kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) If people are going to CL....punish them...don't punish bugged players or legitimate game crashes by forcing them to jail with no chance to rp/pardon. Cops also LOSE money because of this...not sure why it was ever brought into the server honestly. Edited April 4, 2016 by Krypton:) iFox, Special K and Gubber Flexx like this Link to comment
Volunteer281 Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Unfortunately there are far more people combat logging while restrained than people who log restrained due to game crashes. If people would stop breaking server rules and combat logging then this mechanic would be removed. Rodrigo, Reavantos, |Cam| and 6 others like this Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Volunteer281 said: Unfortunately there are far more people combat logging while restrained than people who log restrained due to game crashes. If people would stop breaking server rules and combat logging then this mechanic would be removed. So they go to jail? Cops get nothing, they can log right back in and apologize say they had a crash....get out of rp And laugh at the cops who lost out....it makes it easier to just log back on and say sorry since you know your punishment of jail time already. Edited April 4, 2016 by Krypton:) Link to comment
Zelthius Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Krypton:) said: So they go to jail? Cops get nothing, the CHER can log right back in and apologize say they had a crash....get out of rp And laugh at the cops who lost out....it makes it easier to just log back on and say sorry since you know your punishment of jail time already. They still get banned when witnessed. The "sent to jail" is just an extra punishment. Correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Zelthius said: They still get banned when witnessed. The "sent to jail" is just an extra punishment. Correct me if I am wrong. You can just say you crashed....since you literally can log right back in and send everyone a message saying I'm sorry let me log back in. Link to comment
Zelthius Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Krypton:) said: You can just say you crashed....since you literally can log right back in and send everyone a message saying I'm sorry let me log back in. It's easy to tell if someone lags out or ALT F4's. (Most of the time) Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Zelthius said: It's easy to tell if someone lags out or ALT F4's. (Most of the time) But there is also numerous ways to get around it such as simply shutting off the pc, having Internet be lost, etc. If you're smart you can pass it off as a real crash very easily, (not giving tactics here)...and what's the point? Cops don't get pays and EVEN IF the rebels get banned.....they would've been banned anyways. Link to comment
HotWings Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) It honestly doesnt change much, but put them in jail in lue of being free. I am less worried about the money and more worried about the implications this has on vet players. You make you shit steam ticket fail and it is more or less unreportable. I wish it could be proven because I know of atleast a few people that do it. Edited April 4, 2016 by HotWings Link to comment
Travis* Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, Krypton:) said: So they go to jail? Cops get nothing, the CHER can log right back in and apologize say they had a crash....get out of rp And laugh at the cops who lost out....it makes it easier to just log back on and say sorry since you know your punishment of jail time already. I can not believe cops are complaining about lack of money. Cops should make much less money than they do now, because currently cops have no regard for their own life. Shouldn't they since its an RP server? You pay a couple thousand for a full set of gear when a rebel pays upwards of 35 thousand. Also, Constables given the option to lethal whenever they want now is a joke. They don't even attempt to down us anymore, they just siren really far away and then attempt to lethal immediately. So Fix your police force before you come at people for combat logging. What a joke. Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Travis* said: I can not believe cops are complaining about lack of money. Cops should make much less money than they do now, because currently cops have no regard for their own life. Shouldn't they since its an RP server? You pay a couple thousand for a full set of gear when a rebel pays upwards of 35 thousand. Also, Constables given the option to lethal whenever they want now is a joke. They don't even attempt to down us anymore, they just siren really far away and then attempt to lethal immediately. So Fix your police force before you come at people for combat logging. What a joke. 35 Thousand What the TOP KEK Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Travis* said: I can not believe cops are complaining about lack of money. Cops should make much less money than they do now, because currently cops have no regard for their own life. Shouldn't they since its an RP server? You pay a couple thousand for a full set of gear when a rebel pays upwards of 35 thousand. Also, Constables given the option to lethal whenever they want now is a joke. They don't even attempt to down us anymore, they just siren really far away and then attempt to lethal immediately. So Fix your police force before you come at people for combat logging. What a joke. How did you say constables can choose who to lethal? Where'd u find that? Link to comment
HotWings Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Travis* said: I can not believe cops are complaining about lack of money. Cops should make much less money than they do now, because currently cops have no regard for their own life. Shouldn't they since its an RP server? You pay a couple thousand for a full set of gear when a rebel pays upwards of 35 thousand. Also, Constables given the option to lethal whenever they want now is a joke. They don't even attempt to down us anymore, they just siren really far away and then attempt to lethal immediately. So Fix your police force before you come at people for combat logging. What a joke. You wont see many cops complain about money honestly. Link to comment
Travis* Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Krypton:) said: 35 Thousand What the TOP KEK Sometimes its 20k for an MK, 5k for a vest, 5k for a grenade, and then mags. Could be more even with more than one nade. 1 minute ago, Krypton:) said: How did you say constables can choose who to lethal? Where'd u find that? You must not even know you're own rule book. If a constable is the highest rank on and he is the only one on, he may choose to use lethals. That is what i read when i read the rules all not too long ago. OR if there is more than one constable they can vote to use lethals. A higher up should be the only one able to authorize lethal force. Link to comment
Travis* Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, HotWings said: You wont see many cops complain about money honestly. For some reason most cops i deal with complain about money. The use of lethals is my main concern though. Link to comment
