drex Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Currently have a i7 5820k and nvidia 970. I get pretty good fps at cartels on lowish settings. but when i go into cities my frams drop. It’s definitely better than some peoples experience but I spend a lot of time on arma and I want to upgrade. Should I upgrade to nvidia 1080 and/or a i7 6700k. I want to know what each would do cost vs preformance (as in would it be worth the money). What would each do individually? and if i do happen to get both what would that do to the preformance. I’m looking to see whether i should go with just a cpu/gpu upgrade, or maybe just upgrade both. What do y’all think?? Edited November 14, 2017 by drex DosWolf likes this Link to comment
Mitch (IFRIT) Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Before anything get a ssd conthegodoffire, Twinkie, Bishop and 3 others like this Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Mitch (IFRIT) said: Before anything get a ssd I have one but i do not have arma 3 on it... actually i might i will check tonight thanks Link to comment
General Baked Potatoes Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, drex said: Currently have a i7 5820k and nvidia 970. I get pretty good fps at cartels on lowish settings. but when i go into cities my frams drop. It’s definitely better than some peoples experience but I spend a lot of time on arma and I want to upgrade. Should I upgrade to nvidia 1080 and/or a i7 6700k. I want to know what each would do cost vs preformance (as in would it be worth the money). What would each do individually? and if i do happen to get both what would that do to the preformance. I’m looking to see whether i should go with just a cpu/gpu upgrade, or maybe just upgrade both. What do y’all think?? How much RAM do you have ? Thats a very important factor for a game like Arma which uses a lot of Ram. Now between your CPU and your GPU the weakest part is your GPU. I would upgrade that one first depending on if you have sufficient Ram. Link to comment
Ben Flint Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Arma is one of the most CPU intensive games, if I were you I'd try to play with your settings because actually at low settings most of your load is on your CPU and not GPU, try turning your settings up a bit and see if there's any performance difference. If anything, your CPU is great. Upgrade your cooling system and do a bit of overclocking and see where that gets you, and make sure Arma is on your SSD. General Baked Potatoes likes this Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Just now, General Baked Potatoes said: How much RAM do you have ? Thats a very important factor for a game like Arma which uses a lot of Ram. Now between your CPU and your GPU the weakest part is your GPU. I would upgrade that one first depending on if you have sufficient Ram. so get a 1080? also maybe add 16 to gbs of ddr4 to the 16 i currently have? Edited November 14, 2017 by drex Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Just now, ben flint said: Arma is one of the most CPU intensive games, if I were you I'd try to play with your settings because actually at low settings most of your load is on your CPU and not GPU, try turning your settings up a bit and see if there's any performance difference. If anything, your CPU is great. Upgrade your cooling system and do a bit of overclocking and see where that gets you, and make sure Arma is on your SSD. I don’t want to tweak my settings and worry about that. i have done that for so long i’m just ready to upgrade and see where it gets me. i’m gonna put it on my ssd tonight Edited November 14, 2017 by drex Link to comment
Ben Flint Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, drex said: I don’t want to tweak my settings and worry about that. i have done that for so long i’m just ready to upgrade and see where it gets me. i’m gonna put it on my sad tonight I meant tweak your arma settings. Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, ben flint said: I meant tweak your arma settings. yeah my view distance is super low. I really want to get upgrade so that i can have a better frame rate and make my setting a little higher Link to comment
Ben Flint Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, drex said: yeah my view distance is super low. I really want to get upgrade so that i can have a better frame rate and make my setting a little higher right, but what I'm saying is that if you raise your settings your FPS may be better because you'll be using your GPU and not all CPU. Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, ben flint said: right, but what I'm saying is that if you raise your settings your FPS may be better because you'll be using your GPU and not all CPU. ohhh gotcha makes sense Ben Flint likes this Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 what setting should i raise/lower? @ben flint Link to comment
