Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) What's everyone's opinions on having names hidden from afar? So far in my experience it's good for rebels bad for everyone else. Most certainly will increase role play in all aspects, though. A little buggy still, had someone 10ft from me and still couldn't identify him.. lol Edit 1 (adding information from @Gnashes about Masks): Range at which your identity is hidden: 5 meters+ Masks that hide your identity: Balaclava black ,Balaclavacombat, Balaclava lowprofile, Balaclava oli, Bandanna aviator, Bandanna beast, Bandanna blk, Bandanna khk, Bandanna oli, Bandanna shades, Bandanna_sport, Bandanna_tan, Balaclava_TI_G_blk_F, Balaclava_TI_blk_F, Balaclava_TI_G_tna_F, Balaclava_TI_tna_F Edited January 17, 2017 by Bear 2.0 Link to comment
Guest Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: What's everyone's opinions on having names hidden from afar? So far in my experience it's good for rebels bad for everyone else. Most certainly will increase role play in all aspects, though. A little buggy still, had someone 10ft from me and still couldn't identify him.. lol 15 feet. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: 15 feet. 15 feet and closer should identify them? Link to comment
Xehons Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: What's everyone's opinions on having names hidden from afar? So far in my experience it's good for rebels bad for everyone else. Most certainly will increase role play in all aspects, though. A little buggy still, had someone 10ft from me and still couldn't identify him.. lol Still havent tried but are masks like the bandanas or face mask or both Link to comment
Guest Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: 15 feet and closer should identify them? 5 Meters (15 feet...ish) I've got nothing to do with design; I just re-added it. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Xehons said: Still havent tried but are masks like the bandanas or face mask or both I believe, @Gnashes correct me if I'm wrong, it's full face masks only. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: 5 Meters (15 feet...ish) I've got nothing to do with design; I just re-added it. Okay that's good to know, thanks! Link to comment
Guest Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: I believe, @Gnashes correct me if I'm wrong, it's full face masks only. Uhhhh life_masks = ["G_Balaclava_blk","G_Balaclava_combat","G_Balaclava_lowprofile","G_Balaclava_oli","G_Bandanna_aviator","G_Bandanna_beast","G_Bandanna_blk","G_Bandanna_khk","G_Bandanna_oli","G_Bandanna_shades","G_Bandanna_sport","G_Bandanna_tan","G_Balaclava_TI_G_blk_F","G_Balaclava_TI_blk_F","G_Balaclava_TI_G_tna_F","G_Balaclava_TI_tna_F"]; ^ Those Link to comment
Dredd Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I saw a civ run away from his buddy in the HQ because of it. Very awesome for UC. Bear 2.0 likes this Link to comment
henky Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 remove it. inc alot of rdm reports Treeontyn, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz, massi and 1 other like this Link to comment
BlackShot Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) In my opinion, it's a bit OP the way it is. Last night I was downed by at least 3 bounty hunters because they didn't know if I was the guy they were chasing or not. Initiation with helicopters and cars has become way more difficult. If you wanna get into a fight in a stealthy way you're not gonna be able to initiate with anyone with masks, so the only way is to push or to have someone to initiate for you. As a first step on trying to balance them I'd suggest either adding talents (or editing the current ones) or even making masks rarer/one specific item. Finding out another way to initiate with Unknown people would also be a great thing. I have particularly seem servers where we could aim at the person, press a button and it would open an UI to send them a message (cursorTarget, @Gnashes know what I mean). But that should be a lot of work. Edited January 17, 2017 by BlackShot Mr. Linux and Treeontyn like this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 It's aids Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz likes this Link to comment
Fr0ZoR Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mr. Fudger said: It's aids I do not like it also, but it's something everyone has to deal with. Link to comment
FudgeR Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Turning into nopixel rip Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, Gnashes said: Uhhhh life_masks = ["G_Balaclava_blk","G_Balaclava_combat","G_Balaclava_lowprofile","G_Balaclava_oli","G_Bandanna_aviator","G_Bandanna_beast","G_Bandanna_blk","G_Bandanna_khk","G_Bandanna_oli","G_Bandanna_shades","G_Bandanna_sport","G_Bandanna_tan","G_Balaclava_TI_G_blk_F","G_Balaclava_TI_blk_F","G_Balaclava_TI_G_tna_F","G_Balaclava_TI_tna_F"]; ^ Those Thanks! 21 minutes ago, Dredd said: I saw a civ run away from his buddy in the HQ because of it. Very awesome for UC. Hahaha I never thought of its' use for undercover officers! 21 minutes ago, henky said: remove it. inc alot of rdm reports Explain? 20 minutes ago, BlackShot said: In my opinion, it's a bit OP the way it is. Last night I was downed by at least 3 bounty hunters because they didn't know if I was the guy they were chasing or not. Initiation with helicopters and cars has become way more difficult. If you wanna get into a fight in a stealthy way you're not gonna be able to initiate with anyone with masks, so the only way is to push or to have someone to initiate for you. As a first step on trying to balance them I'd suggest either adding talents (or editing the current ones) or even making masks rarer/one specific item. Finding out another way to initiate with Unknown people would also be a great thing. I have particularly seem servers where we could aim at the person, press a button and it would open an UI to send them a message (cursorTarget, @Gnashes know what I mean). But that should be a lot of work. I think it's cool for us that like to play rebel, but maybe be able to identify at a further range. Perhaps 10m? 7m? Initiation with helicopters is going to have to be by warning shots I think. The best bet for Initiation is have someone initiate for you or get close enough to get the names for you. Talents would be cool Link to comment
henky Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bear 2.0 said: Explain? No need to explain right ? People who receive a text message to put their hands up or get out don't know from who its coming if they are 15meters away. So they will just shoot every random civ they see. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, henky said: No need to explain right ? People who receive a text message to put their hands up or get out don't know from who its coming if they are 15meters away. So they will just shoot every random civ they see. You won't get a text, because whoever it is trying to initiate won't know who to text. You will have to speak in direct or get someone to run up and get a name. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Another thought is should police be allowed to ask civs to remove masks in town? So they can determine identities? Link to comment