HotWings Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Travis* said: Sometimes its 20k for an MK, 5k for a vest, 5k for a grenade, and then mags. Could be more even with more than one nade. You must not even know you're own rule book. If a constable is the highest rank on and he is the only one on, he may choose to use lethals. That is what i read when i read the rules all not too long ago. OR if there is more than one constable they can vote to use lethals. A higher up should be the only one able to authorize lethal force. If there is no Sgt+ it requires everyone to vote yes, just not the majority.... Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Travis* said: Sometimes its 20k for an MK, 5k for a vest, 5k for a grenade, and then mags. Could be more even with more than one nade. You must not even know you're own rule book. If a constable is the highest rank on and he is the only one on, he may choose to use lethals. That is what i read when i read the rules all not too long ago. OR if there is more than one constable they can vote to use lethals. A higher up should be the only one able to authorize lethal force. If he's the only one on of course Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 No, just no. It punishes combat loggers, use to be that someone would combat log on you multiple times and you would have to keep dealing with them and it was fucking annoying. I have also noticed way less people combat log or their game 'crashes' when they are in police restraints now. All in all, i'm happy the way it works and the only thing i'd want is for there to be a payout for police and bounty hunters if the guy in restraints combat logs. Volunteer281 likes this Link to comment
Miss Evo Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 well if they were a good combat logger they would log before they had cuffs on Sheriff Rick Grimes likes this Link to comment
Travis* Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, HotWings said: If there is no Sgt+ it requires everyone to vote yes, just not the majority.... Right, sorry. I Do not think that is happening. If there are three cops in Pyrgos and 9 in athira. the three cops in pyrgos almost always go lethals. 28 minutes ago, Krypton:) said: If he's the only one on of course Right, but he goes lethals IMMEDIATELY, He doesnt try to down us. He goes lethal without any RP. Also they rarely stay in rp... Sending messages like "Thanks for the free money" "I win, Thanks for the money" Link to comment
HotWings Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Travis* said: Right, sorry. I Do not think that is happening. If there are three cops in Pyrgos and 9 in athira. the three cops in pyrgos almost always go lethals. Right, but he goes lethals IMMEDIATELY, He doesnt try to down us. He goes lethal without any RP. Also they rarely stay in rp... Sending messages like "Thanks for the free money" "I win, Thanks for the money" Those cops are breaking the rules and should be reported. Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Zelthius said: It's easy to tell if someone lags out or ALT F4's. (Most of the time) Yeah just midsentance unplug your network cable, woah suprise! Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, HotWings said: Those cops are breaking the rules and should be reported. Cops that automatically go lethal or cops that send taunts? Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Krypton:) said: So they go to jail? Cops get nothing, they can log right back in and apologize say they had a crash....get out of rp And laugh at the cops who lost out....it makes it easier to just log back on and say sorry since you know your punishment of jail time already. It's a mechanic that happens when something isn't supposed to happen (Black Magic, aka combatlog). When you're just playing the game it shouldn't really bother you.. if you get involved into going to jail due dc's that much, maybe you have a problem yourself. It's a fine mechanic that demotivates combatloggers because avoiding jail is impossible once in restrains. (Unless rescued or released ofcourse) If you think what was prior to this is better you should make one of those quote threads again, they seem to be working for ya. Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Midamaru said: It's a mechanic that happens when something isn't supposed to happen (Black Magic, aka combatlog). When you're just playing the game it shouldn't really bother you.. if you get involved into going to jail due dc's that much, maybe you have a problem yourself. It's a fine mechanic that demotivates combatloggers because avoiding jail is impossible once in restrains. (Unless rescued or released ofcourse) If you think what was prior to this is better you should make one of those quote threads again, they seem to be working for ya. Ive gotten basically 75% of what I requested, so you're right. Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just now, Krypton:) said: Ive gotten basically 75% of what I requested, so you're right. It was no sarcasm, go for it. Link to comment
HotWings Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 17 minutes ago, Krypton:) said: Cops that automatically go lethal or cops that send taunts? Both of what he described. Link to comment
NotSoNutty Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Krypton:) said: If people are going to CL....punish them...don't punish bugged players or legitimate game crashes by forcing them to jail with no chance to rp/pardon. +1 on this. I have seen this a lot of times already. I would say: Remove the "Restrained players to jail on logout" option. OR let at least Corporal+ be able to use lockpicks on bugged players because there are not always Sgt+ available. 2 hours ago, Krypton:) said: Cops also LOSE money because of this...not sure why it was ever brought into the server honestly. Please don't forget that we cops are not playing for the money. I know some might do but ok... Also at the moment this came into the game, there was a high amount of people logging after being restrained. 2 hours ago, Volunteer281 said: If people would stop breaking server rules and combat logging then this mechanic would be removed. I don't really agree on this one since Admins/Mods are here for a reason. I understand you want to play the game, have some fun and have a lot of other Admin stuff to do but still. And like I said before: "I would say: Remove the "Restrained players to jail on logout" option. OR let at least Corporal+ be able to use lockpicks on bugged players because there are not always Sgt+ available." Edited April 4, 2016 by NotSoNutty Link to comment
Ghost0fDawn Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 3 hours ago, HotWings said: It honestly doesnt change much, but put them in jail in lue of being free. I am less worried about the money and more worried about the implications this has on vet players. You make you shit steam ticket fail and it is more or less unreportable. I wish it could be proven because I know of atleast a few people that do it. Shadowplay does have an option to be active while not in-game. So when you alt tab out or doing anything else with your computer, you can still use it. This allows me to capture video proof of game crashes. Link to comment
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