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  1. xeL liked a post in a topic by Lucien in S2 SRT   
    Good suggestion lex! We should make sure certain toy enthusiasts aren't allowed in though....
  2. Lucien liked a post in a topic by xeL in S2 SRT   
    I'm gonna keep this rather short and sweet. 
     I believe the requirement of having to be in the APD on s1 to join SRT on s2 should be removed.  (Still keep it a whitelisted faction, but make it a separate whitelist from the s1 APD to allow civs to join it)
    - Increase amount of players that have the ability to join SRT
    - Allows this faction to be separate from s1 as it should be due to it being an s2 only faction with no impacts from s1 whatsoever
    - More people in the faction = good! (Fun to fight, delays dom win, etc)

    "...pointless to have it correlate with APD if your S1 rank doesn't correlate with it in any shape or form." - 10/10 explanation thx Junker
  3. Junke liked a post in a topic by xeL in S2 SRT   
    I'm gonna keep this rather short and sweet. 
     I believe the requirement of having to be in the APD on s1 to join SRT on s2 should be removed.  (Still keep it a whitelisted faction, but make it a separate whitelist from the s1 APD to allow civs to join it)
    - Increase amount of players that have the ability to join SRT
    - Allows this faction to be separate from s1 as it should be due to it being an s2 only faction with no impacts from s1 whatsoever
    - More people in the faction = good! (Fun to fight, delays dom win, etc)

    "...pointless to have it correlate with APD if your S1 rank doesn't correlate with it in any shape or form." - 10/10 explanation thx Junker
  4. xeL liked a post in a topic by Junke in S2 SRT   
    Yeah i agree, pointless to have it correlate with APD if your S1 rank doesn't correlate with it in any shape or form.
  5. /|/|0T4RD liked a post in a topic by xeL in S2 SRT   
    I never said it should be non-whitelisted.  What you said is what I want it to be.  Whitelisted but make it so s2 players can apply.  Not only s1 cops.  I'll make that more clear in the post.
  6. xeL liked a post in a topic by /|/|0T4RD in S2 SRT   
    You’re sooo jimmy neutron with this shit bruh I can’t fade it.
    Great suggestion for people who want to play but don’t have a gang.
    Now I’m just waiting on the career cops who said S2 SRT isn’t supposed to be controlled by APD to comment here 👀
  7. bigjohn561 liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  8. Bob Danaloo liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  9. Acending liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  10. xeL liked a post in a topic by Lucien in s2 vehicle rule   
    Just make it so vehicles go back to garage when they get blown up on Dom who cares
  11. xeL liked a post in a topic by operatorjohnny^ in s2 vehicle rule   
    Anyone that think dom still "prints" money is out of their mind. S2 money 90% of the time stays on S2 and you make 300-400k if you go positive and don't have to buy any ifrits. If you don't go lioke 30K/30D and buy an ifrit you make like 200k after 2 hours. 
  12. operatorjohnny^ liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    50-75% that play s2 don't even play s1 so your point is invalid.  No one "abuses" the money earned, it is an economy that almost fully stays on s2.  S2 "printed" more money when it was dead because people would farm the base amount.  Those 10-20 people that played when the server was dead actually played s1 so it did hinder the s1 economy.  With 50-60 people on you actually don't farm as much money as in the past!  You're making 300k for 2 hours of your time (If you're not buying frits), and other people lose money already as is without buying frits, and people spend their blood money so the economy is circulated between those that play.  Please stop pushing this retarded agenda that people "print money" still and it kills s1 because most of the s2 pop now a days don't play on s1.  On top of this, there needs to be a reward for winning?  If there was no incentive to play and rewards for winning just shut down the server?  Like what?
  13. operatorjohnny^ liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  14. xeL liked a post in a topic by Repto in s2 vehicle rule   
    True and I do understand these facts about S2 completely as well as the points you make, I wouldnt be against it if the admins tried to make a rule for it though, I only sometimes play dom on Sundays and barely enjoy it personally. I was moving more to the idea where just like on the S1 server it's not really something that can be to easily regulated and its just gonna happen sadly, it sucks right now that it's something that happens incredibly frequently. I'm sure people have always been shedding ifrits on dom though.
     
    I'm glad to see that some cop SoP's may be in the works for the server as its been very overdue but even then I doubt a cop policy will be able to completely out way much when it comes to the servers general separation from a large majority of S1's server rules. More admin regulation/observation would also be great but that is for sure an extra responsibility to expect from them.
    If the same cops that do it on SRT cant do it on SRT anymore because of policy they are all just gonna gang on civ to do it most likely.
  15. Destroyer liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  16. /|/|0T4RD liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Thank you.
  17. xeL liked a post in a topic by Innate in s2 vehicle rule   
    We are currently working on this, thank you for your suggestion.
  18. /|/|0T4RD liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    You're retarded because most of the players on s2 don't play s1 therefore the 300k profit 4 times a week for 2-3 hours of constant pvping and HAVING to win to ACTUALLY MAKE money affects no one as the same kits are being purchased on s3 over and over.  Congrats on looking like a head bent retard and no one liking you.  To prove my point even more name 25 out of the 50 players that play s2 that also play s1 not including cops who also make $ from dom (Maybe this point would be considered if 50% or more of s2 played s1, which would still only be 25 out of 100+ active players that play s1).
  19. xeL liked a post in a topic by Austin M in s2 vehicle rule   
    Calm down. I can barely understand what you are typing.
     