henky Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: You won't get a text, because whoever it is trying to initiate won't know who to text. You will have to speak in direct or get someone to run up and get a name. Well its possible to drive past them to get their names and send a text from a distance..... Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, henky said: Well its possible to drive past them to get their names and send a text from a distance..... True, could do that. Link to comment
Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I think there will be a lot more mistaken rdm because of these masks. I think we were better off without them. Treeontyn, BlackShot, Phil. and 1 other like this Link to comment
Maaqs Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I like the idea of it. Hiding your identity from a distance adds a new variable/playstyle that people just need to adapt to. Don't be so quick to say "it's aids/remove it" simply because it's something new (well, re-added). Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz said: I think there will be a lot more mistaken rdm because of these masks. I think we were better off without them. I think it will definitely add to the RDM reports, haha. Just now, Maaqs said: I like the idea of it. Hiding your identity from a distance adds a new variable/playstyle that people just need to adapt to. Don't be so quick to say "it's aids/remove it" simply because it's something new (well, re-added). Yeah I like the idea of it. Hopefully we can help @Gnashes, @bamf, and @Paratus improve on it with some of our ideas Link to comment
Quenton Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Pros - Someone can't text you from 300 meters while your spooling up your helicopter. - Makes sense because theirs no actual way to identify someone from far away if their wearing a mask (we are an rp server guys come on) Cons - I can't tell which gang member is which.. - Fuck rp hands up or die bitch - How do you report someone for VDM or someshit if their name is UNKNOWN Link to comment
Reformed epTic Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 who needs to know names to submit reports when the majority of bans just get turned over because everyone is friends with an admin these days Sandra Bollock, Furnie Mack, Dork and 2 others like this Link to comment
Furnie Mack Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Complete aids. Edited January 17, 2017 by Furnie Mack Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Quenton said: Pros - Someone can't text you from 300 meters while your spooling up your helicopter. - Makes sense because theirs no actual way to identify someone from far away if their wearing a mask (we are an rp server guys come on) Cons - I can't tell which gang member is which.. - Fuck rp hands up or die bitch - How do you report someone for VDM or someshit if their name is UNKNOWN 1) yes unless you are spooling in a red zone 2) I agree completely 3) are you talking about your gang or an enemy gang? Your gang the names show up when you're in a group. Andtheirs you can just initiate with one and blast him, then they all go red 5) well if you're RDM'ed by them then look at chat, but vdm they should be close enough to see their name Link to comment
Quenton Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Bear 2.0 said: 1) yes unless you are spooling in a red zone 2) I agree completely 3) are you talking about your gang or an enemy gang? Your gang the names show up when you're in a group. Andtheirs you can just initiate with one and blast him, then they all go red 5) well if you're RDM'ed by them then look at chat, but vdm they should be close enough to see their name 3. My own gang?? Why would I need to know who was who in an enemy gang lel 5. Sure, but if the are 200m away, smash your orca and run.. welp rip Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Quenton said: 3. My own gang?? Why would I need to know who was who in an enemy gang lel 5. Sure, but if the are 200m away, smash your orca and run.. welp rip 3) your gangs names will be revealed to you at any range I believe 5) not sure what you're talking about haha Link to comment
Berus Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, Bear 2.0 said: 5) not sure what you're talking about haha If your orca is landed and someone hits it with a car and explodes it you have no way to know who it was Link to comment
Quenton Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 47 minutes ago, Bear 2.0 said: 3) your gangs names will be revealed to you at any range I believe 5) not sure what you're talking about haha 3. False. 14 minutes ago, Berus said: If your orca is landed and someone hits it with a car and explodes it you have no way to know who it was 5. ^^^ Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, Berus said: If your orca is landed and someone hits it with a car and explodes it you have no way to know who it was Well it will say "bill was killed" at the same time as you. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Quenton said: 3. False. 5. ^^^ Well then that should be added hands down Link to comment
JIMBO Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 If under aggression the mask should be rendered useless, name should show for those who are in aggression regardless of the distance Goofy, Bear 2.0, Furnie Mack and 1 other like this Link to comment
Quenton Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 40 minutes ago, Bear 2.0 said: Well it will say "bill was killed" at the same time as you. Your not understanding lol. Someone can vdm and explode your orca without dieing. And if you wern't near the orca and all you saw was unknown then they will never know who it was Link to comment
Guest Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Bear 2.0 said: 3) your gangs names will be revealed to you at any range I believe I can make this a thing; easily. 42 minutes ago, Jimbo said: If under aggression the mask should be rendered useless, name should show for those who are in aggression regardless of the distance That's going to be a Bamf/Paratus thing. Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, Gnashes said: I can make this a thing; easily. That's going to be a Bamf/Paratus thing. Definitely think this should be a thing! @bamf @Paratus Link to comment
Phil. Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Kinda good, kinda sucks...Meh... Link to comment
Bear 2.0 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, Phil. said: Kinda good, kinda sucks...Meh... Add to the discussion @Phil.! What do you like? What do you dislike? Link to comment
Chorizo Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I think the change is great! I think changes that force more RP can only improve the experience. In addition - anything that makes bounty hunting more challenging should be supported and encouraged Hopefully this will cut down on some of the sketchy bounty hunting tactics. For example the classic "I told you to stop bro, I don't know how you didn't hear me!" after you are downed 100+ yards away while cruising down the highway. Bear 2.0 likes this Link to comment
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