william Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Hello, on many servers it is allowed to "hover over a spooling helicopter to stop them taking off" however if you touch them so they blow up you have to comp or face a VDM ban. I think this would be a good idea on asylum because chasing helicopters is pointless. If we were able to do this it would make it so an orca isnt so much as a safe haven any more, at the minute as soon as you start spooling you can be gone before another heli even comes in to rob/kill you. I would like to hear other peoples opinions on this because I personally think It would be great. @bamf @Gnashes @HapHazard Edited January 11, 2018 by william TRYHARD likes this Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, william said: Hello, on many servers it is allowed to "hover over a spooling helicopter to stop them taking off" however if you touch them so they blow up you have to comp or face a VDM ban. I think this would be a good idea on asylum because chasing helicopters is pointless. If we were able to do this it would make it so an orca isnt so much as a safe haven any more, at the minute as soon as you start spooling you can be gone before another heli even comes in to rob/kill you. I would like to hear other peoples opinions on this because I personally think It would be great. @bamf @Gnashes @HapHazard You used to be able to tap the rotors off back in the day but they stopped because of vdm reports but i wouldnt be opposed to it being a thing again. Mayhem likes this Link to comment
Mayhem Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, Sean That Irish Guy said: You used to be able to tap the rotors off back in the day but they stopped because of vdm reports but i wouldnt be opposed to it being a thing again. Same, as long as comps were given but so many people who point fingers and be like “oh no you hit me” and blah blah blah, but it made for good fighting, plus now I think orcas are more “vulnerable” to bullets, should be more fun Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, Mayhem said: Same, as long as comps were given but so many people who point fingers and be like “oh no you hit me” and blah blah blah, but it made for good fighting, plus now I think orcas are more “vulnerable” to bullets, should be more fun Exactly. Like just make it so if the disabling of the rotor causes death then comp so its a risk for reward type situation. Link to comment
|Cam| Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Do not Vehicle Deathmatch (VDM) VDM is using your vehicle as an OFFENSIVE weapon. Dropping a sling loaded vehicle from a helicopter to intentionally kill a player or cause destruction by "bombing" them is also considered VDM, and is not allowed. Armored Vehicles may be used in an offensive manner against ONLY other armored vehicles. (Strider/Hunter/Ifrit) due to the difficulty in stopping those types of vehicles You may hit a player with your vehicle only if they are firing at you, and blocking your direct path of travel. You may not maneuver to intentionally hit a player. Link to comment
william Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, |Cam| said: Do not Vehicle Deathmatch (VDM) VDM is using your vehicle as an OFFENSIVE weapon. Dropping a sling loaded vehicle from a helicopter to intentionally kill a player or cause destruction by "bombing" them is also considered VDM, and is not allowed. Armored Vehicles may be used in an offensive manner against ONLY other armored vehicles. (Strider/Hunter/Ifrit) due to the difficulty in stopping those types of vehicles You may hit a player with your vehicle only if they are firing at you, and blocking your direct path of travel. You may not maneuver to intentionally hit a player. ? Link to comment
|Cam| Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, william said: ? Just putting that there to read, Im no admin but I dont think this doesn't fall under any of that. The question is... is hovering over another heli considered "offensive". this is all about Loose or Strict interpretation of rules Link to comment
TheCrestedPenguin Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, |Cam| said: Just putting that there to read, Im no admin but I dont think this doesn't fall under any of that. The question is... is hovering over another heli considered "offensive". this is all about Loose or Strict interpretation of rules The admins made it clear before that this is considered VDM Mayhem likes this Link to comment
TRYHARD Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Should be considered the same as shooting out tires. If you fuck up and kill the driver/blow up the heli you comp or get banned. william likes this Link to comment
william Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, tryhardsqueaker said: Should be considered the same as shooting out tires. If you fuck up and kill the driver/blow up the heli you comp or get banned. this Link to comment
