDMs, campers and ARMA/Life mod bugs, but only if I am able to earn enough money within a reasonable time to actually start having fun on the server without worrying about losing gear as it's just so hard to make it back again. Regards, The Gent Edited March 28, 2016 by The Gent Gubber Flexx, blinky, Corgi and 2 others like this Link to comment
The Gent Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gnashes said: The Admins have been playing 100% Legit on the Aussie server. On Day 1, 4 of us bought a 600k house and pooled our funds to do so. Since then, we've used Scotch from that house, as well as Heroin runs, theft, chops, Moonshine, etc, etc to purchase several more houses. I personally have 650k in my bank account, 2 Robins, 3 C-130's, and am the owner of the Gang house that about 700k worth of Scotch is currently cooking. You just have to be ruthlessly efficient in your money making, but you can make excesses. I have no doubt you play legitimately. Would it be fair to say you have an advantage in that you are aware of all the locations to go, bugs to avoid and values of trips though and that you have donor status and all the perks that come along with it? Also the fact that you're all admins, means, generally, you will be playing together a lot of the time. Not all of us have the luxury of having our gang online most of the time for big, slow runs. Also, non-donors can't access the Home Depot to my knowledge, therefore, buying a house is a major waste of money. My gang did likewise and pooled our money together for a 250k gang house and have ended up with a useless spawn point, with no ability to store any goods. We're not likely to donate with how all of us have said we're just not enjoying the server. And we're all Aussie. Regards, The Gent Edited March 28, 2016 by The Gent Link to comment
Gosu Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just now, Jarvo said: We all know you duped the money stop lying. He wouldnt dare ban himself Link to comment
papamunski Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 risk/effort vs reward is way outta whack...$3500 for an oil run that took 35 plus minutes is not fun..its pointless..im all for the grind but on this server its way too much...needs serious tweeking The Gent likes this Link to comment
The Gent Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Also, I missed it first time, but you say chops...I thought the chop shop was broken? Link to comment
ViiET Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Gent said: I have no doubt you play legitimately. Would it be fair to say you have an advantage in that you are aware of all the locations to go, bugs to avoid and values of trips though and that you have donor status and all the perks that come along with it? Also the fact that you're all admins, means, generally, you will be playing together a lot of the time. Not all of us have the luxury of having our gang online most of the time for big, slow runs. Also, non-donors can't access the Home Depot to my knowledge, therefore, buying a house is a major waste of money. My gang did likewise and pooled our money together for a 250k gang house and have ended up with a useless spawn point, with no ability to store any goods. We're not likely to donate with how all of us have said we're just not enjoying the server. And we're all Aussie. Regards, The Gent Donor level is nothing game breaking lol especially for making money. I don't own a house nor do i use my gang house. I can easily go make 300k in a few hours by myself. Payout on Aussie is perfectly fine imo. A lot easier to make money compared to our altis server imo. Edited March 28, 2016 by ViiET Link to comment
The Gent Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, ViiET said: Donor level is nothing game breaking lol especially for making money. I don't own a house nor do i use my gang house. I can easily go make 300k in a few hours by myself. Payout on Aussie is perfectly fine imo. A lot easier to make money compared to our altis server imo. I would be interested to know what runs/methods you employ. You're claiming you can make $300k in between server restarts on Aussie Life? As far as I can tell, turtles are the most profitable - the payout being around $15k a backpack, roughly 3 backpacks in a run w/a speedboat (=$45k). Assuming everything goes in your favour, I'd estimate the max you could earn from that from a couple of hours is around $180k. Of course the above estimation presumes the following: DDOS/server instability isn't happening, there are no campers/cops at any point, you are making the best time you could with turtles spawning generously (around 30 minutes for a Melbourne run), you don't have to go to the market for food or gun store for more ammo, the price doesn't drop for some odd reason mid-sell and you own the cartel, removing your tax obligations. Regards, The Gent Link to comment
Goldberg Attorney at Law Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Since you're not a donor have you tried running moonshine? Probably the easiest way to make decent money fast and safe. Link to comment
