Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Alright i have a windows computer. in order to run arma do i need to build one or just get a good graphics card? because i run at 10-20 fps atm is there a graphics card that can up to 50+? Link to comment
ThePun1shed Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Depends on your internet as well. Shit internet + good graphics = shit Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 i got ethernet cable with at&t Just now, ThePun1shed said: Depends on your internet as well. Shit internet + good graphics = shit Link to comment
Agent X Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Computer Specs? You can run windows on a system that was built 10 years ago. Doesn't mean you are going to be able to run games at a higher quality. If you dont know how to find your system spec, do a search in google "How do I find my computer specs". That will guide you in the direction that will help you out. Link to comment
Agent X Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, Maxwell Santos said: i got ethernet cable with at&t Ok. This guy is trolling. HAHA. Funny FUNNY. Nex likes this Link to comment
Sean // Fitty Bread Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yes hello sir please first run a comprehensive scan with Windows defender Then please update all drivers Next try to delete system32 folders starting with the highest size folder Finally consult a technician named Hardeep Namanjeet in IT at Cisco dj.devran likes this Link to comment
Spec Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 arma is more on your processor. if you want 50+ frames on asylum you are probably gonna need a $350-400+ Processor. as for the graphics card, best thing that i found for the price was a gtx 960 or 970 Link to comment
Pentax Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 http://downloadmoreram.com/ should definitely work in your case Dork and Alex:) like this Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I am the biggest dumbass in the world so im just looking for how to get more frames so thank you to spec for helping me. sorry for giving you aids Link to comment
Spec Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Like, if you want 50 frames you are gonna need a new PC. If you know someone that can build it for you buying parts is alot cheaper in most cases. Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Which of these processors should i get? Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor, Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I54690K Desktop Processor, or Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3 GHz LGA 2011-v3 BX80648I75820K Desktop Processor Link to comment
Pentax Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Maxwell Santos said: Which of these processors should i get? Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor, Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I54690K Desktop Processor, or Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3 GHz LGA 2011-v3 BX80648I75820K Desktop Processor 4's series will work only on LGA 1150 socket, 5820k will work only on 2011-v3 socket. So, if you want to go with 5820k, you have to buy a motherboard that supports LGA 2011-V3 socket. Link to comment
Spec Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor, is good. make sure you get a motherboard with a 1150 socket though. Link to comment
Furnie Mack Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Sean // Fitty Bread said: Yes hello sir please first run a comprehensive scan with Windows defender Then please update all drivers Next try to delete system32 folders starting with the highest size folder Finally consult a technician named Hardeep Namanjeet in IT at Cisco OMG SO FUCKING FUNNNNY...... Link to comment
Spec Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Spec said: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor, is good. make sure you get a motherboard with a 1150 socket though. for the mother board which one of these? GIGABYTE GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX Intel Motherboard, MSI B85-G43 GAMING ATX Intel Motherboard, or ASRock ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX Intel Motherboard? Link to comment
Spec Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 MSI B85-G43 GAMING ATX Intel Motherboard, i would say. Link to comment
Relic Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx If you live by a Microcenter, you get great bundle deals. I got the 4790k, gigabyte motherboard and 970 graphics card. Built my entire computer for 1000. Link to comment
Spec Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Just now, Relic said: http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx If you live by a Microcenter, you get great bundle deals. I got the 4790k, gigabyte motherboard and 970 graphics card. Built my entire computer for 1000. this is why i wish i was American Link to comment
Spek Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) If you looking for a real helpful hand send me a pm. Depending on what windows your running figure out how to get to "Run" when you get there run the command "Dxdiag" without the quotes. That way I know what your working with. From there Pm me your OS, Ram, HardDrive Space (& if it's SSD) , Processor Specs and go to the display tab and let me know what video card your running. At that point I can probably give you advice from their. Edited February 10, 2016 by Spek_ Link to comment