Budbringer Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 If I remember correctly we stopped allowing it because of people were not very good at it and tried the most crazaiest things Firstly we stopped allowing it on the choppers in movement, where it was only allowed to do it on stationary choppers, then it was removed from that also. So many arguments with this, and so many bad pilots/desync, so it was not worth it to be allowed. I myself always loved to do it and was a bit sad when it was declared VDM, and I still dont think its VDM Space, Professor Pericles and Mike Stmria like this Link to comment
william Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, Budbringer said: If I remember correctly we stopped allowing it because of people were not very good at it and tried the most crazaiest things Firstly we stopped allowing it on the choppers in movement, where it was only allowed to do it on stationary choppers, then it was removed from that also. So many arguments with this, and so many bad pilots/desync, so it was not worth it to be allowed. I myself always loved to do it and was a bit sad when it was declared VDM, and I still dont think its VDM should only be VDM if the pilot of the attacking orca causes the other orca to blow up by direct fault of himself. Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, |Cam| said: Just putting that there to read, Im no admin but I dont think this doesn't fall under any of that. The question is... is hovering over another heli considered "offensive". this is all about Loose or Strict interpretation of rules Its classed as VDM now but about like 3 years ago it wasnt hence him asking for a change. Link to comment
Budbringer Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, william said: should only be VDM if the pilot of the attacking orca causes the other orca to blow up by direct fault of himself. Well, thats where the argument started. Is it the hoverings choppers fault for blocking path or the other choppers fault for flying into him? Link to comment
william Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, Budbringer said: Well, thats where the argument started. Is it the hoverings choppers fault for blocking path or the other choppers fault for flying into him? its pretty obvious to be honest. If your going to fly straight into someone knowing full well your going to blow up then its your fault. If the attacking helicopter is just hovering a meter above the other its really doing nothing wrong. Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, |Cam| said: Just putting that there to read, Im no admin but I dont think this doesn't fall under any of that. The question is... is hovering over another heli considered "offensive". this is all about Loose or Strict interpretation of rules Just now, |Cam| said: Do not Vehicle Deathmatch (VDM) VDM is using your vehicle as an OFFENSIVE weapon. Dropping a sling loaded vehicle from a helicopter to intentionally kill a player or cause destruction by "bombing" them is also considered VDM, and is not allowed. Armored Vehicles may be used in an offensive manner against ONLY other armored vehicles. (Strider/Hunter/Ifrit) due to the difficulty in stopping those types of vehicles You may hit a player with your vehicle only if they are firing at you, and blocking your direct path of travel. You may not maneuver to intentionally hit a player. imo its pointless implementing it, i havent played in a while but im pretty sure advanced pilot mode lets you take off right away Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Add a poll @william Edited January 11, 2018 by Gen. Henry Arnold Link to comment
Guest Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, |Cam| said: Do not Vehicle Deathmatch (VDM) VDM is using your vehicle as an OFFENSIVE weapon. Dropping a sling loaded vehicle from a helicopter to intentionally kill a player or cause destruction by "bombing" them is also considered VDM, and is not allowed. Armored Vehicles may be used in an offensive manner against ONLY other armored vehicles. (Strider/Hunter/Ifrit) due to the difficulty in stopping those types of vehicles You may hit a player with your vehicle only if they are firing at you, and blocking your direct path of travel. You may not maneuver to intentionally hit a player. You missed an entire rule about helicopters, specifically. Quote Helicopters Impeding the flight path of a helicopter with your own is not suggested on the Asylum. If your helicopter touches another helicopter and it is determined the incident was not a simple accident, then you are guilty of VDM regardless of the outcome of the incident. Warning shots are allowed against helicopters that are attempting to land or hover near your position. If the helicopter does not leave the area after multiple warning shots, you may attempt to disable the helicopter. tl;dr: You're free to hover over another helicopter. But if they take off anyway and die, your fault, you're banned. I don't see us changing this because of historical stupidity. Link to comment
squidward Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 should be allowed but there should be enough room for them to maneuver there way out, this should be used only to slow them down until backup arrives.. assuming youre talking about playing cop Link to comment
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