Ben Flint Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, drex said: what setting should i raise/lower? @ben flint It's different for everyone, go into GeForce experience and see what recommended settings they have for you and go from there. Link to comment
DosWolf Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 First thing is first it is spelled performance lets fix that first. Link to comment
Xavorey Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Arma = CPU Ben Flint likes this Link to comment
Norwegianviking Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 5820k will last you years, if you want more performance out of it then start OC. No upgrade will give you a really big increase in FPS. Save your money and buy your mom and dad a special Christmas present. Link to comment
ImJustMaikey Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) You don't really need a i7 for arma. Mostly for editing and such. I5's can be fine enough. Ofcourse if u don't care about money go for i7 Adding arma on your SSD will help out aswel. Also what motherboard do u use? That can be an upgrade aswel Edited November 14, 2017 by ImJustMaikey Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Norwegianviking said: 5820k will last you years, if you want more performance out of it then start OC. No upgrade will give you a really big increase in FPS. Save your money and buy your mom and dad a special Christmas present. haha. they would be buying me the upgrades. Link to comment
drex Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, ImJustMaikey said: You don't really need a i7 for arma. Mostly for editing and such. I5's can be fine enough. Ofcourse if u don't care about money go for i7 Adding arma on your SSD will help out aswel. Also what motherboard do u use? That can be an upgrade aswel MSI i don’t know the specifics Link to comment
william Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Norwegianviking said: 5820k will last you years, if you want more performance out of it then start OC. No upgrade will give you a really big increase in FPS. Save your money and buy your mom and dad a special Christmas present. what if they ran away? Link to comment
General Baked Potatoes Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, drex said: so get a 1080? also maybe add 16 to gbs of ddr4 to the 16 i currently have? You have sufficient Ram, 16GB is the good. Like most people recommended i would put Arma on your SSD and bring up your settings a bit. But so far from what i see your weakest part is your GPU BUT because you have everything on low you are not using much of your GPU anyways, you gotta have that balance in usage between your CPU and GPU. CPU's can't take all the load Link to comment
Keneith Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 I went from a hd to a SSD and gained 30 frames, went from some piece of crap rebranded and Radeon card to a 1080 and only gained like 15 frames. I'd definitely make sure it's on your SSD Cougar. likes this Link to comment
Treeherder Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Disclaimer: My advice is probably the best on this topic! I run on full ultra and get 60+ fps everywhere (including Kavala). My specs are i5 6600k overclocked to 4.2GHz, EVGA 1060 SSC, FAST DDr4 RAM, and an SSD. Overclock your cpu and gpu if you can. invest in fast DDR4 ram, or up it's speed in the bios (some have this option), and GET AN SSD. Arma is relatively light with ram usage so it has to constantly be reading/writing to and from your disk, thus fast ram and an SSD are essential; doing this will eliminate your frame drops when scoping in and in cities. Your Cpu and Gpu should be fine as are, just try overlocking and be sure to set your launch options to optimize all your RAM, VRAM, CPU cores, and hyper-threading if you have it. Edited November 14, 2017 by Treeherder Cougar. and drex like this Link to comment
Axe Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 IMO, upgrade to a 1080. Not because it will make a difference in ARMA, but because it will future proof you for other games. The CPU is fine, add a decent OC and you're fine. SSDs usually make no difference in actual gameplay as they mostly effect loading times and shouldn't matter once things are loaded. They can give you a decent pagefile though, but pagefiles normally won't help much in games. People saying buy high speed ram, why do you hate money? It's been shown that RAM over 2666mghz makes almost no difference in 90% of games. Also, you don't need more than 16gbs of RAM unless you're running 5 adobe applications and VMs concurrently. And whoever said upgrade MOBO, as log as your mobo has enough slots for you and offers decent OC options as well as runs a fairly up to date chipset, don't bother. Link to comment