Quenton Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Try PCPartpicker. They have a PC building tool that tells you which parts are compatible, a brief description of each part, and gives you the retailer you can buy it from for the lowest price. I built my PC using PCPartpicker http://pcpartpicker.com This way you don't end up buying incompatible parts and frying your shit.. good for newbies like my self Link to comment
CyanogenCX Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) For gaming, going from i5 to i7 won't really make much of a difference, so if you are trying to save some money get the 4690k instead of the 4790k. However you also have to take the lower clock speed into consideration. If you don't plan to overclock (which it doesn't look like you will due to your limited computer knowledge), I would recommend just getting an i5 4590 Edited February 10, 2016 by CyanogenCX Link to comment
Clint Beastwood Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, CyanogenCX said: For gaming, going from i5 to i7 won't really make much of a difference, so if you are trying to save some money get the 4690k instead of the 4790k. Most games don't use Hyper-Threading so your assumption is true, most are console ports and do not use HT. So with any other game this makes sense. However. This game supports Hyper-Threading which is only found in the i7. The advantage is there- in ArmA3 and in other PC only titles. Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I threw this together in total randomness. Is this good for arma? Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) Intel EXPI9301CTBLK 10/100/1000 Mbps PCI-Express x1 Network Adapter Kingwin FPX-003 Fan Controller Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB External Hard Drive CyberPower CP350SLG UPS Link to comment
CyanogenCX Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Clint Beastwood said: Most games don't use Hyper-Threading so your assumption is true, most are console ports and do not use HT. So with any other game this makes sense. However. This game supports Hyper-Threading which is only found in the i7. The advantage is there- in ArmA3 and in other PC only titles. From what I searched up online, there isn't really a benefit from hyper threading in arma 3, but I haven't really found any benchmarks so maybe I'm wrong. Edited February 10, 2016 by CyanogenCX Link to comment
Henry Facesmasher Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 don't listen to these guys, they are trolling you hard. You don't want intel for a processor, trust me. You want AMD. Link to comment
CyanogenCX Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Maxwell Santos said: I threw this together in total randomness. Is this good for arma? Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) Intel EXPI9301CTBLK 10/100/1000 Mbps PCI-Express x1 Network Adapter Kingwin FPX-003 Fan Controller Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB External Hard Drive CyberPower CP350SLG UPS I would recommend an SSD along with the HDD because otherwise you might get frame drops in Arma 3, or stuttering. I have arma 3 on an HDD, had it on an SSD earlier, and although I do get occasional frame drops its nothing serious. So you can keep the HDD, won't be TOO much of a difference, but definitely noticeable. If you don't need the external HDD, just get an SSD (even 128 gb works if you just plan on using it for a few games) and put it in your computer. For the GPU: Also, seeing as your graphics card doesn't even need a PCI-E connector because it gets its power straight from the motherboard, I think the 650 Watt power supply would be overkill, unless you plan on upgrading your graphics card later on. Also, I know I recommended you the Asus 750 earlier because the EVGA one was a lot more expensive, on Amazon right now, the EVGA GTX 750 Ti is $110, and the Asus one is $120. The base clock speed of the Asus is 1072MHz, and the base on the EVGA one is 1176 MHz. With boost, the Asus can get 1150MHz, and the EVGA can get 1255 MHz. So clearly, EVGA Ti SC beats out Asus Ti OC, and is $10 cheaper, so I would recommend getting that while you can. HOWEVER, on the Asus there is also a $20 rebate, so you could get it for $100 at the end, compared to the $110 for the EVGA. Ultimately, you should choose which one you want. Here are the links: http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics-GTX750TI-OC-2GD5/dp/B00IB9P1KG http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=psdc_284822_t1_B00IB9P1KG If you want a significantly better graphics card, think of getting the GTX 970, which is around $350 on amazon, or the GTX 980 which is around $500 on amazon. If you're going for a budget build and don't plan on playing the game at max settings, then the 750 ti should be perfect. Note: the 750 draws 60W of power, and the 970 does 145 watts, so if you want to get the 970 then your current power supply is fine, if you are going to get the 750 then you don't need a huge power supply. Now, for the CPU, a couple of questions: -Are you planning on overclocking? -If so, you will probably need an aftermarket cooler. Aftermarket coolers can be pretty big, so chances are they probably won't fit into a mid tower case. So if you are going to overclock, get a tower case. -If you are not planning to overclock, just get the i7 4790. This is ~$30 cheaper than the 4790k. -If you are planning to overclock, I would suggest the Cryorig H7, or the Hyper 212 Evo. The Cryorig cools better than the evo, it is quieter, and it is smaller than the Evo. So overall it is significantly better than the 212 Evo, and is only $5 more expensive. -If you are going to overclock, but want to stick with a mid-tower case, I would get the Cryorig M9i. You should easily have enough space in a mid tower