ViiET Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 34 minutes ago, The Gent said: I would be interested to know what runs/methods you employ. You're claiming you can make $300k in between server restarts on Aussie Life? As far as I can tell, turtles are the most profitable - the payout being around $15k a backpack, roughly 3 backpacks in a run w/a speedboat (=$45k). Assuming everything goes in your favour, I'd estimate the max you could earn from that from a couple of hours is around $180k. Of course the above estimation presumes the following: DDOS/server instability isn't happening, there are no campers/cops at any point, you are making the best time you could with turtles spawning generously (around 30 minutes for a Melbourne run), you don't have to go to the market for food or gun store for more ammo, the price doesn't drop for some odd reason mid-sell and you own the cartel, removing your tax obligations. Regards, The Gent Owning Drug Cartel and Talim Bend Turf and doing Heroin runs in a beetle. make roughly 20k in about 10-15mins. Link to comment
The Gent Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 8 hours ago, ViiET said: Owning Drug Cartel and Talim Bend Turf and doing Heroin runs in a beetle. make roughly 20k in about 10-15mins. I mean, sure after you have put the time in taking the cartel and the turf, ususally controlled by the biggest gang on the server at the time...but that's another thing that irks me about the server - it implied in the map notes that taking turfs was more about getting all the turfs in order to make money, not just one - what does getting one turf do? Do you need to collect the cash like the cartels? Also, is the arms dealing cartel broken? (couldn't find the fridge,made no money direct to bank) Regards, The Gent. Link to comment
ViiET Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Gent said: I mean, sure after you have put the time in taking the cartel and the turf, ususally controlled by the biggest gang on the server at the time...but that's another thing that irks me about the server - it implied in the map notes that taking turfs was more about getting all the turfs in order to make money, not just one - what does getting one turf do? Do you need to collect the cash like the cartels? Also, is the arms dealing cartel broken? (couldn't find the fridge,made no money direct to bank) Regards, The Gent. Turfs have Perks they are not like cartels. One turf has double drug gathering, Less materials for black market production, and more payouts from chops and store robbery. Arms dealer does not have a fridge. Link to comment
The Monopoly Man Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 You can easily hit money cap in one day on server 6... Link to comment
papamunski Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 26 minutes ago, The Monopoly Man said: You can easily hit money cap in one day on server 6... i highly doubt that! Gubber Flexx and The Gent like this Link to comment
The Monopoly Man Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, papamunski said: i highly doubt that! You will never know until you try Link to comment
papamunski Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 23 minutes ago, The Monopoly Man said: You will never know until you try SMH Link to comment
The Gent Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) So...might you guys maybe start listening seeing as the average server-pop is now more like 30 at most times in the day, whereas a few weeks ago when it started up, it was almost always full like the Altian servers? There's no shame in being wrong, but it's pretty piss-poor if you can't admit it and make moves to change it imo. From most of the feedback and responses on this thread, it appears the majority agree. Look forward to your response and hopefully being able to play on a nice full server that isn't just Grind Simulator 2016 soon! Regards, The Gent Edited April 7, 2016 by The Gent Link to comment
Gatorade Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) @The GentId like to think that im the laziest person nowadays when it comes to making money - 2 years of grinding in asylum alone does that to you. With that being said I chopped tree's for like maybe 10 hours total and made my self about 200k while killing people and joking with my friends. Tree's - > Brisbane -> the hemmit transport of s6 i think its like 26k to buy it -> then profit is about 7-8k per run , which takes about 10 minutes when you get good at it Min amount per hour you make: ~30k Max amount per hour you make: 43k Obviously thats not counting getting robbed , nor is it counting you getting these vehicles, but it costs like 200$ to get the stuff to get going - and if you play 8 hours a day you are looking at min amount per day: 240k Max amount per day: ~330k This is also something you can run with a community such as Drunk Squad, or MoB and can run it safely while having a good time. You can also upgrade to bigger better vehicles but just remember the bigger you go, the bigger you risk. Also when the server fresh restarts, a weed run in one of those rusty 250 inventory cars nets you like an easy 20k in about 20 minutes, same goes for heroin when you have a decent group of people and there isnt an over flood on the market - you make BANK. I really stress that you take the time to make friends with some of the gangs around there that like to make money. Edited April 7, 2016 by Sugarfoot Link to comment
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