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This is a re-post of the rule change regarding RP from August 2015:
After a long discussion, we have decided to change the rules around a few role play (RP) scenarios.  
First, it is no longer acceptable to send someone a text message telling them they are going to die and then killing them immediately (or shortly thereafter).  Things like “you will die” followed by someone being killed will be a bannable offence going forward.  
 
Second, when you do initiate hostile role play with someone you must give them sufficient time to react.  For example:  
 
“Hands up or die” is perfectly fine - provided you give the person ample time to respond, give them time to put their hands up, run, or to begin dialogue with you.  If they fail to comply with your demand in a reasonable time, then by all means do whatever you feel you need to do within the RP scenario you are creating.  
 
Also, you must make a reasonable demand of the person.  A time when “hands up or die” is not reasonable, is when someone is driving a car or a helicopter.  There is no way for them to put their hands up in a short amount of time.  If they pull over and exit the vehicle, then they are beginning to comply - do not just shoot them on sight.  If they turn a weapon towards you and you feel your life is in danger, then you may shoot them (but remember guns always pop out when you exit a vehicle thanks to an Arma mechanic).  The better thing to say may be “Pull over (or land), exit the vehicle, and holster your weapon immediately”.  If the person complies, then you can play out the RP scenario from there.  
Third, when someone does comply with your demands, you must find another reason to kill them.  They complied, so your “or” statement has no meaning if you go ahead and kill them anyway.  If you say “hands up or die” and the person puts their hands up and you shoot them anyway, you will likely find yourself banned for a period of time.  If you want to further the RP scenario with them a touch and then kill them that is fine, but you must find another reason inside of your RP to end their life.  
These changes are not a move to a hard core RP type of system, but instead are ways to make the RP inside of the Asylum servers more meaningful.  We love the fast paced nature of the game play here, but we do want RP to be more engaging for everyone.  You shouldn’t have to fear you will be killed each time you get told “hands up or die” provided you comply with the demands given to you.  
We also would prefer RP be initiated through voice commands.  When you hide behind a text message and shoot quickly, your chances of being banned going forward will be higher.  Let’s all try to be better at RP - I think you will find it will make your gameplay here more fun.  
Thanks,  
Bamf

Age: 24
 
In-Game Name: Jayce
 
Player ID: 76561198044209766
 
Estimated Time in ASYLUM servers: 500 hours
 
Current/Previous Gangs: wet suit brothers
 
Have you been banned before? (If yes, why?) no, cuz I'm fantastic  
 
How much is in your bank account? I wouldn't lie about this but I'll send one if needed. 138k (screenshot)
 
How do you know of Šilk Ŗoad? They had 2/3 turfs and 2 cartels. seemed legit.  
 
Why do you wish to join Šilk Ŗoad? I want to join a gang that knows what their doing, likes teamwork, and doesn't mind getting dirty to do it. Also the sick symbol on the sides of the vehicles haha

Age: 24
 
In-Game Name: Jayce
 
Player ID: 76561198044209766
 
Estimated Time in ASYLUM servers: 500 hours
 
Current/Previous Gangs: wet suit brothers
 
Have you been banned before? (If yes, why?) no, cuz I'm fantastic  
 
How much is in your bank account? I wouldn't lie about this but I'll send one if needed. 138k (screenshot)
 
How do you know of Šilk Ŗoad? They had 2/3 turfs and 2 cartels. seemed legit.  
 
Why do you wish to join Šilk Ŗoad? I want to join a gang that knows what their doing, likes teamwork, and doesn't mind getting dirty to do it. Also the sick symbol on the sides of the vehicles haha

Accepted as the leader , sending skype username now !

sorry sir meet me behind kavala hospital! 

A Guide to Bullet Penetration on Asylum
Up to date.
Pistols
Protector 9mm:
Minor wood penetration and plastic only.
SPAR-16 5.56
SPAR-17 7.62
MX 6.5
(MXC is slightly less but wont make a diffence)
MXM 6.5
MK-1 7.62
(Rahim is slightly less for multiple layers of wood but basically same for walls)
 
Bonus

^Emptied a few mags into this house with the MXM to show it's potential to neutralize threats(works in both old and new houses)^

^Show various way bullets can affect windows of an ifrit. ricochet(left), shatter(middle), absorb(right). It took 27 direct rounds from an MXM to take out a window, recommended to shoot tires but i thought this is still good to know.^
 
Questions/feedback please!

