The thing is now about good players is a lot are up and coming players not so much that they are bad, gangs just need to work on pushing so we can have fun at cartels, nothing's fun about 8 people focusing a hill hoping to see a helmet or a hat for 45+ minutes, or capping the arms and having a gang that talks shit to you camp bottleneck with a .50 and more people than you have instead of coming to fight.