    1. cops don’t really make money, only do if they are uncapping. If they’re shedding Frits they’re not making anything.
    2. Should be both server wide rule. I think shedding vehicles should be considered an exploit. 
  20. lukee liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    You're retarded because most of the players on s2 don't play s1 therefore the 300k profit 4 times a week for 2-3 hours of constant pvping and HAVING to win to ACTUALLY MAKE money affects no one as the same kits are being purchased on s3 over and over.  Congrats on looking like a head bent retard and no one liking you.  To prove my point even more name 25 out of the 50 players that play s2 that also play s1 not including cops who also make $ from dom (Maybe this point would be considered if 50% or more of s2 played s1, which would still only be 25 out of 100+ active players that play s1).
  21. ih8LoL liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    50-75% that play s2 don't even play s1 so your point is invalid.  No one "abuses" the money earned, it is an economy that almost fully stays on s2.  S2 "printed" more money when it was dead because people would farm the base amount.  Those 10-20 people that played when the server was dead actually played s1 so it did hinder the s1 economy.  With 50-60 people on you actually don't farm as much money as in the past!  You're making 300k for 2 hours of your time (If you're not buying frits), and other people lose money already as is without buying frits, and people spend their blood money so the economy is circulated between those that play.  Please stop pushing this retarded agenda that people "print money" still and it kills s1 because most of the s2 pop now a days don't play on s1.  On top of this, there needs to be a reward for winning?  If there was no incentive to play and rewards for winning just shut down the server?  Like what?
  22. ih8LoL liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  23. lukee liked a post in a topic by xeL in s2 vehicle rule   
    Make it against the rules to shed ifrits ON S2 DOMINATION - it's becoming a problem because cops are purposefully shedding vehicles on a server where you're MEANT to use them to fight but still do b/c they are hated at home and pay less for everything so no one will do it back to them!  Why is this a thing on an event server where you're meant to fight with armored vehicles? Cops currently do not log onto SRT to do their factions purpose on the event server, they are there to troll and make it harder on others trying to enjoy their time.

    Points for this:
    - Most of s2 pop doesn't play s1
    - There needs to be a reward for players participating in the event?  I do not understand why people are mad people are getting money in return for winning an event
    - Some players make money, some players lose money, blood money is spent and earned as well, this is how dom/conquest works on every server and it circulates the economy
    - Average players shouldn't be determining what is too much money, especially those who play a faction that pay less for stuff in game.  Leave it to devs to decide and change the economy on s2 if it's too much.
    - It's an event server where armored vehicles are supposed to be used
    - Cops aren't competing for points like civilians are.  Cops get paid per flag decapped, while civilians are paid based on their amount of points they earn, as well as cops pay a set amount per death no matter what gear they are using and civilians do not.  Why are civilians being punished and trolled by a faction that has benefits (Paid per decap, cheaper kits, cheaper vehicles as well as vehicles that do NOT transfer to s1 so if they blow up they are cheaper to repurchase)?
    - Cops also make money on this event server, while still paying less for gear so I do not understand why they are attempting to control the economy for civilians when they make money as well.  They have no SOPs regarding what gangs or flags they have to target, and are at free will to even cap smaller gangs flags to make money.  This is a flaw, and if cops are going to argue we are making money on this server and the argument is "Cops don't make $ while shedding frits", there is no reason for them to be on the server.  They have the opportunity to make money if they chose to do their factions intended purpose, instead they are purposefully avoiding what their factions purpose is in the event to make it worse gameplay for civilians
    - It's a rule to not grief and interfere with admin events or gang fort, why does this not apply as well as it's an event that gets 50-60 players for 2-3 hours multiple days a week (Admins do events to create fun for the community. If you deliberately attempt to ruin or get in the way expect action to be taken at the admins discretion. This falls under the "Don't be a dick" clause.)
    - Cop vehicles are cheaper on dom and do NOT transfer over to s1, civilian vehicles do.  Cops are abusing this function to go on s2 and destroy civilian vehicles that transfer over to s1 while not in danger of having anything connected on their side to s1.
    - These actions can push away and punish new players from domination as players who are new to s2 and come to try it out will have their vehicles from s1 shedded on an event server when it's meant to be an event where they can freely pvp and use armored vehicles
    - Shedding frits brings no positives to domination only negatives and the point of it is to have fun, not be trolled by a faction that has benefits.  If you want to shed frits on s1, go for it but to go on an event server where these vehicles are meant to be used by civilians and are connected to civilian s1 garages is really toxic and ruins the point of the event
     
    Solutions:
    Solution 1) Make cops pay the same amount for frits and gear as us if this stays, they should not be able to spend less to make others spend more by shedding our frits.  We should be allowed to shed theirs and force them to pay the same amount if they can shed ours.
    Solution 2) Make it against the rules for everyone to shed frits
    Solution 3) Make blown up vehicles go back to the garage as this is an event server and armored vehicles are meant to be used
    Solution 4) Make new SOPs for cops to not shed frits, as civs do not do this as they are actually competing for the win and understand this frustrates people and makes their time worse and don't want to kill the s2 pop as it just started getting pop again.
    Solution 5) Have developers or willing players actually look at the numbers on what players earn and spend over a time period and have developers determine if it should be changed and how it should be changed going into the future
    Solution 6) Have a separate s2 garage for civilians
  24. xeL liked a post in a topic by lukee in s2 vehicle rule   
    spending 700k of kits to make 1mil at the end of a 2 hour event and having to buy ifrits cause they get shedded isnt necessarily considered printing money
  25. xeL liked a post in a topic by Junke in s2 vehicle rule   
    its almost like there should be policy written for SRT... *cough* @Innate
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