From what I have seen, there has been a number of outstanding ideas that are not out reasonable whatsoever that COULD be implemented into the server, but are just denied. I have been talking to some people about what would make this server great again and the most common discussion topic I hear is Gang Life. Soooo everyone who is interested in seeing this community thrive again like it once used to, I encourage you to create ideas in depth. Explain how they would work, how they could be implemented, along with thinking the possible downsides so the community can think through your suggestion and see if it would make a good addition or not. By all means this isnt an insult or attack on any of the staff, but merely a community encouragement to voice your opinion in positives (with well thought and planned out suggestions for the developers to think) rather then negatives (complaining on the forums 24/7 with sarcastic comments.)
 
I have some ideas myself that I want to develop more so like I said earlier please don't be afraid! Let the community and the devs hear your suggestions and your ideas.
 
Note: Please don't reply to this thread if your just going to post negatives or anything other than simply giving good suggestions, or an opinion on what could be fun/interesting for the community. 

I agree, the all to common "not happening" needs to end and switch the mentality to "let's at least give it a shot" with dwindling numbers anything is worth a shot

@bamf @Gnashes @Silver-Spy



Mystery Machine v1.0:
•Classic cartoon brought to life in Asylum Arma 3.
•Catch crooks with this bad boy.
•Do not hunt dogs with this, scooby will be angry.

For the love of fuck please add this. Do you know how hard it is to get to a medical without a civilian saying
'OFFICER THIS GUY RAN INFRONT OF ME VEHICLE I WANT PARDON PLS"
 
A common argument: Rebels have to do it so why shouldn't cops?
Emergency Services:
Police
Fire
Medical
 
--
Why would a fellow emergency service supply the rebels with medical supplies and not their comrades?
 
anyhow pls add thanks.
 
 

Removing a server is doing a lot. I mean most players like one server and tend to stick to that one. So the move would not come easy.
Then look at something like the APD, what about all the sergeants and lieutenants losing their spots.
This effects much more then just the normal gang or average player, and I know it seems kinda dead, but give it a few months. People will be on all the time once again.