case for the M9i, and it is $10 cheaper than the H7. If, after you measure out the dimensions, and find that the M9i won't fit, then just get the Cryorig C7. This will fit literally any decent case, as it is only 47mm tall, compared to 128mm for the M9i. That is pretty much it. If you have any questions for me, let me know. Edited February 10, 2016 by CyanogenCX Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 46 minutes ago, CyanogenCX said: I would recommend an SSD along with the HDD because otherwise you might get frame drops in Arma 3, or stuttering. I have arma 3 on an HDD, had it on an SSD earlier, and although I do get occasional frame drops its nothing serious. So you can keep the HDD, won't be TOO much of a difference, but definitely noticeable. If you don't need the external HDD, just get an SSD (even 128 gb works if you just plan on using it for a few games) and put it in your computer. For the GPU: Also, seeing as your graphics card doesn't even need a PCI-E connector because it gets its power straight from the motherboard, I think the 650 Watt power supply would be overkill, unless you plan on upgrading your graphics card later on. Also, I know I recommended you the Asus 750 earlier because the EVGA one was a lot more expensive, on Amazon right now, the EVGA GTX 750 Ti is $110, and the Asus one is $120. The base clock speed of the Asus is 1072MHz, and the base on the EVGA one is 1176 MHz. With boost, the Asus can get 1150MHz, and the EVGA can get 1255 MHz. So clearly, EVGA Ti SC beats out Asus Ti OC, and is $10 cheaper, so I would recommend getting that while you can. HOWEVER, on the Asus there is also a $20 rebate, so you could get it for $100 at the end, compared to the $110 for the EVGA. Ultimately, you should choose which one you want. Here are the links: http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics-GTX750TI-OC-2GD5/dp/B00IB9P1KG http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=psdc_284822_t1_B00IB9P1KG If you want a significantly better graphics card, think of getting the GTX 970, which is around $350 on amazon, or the GTX 980 which is around $500 on amazon. If you're going for a budget build and don't plan on playing the game at max settings, then the 750 ti should be perfect. Note: the 750 draws 60W of power, and the 970 does 145 watts, so if you want to get the 970 then your current power supply is fine, if you are going to get the 750 then you don't need a huge power supply. Now, for the CPU, a couple of questions: -Are you planning on overclocking? -If so, you will probably need an aftermarket cooler. Aftermarket coolers can be pretty big, so chances are they probably won't fit into a mid tower case. So if you are going to overclock, get a tower case. -If you are not planning to overclock, just get the i7 4790. This is ~$30 cheaper than the 4790k. -If you are planning to overclock, I would suggest the Cryorig H7, or the Hyper 212 Evo. The Cryorig cools better than the evo, it is quieter, and it is smaller than the Evo. So overall it is significantly better than the 212 Evo, and is only $5 more expensive. -If you are going to overclock, but want to stick with a mid-tower case, I would get the Cryorig M9i. You should easily have enough space in a mid tower case for the M9i, and it is $10 cheaper than the H7. If, after you measure out the dimensions, and find that the M9i won't fit, then just get the Cryorig C7. This will fit literally any decent case, as it is only 47mm tall, compared to 128mm for the M9i. That is pretty much it. If you have any questions for me, let me know. so, would the build i have now fry anything? Link to comment
CyanogenCX Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Maxwell Santos said: so, would the build i have now fry anything? If you overclock your cpu high enough it will thermal throttle, seeing as you have a stock cooler. Obviously this isn't good for its life. Otherwise the build you have right now is fine. Look into what I said about graphics cards and cpu overclocking. Overclocking makes a huge difference in arma and so you should look for an after market cooler. Nowadays computer parts can automatically track how they are doing so you shouldn't have to worry about frying. Link to comment
Cre Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'd suggest http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc over Asylum forums, based on the many responses you're getting. vital likes this Link to comment
JonSnow Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Maxwell Santos said: i got ethernet cable with at&t I am sorry. Link to comment
Ghost0fDawn Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 In the case of Arma, GPU is really not the main factor. Sure, hitting your GPU limit by cranking up the render distance of everything is going to kill your framerate, the CPU is heavily used in Arma 3. Also, multiplayer simply isn't well optimised, and servers generally hit you by limiting your framerate anyway. I play with a 980ti and run the game in 4K, reducing down to 1440 or even 1080p gives minimal effect on my FPS when playing multiplayer due to the fact that the cause of FPS drop is far more relevant to the CPU and all the processes Arma 3 is handling. You want PER CORE performance on your CPU in this game. Hands down. Getting an 8-core hyperthreaded processor is not going to help you much, only leave you with CPU power going unused. A top tier i5 is a great bet. even i7 is good, but they aim for handling more multitasking and doing more at once rather than having full strength on a single job. Link to comment
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