Axe Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Also. I have a 770 (3gb) 16gb of some random ass ram and an i7 3770k @ 3.9ghz. I get plenty of FPS on Olympus and decent FPS on Asylum and decent FPS in most games ad medium-low. Please don't waste your money upgrading your PC to get FPS solely on a dying and poorly coded server. Upgrades do not guarantee you better FPS on Asylum or ARMA in general. They serve simply as future proofing. When you see people's 60FPS videos and streams, thats often smoother than their actual gameplay. Video post-processing and rendering often make footage look far better than it does IRL. Edited November 14, 2017 by Axe Link to comment
JeffNotey Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Axe said: It's been shown that RAM over 2666mghz makes almost no difference in 90% of games. arma is in the 10% Link to comment
Cougar. Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 I play on a laptop and get 60 frames most of the time, first off what you should try doing is opening up your documents and going to the folder Arma 3 - Other Profiles and opening a notepad, it will be what ever name you play in game with <- It will look like the 2nd name in that picture and after you open the notepad scroll to the bottom where it says scene complexity and set it to 200000 no more, no less. This should up you about 20-30 fps. drex likes this Link to comment
Blake Kingsin Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 uhhh id fix your settings first bc i play on all high settings with an exception of a few that don't matter with 40 fps on full server in/out of city and 70 on a server with ~30 people with an i5 4460 3.2ghz, 8gb ddr3 1600mhz, and a 750ti 2gb and no ssd. drex likes this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Cougar. said: I play on a laptop and get 60 frames most of the time, first off what you should try doing is opening up your documents and going to the folder Arma 3 - Other Profiles and opening a notepad, it will be what ever name you play in game with <- It will look like the 2nd name in that picture and after you open the notepad scroll to the bottom where it says scene complexity and set it to 200000 no more, no less. This should up you about 20-30 fps. your still trying to convince people u play on a laptop you fool drex and Cougar. like this Link to comment
DJB Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, drex said: Should I upgrade to nvidia 1080 Yes if you can afford to upgrade everything do it if you want to. I've been saving up personally and am about to make the same upgrades. hello ultra. Also getting a nice monitor myself which I recommend my friend. Edited November 15, 2017 by DJB Link to comment
drex Posted November 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 11 hours ago, DJB said: Yes if you can afford to upgrade everything do it if you want to. I've been saving up personally and am about to make the same upgrades. hello ultra. Also getting a nice monitor myself which I recommend my friend. I I have decided to upgrade my computer case exchange the part into the new better call computer case and then going to overclock my 5820k because it is not running at its optimal levels and replace my 970 with a 1070. Link to comment
drex Posted November 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 16 hours ago, Treeherder said: Disclaimer: My advice is probably the best on this topic! I run on full ultra and get 60+ fps everywhere (including Kavala). My specs are i5 6600k overclocked to 4.2GHz, EVGA 1060 SSC, FAST DDr4 RAM, and an SSD. Overclock your cpu and gpu if you can. invest in fast DDR4 ram, or up it's speed in the bios (some have this option), and GET AN SSD. Arma is relatively light with ram usage so it has to constantly be reading/writing to and from your disk, thus fast ram and an SSD are essential; doing this will eliminate your frame drops when scoping in and in cities. Your Cpu and Gpu should be fine as are, just try overlocking and be sure to set your launch options to optimize all your RAM, VRAM, CPU cores, and hyper-threading if you have it. Thanks! Yes i’ve decide to get a new case which will allow me to overclock my i7 5820k and then i’m going to get a 1070 so i should be good to go! Link to comment
drex Posted November 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 15 hours ago, Cougar. said: I play on a laptop and get 60 frames most of the time, first off what you should try doing is opening up your documents and going to the folder Arma 3 - Other Profiles and opening a notepad, it will be what ever name you play in game with <- It will look like the 2nd name in that picture and after you open the notepad scroll to the bottom where it says scene complexity and set it to 200000 no more, no less. This should up you about 20-30 fps. I will try this. Hopefully this isnt a meme that will get me script banned lmao. Link to comment
Tusken Raider Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, drex said: Thanks! Yes i’ve decide to get a new case which will allow me to overclock my i7 5820k and then i’m going to get a 1070 so i should be good to go! You should get one of these https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181103 Link to comment
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