and school just started wait till winter sale/break itll be poppin 

In an effort to improve the opinion of the APD that a lot of civs have I thought I would make a post on ways, in my opinion, to improve the relationship between the police force and the civilians. Nothing I say in this post is law, nothing is "calling anybody out", and I am not saying these things are the only ways to interact with civilians. Feel free to add anything to this, either things you do or your thoughts on the post. Ideas will be broken up into the key subject in bold and an explanation beneath it. For those of you that just want to get to the point you can skip the next paragraph. 
To explain what I mean by the opinion of the APD I will break it down. Civilians often feel the APD is just there to issue tickets and that we do not really care about them or their well-being. The job of a police officer is not just to catch criminals but also to help the population. The police force is a main piece of the server that will in a large part determine how popular it is. If all we were here to do is issue tickets then the developers would have just made ticket amounts come directly out of the persons account or send them to jail if they could not pay it. The police force is here to battle the gangs, protect the civilians from the gangs and each other, provide balance on the server to keep it from turning into chaos, and to allow the people of the island to feel a certain degree of safety and even importance. The reason I say importance is because without the civilians Asylum would be no more. I feel the importance is an issue we need to step up our game on. With that being said, on with the post. 
Respond to 911 calls. Civilians send 911 calls for a reason, they expect a response. Always try to respond to a 911 call with a text telling them if you can or can not respond. Often times if all officers are busy I will send the person a text telling them we are not able to respond at the moment due to this reason but we will try to respond as soon as we can. If it takes very long I will even send them another message telling them we have not forgotten their call. If you notice another officer is near the call alert the officer to it, tell them the call that just came in is near them and see if they can respond to it and then notify the civilian. If a civilian is stuck somewhere and messages the police for a ride always try to help them out, even if it means pulling a helicopter.  Engage in RP with civs in your area. Often times if I get out of my car in a city when I am not in a pursuit I will immediately ask the surround civs how their day is going, this will always lead to more conversation. Avoiding conversation with civs makes them feel like you don't care about them. If you are talking to someone and you need to leave for something tell them you would stay and chat but your assistance is needed elsewhere. Another great way I have found to gain some respect from civilians is to ask them if they think the APD is doing a good job, how the force could improve, and if they feel safe. I tell them their opinions will not be held against them in any way and it is shocking how many people will actually be serious about it and tell me what they think. Always give civilians a chance to explain their actions. It is tempting to be strict with someone when they have done something against you but try not to. If someone is being rude try to rp with them why they are in such a bad mood and that you are just trying to do your job and keep the island safe. If they are violent with officers ask them why. It is almost always possible to get someone that is being uncooperative to turn their attitude around. *Here is another post I made with a tip to do that  Remember someones ticket should be reduced just for not making you chase them. If you ask someone to stop or siren and they do then go easy on them. I am not saying do not try to rp, always try to rp. Even if someone has a 300k bounty always allow them the chance to explain their actions. I know a lot of gang members don't bother trying to rp because in the past they have rped a story for 20 mins just to have their 200k ticket dropped to 100k which they still wont pay. If you really think their story is not going anywhere try to avoid letting them waste a bunch of their time but do it in a respectful way. But otherwise give them a chance to explain themselves.  Do not restrain a civilian as soon as you start talking to them. I have heard a lot of civilians complain that as soon as an officer walks up to them and says sir you are wanted the officer restrains them. If the person is being cooperative and did not try to run from you there is no reason to restrain them until you need to issue them a ticket or search them (I normally do not search unless i caught them breaking a law). If I need to restrain someone to do something when they are being cooperative I always warn them first that I need to do so for this reason.  If someone is turning themself in and combat breaks out for an unrelated reason unrestrain them somewhere safe. This way if all officers die the person is not stranded there handcuffed. Remember a person in handcuffs is unable to use their phone. You can always meet up with them after the combat has been resolved.  Do not hold grudges against gangs. Gangs are a necessary part of the game. As a police officer you signed up for combat and to deal with general trollery. If a gang starts seeming hostile with cops it is probably a sign they do not feel they are being treated fairly. Always try to explain to people the reason why they are restrained, being issued a ticket, or receiving any other sort of punishment.  Always try to get people processed as soon as you can. Nobody likes to just be standing around waiting to be ticketed or sent to jail. The longer a person waits the more aggravated they will be. If somebody does have to wait a while explain to them why. Remember they are playing this game for enjoyment so their time has to be somewhat valuable to you.  Try to explain the severity of their crimes in an RP way. This is a topic to have fun with. If you catch someone robbing a gas station ask them why are they taking money from this family owned business. If they are speeding ask them if they realize they are endangering the lives of not only themselves but also the plant life, wildlife and other residents of the island. If they murdered someone ask if they ever considered the persons family and that now you will have to notify the victims wife that her husband won't be coming home. The possibilities are endless.  Make people think that their time is valuable to you. Do not keep someone in a situation they do not enjoy for any longer than you can help. Try not to keep people waiting any longer than you can help. If somebody has been kept waiting for an extended period of time don't be afraid to take some money off their ticket for their patience. If I ever make a mistake I try to compensate the person for it. Just the other night I accidentally took a player's drivers license so I paid for it and gave him extra for his time to have to go get another. In some cases the persons time to replace something can be more valuable than the items lost.  These are just some things I do. I am not saying everyone has to do it, I am just making people aware. A good experience today plants the seed for a good experience tomorrow. Remember the civilians can make our job fun and they can also make it miserable. I believe a good standing with the civilians will make the game more enjoyable for everybody. And I really believe the reason the APD was put in this game was to keep the game enjoyable for everyone (to a point). So this is the end of my long post. I hope some people get some inspiration out of it and I hope it in some way helps the servers. Thank you anyone who took the time to read this. Feel free to leave other tips you might have or questions in the comments. 

If you come across any DP 1 homes or Sophia homes please let me know.