Tom Kappa

I believe I came off entirely wrong on that post, But Trotfox summed it up quite while, And considering there was more no voters on the post I believe it is something that should be looked at / Feedback given into. The reason I said I don't care is a lot of officers don't like to speak there opinion on certain things involving the APD as it could reflect badly, Not the fact that I don't care about the topic. @Trotfox gave a fantastic response on this that I believe should be better on what I was trying to get across
"I think action should only transfer from civ to cop and vice versa if it's a severe offense. For (not totally accurate) example: If I accidentally kill someone on civ because I didn't know my group hadn't properly initiated, it shouldn't give me points on cop. If I improperly use lethals and accidentally rdm a civ in the crossfire on cop during a gun fight, I should only get me point, not a ban. The only time it should carry over is for perm bans, duping account wipes, mass rdm, those things. You essentially have 2 different identities with two sets of expectations, when you're not representing the police force you should be held to the same low standards as everyone else. When you're on cop you should be held to the higher standards that are in place because it IS a whitelisted position that even a noob can recognize, however each side you play on shouldn't have bearing on the other. This is especially true for people that want to mess around on civ and have fun in their own way without necessarily breaking server rules, yet they still get points and the like for inappropriate behavior over petty things like 911 calls.
TL;DR Two sides, two identities, two sets of expectations, and two different punishment processes."
 
Could we be constructive with this post and try to keep it on the topic? Although I know it will end up off-topic and locked eventually 

I believe I came off entirely wrong on that post, But Trotfox summed it up quite while, And considering there was more no voters on the post I believe it is something that should be looked at / Feedback given into. The reason I said I don't care is a lot of officers don't like to speak there opinion on certain things involving the APD as it could reflect badly, Not the fact that I don't care about the topic. @Trotfox gave a fantastic response on this that I believe should be better on what I was trying to get across
"I think action should only transfer from civ to cop and vice versa if it's a severe offense. For (not totally accurate) example: If I accidentally kill someone on civ because I didn't know my group hadn't properly initiated, it shouldn't give me points on cop. If I improperly use lethals and accidentally rdm a civ in the crossfire on cop during a gun fight, I should only get me point, not a ban. The only time it should carry over is for perm bans, duping account wipes, mass rdm, those things. You essentially have 2 different identities with two sets of expectations, when you're not representing the police force you should be held to the same low standards as everyone else. When you're on cop you should be held to the higher standards that are in place because it IS a whitelisted position that even a noob can recognize, however each side you play on shouldn't have bearing on the other. This is especially true for people that want to mess around on civ and have fun in their own way without necessarily breaking server rules, yet they still get points and the like for inappropriate behavior over petty things like 911 calls.
TL;DR Two sides, two identities, two sets of expectations, and two different punishment processes."
 
Could we be constructive with this post and try to keep it on the topic? Although I know it will end up off-topic and locked eventually 

I believe I came off entirely wrong on that post, But Trotfox summed it up quite while, And considering there was more no voters on the post I believe it is something that should be looked at / Feedback given into. The reason I said I don't care is a lot of officers don't like to speak there opinion on certain things involving the APD as it could reflect badly, Not the fact that I don't care about the topic. @Trotfox gave a fantastic response on this that I believe should be better on what I was trying to get across
"I think action should only transfer from civ to cop and vice versa if it's a severe offense. For (not totally accurate) example: If I accidentally kill someone on civ because I didn't know my group hadn't properly initiated, it shouldn't give me points on cop. If I improperly use lethals and accidentally rdm a civ in the crossfire on cop during a gun fight, I should only get me point, not a ban. The only time it should carry over is for perm bans, duping account wipes, mass rdm, those things. You essentially have 2 different identities with two sets of expectations, when you're not representing the police force you should be held to the same low standards as everyone else. When you're on cop you should be held to the higher standards that are in place because it IS a whitelisted position that even a noob can recognize, however each side you play on shouldn't have bearing on the other. This is especially true for people that want to mess around on civ and have fun in their own way without necessarily breaking server rules, yet they still get points and the like for inappropriate behavior over petty things like 911 calls.
TL;DR Two sides, two identities, two sets of expectations, and two different punishment processes."
 
Could we be constructive with this post and try to keep it on the topic? Although I know it will end up off-topic and locked eventually 

I believe I came off entirely wrong on that post, But Trotfox summed it up quite while, And considering there was more no voters on the post I believe it is something that should be looked at / Feedback given into. The reason I said I don't care is a lot of officers don't like to speak there opinion on certain things involving the APD as it could reflect badly, Not the fact that I don't care about the topic. @Trotfox gave a fantastic response on this that I believe should be better on what I was trying to get across
"I think action should only transfer from civ to cop and vice versa if it's a severe offense. For (not totally accurate) example: If I accidentally kill someone on civ because I didn't know my group hadn't properly initiated, it shouldn't give me points on cop. If I improperly use lethals and accidentally rdm a civ in the crossfire on cop during a gun fight, I should only get me point, not a ban. The only time it should carry over is for perm bans, duping account wipes, mass rdm, those things. You essentially have 2 different identities with two sets of expectations, when you're not representing the police force you should be held to the same low standards as everyone else. When you're on cop you should be held to the higher standards that are in place because it IS a whitelisted position that even a noob can recognize, however each side you play on shouldn't have bearing on the other. This is especially true for people that want to mess around on civ and have fun in their own way without necessarily breaking server rules, yet they still get points and the like for inappropriate behavior over petty things like 911 calls.
TL;DR Two sides, two identities, two sets of expectations, and two different punishment processes."
 
Could we be constructive with this post and try to keep it on the topic? Although I know it will end up off-topic and locked eventually 

See, This isn't the Justi I know.... U act like talking to the higher ups will do anything. What am I going to go into support and be like " I have a suggestion ". I more or less use this for insight from the community and other members to get both sides of the story. I also just want to throw the idea out there for people to think about

The developers have MANY other things to worry about then just cop. For example... how to keep a server of 95 players without the server dying.

I believe I came off entirely wrong on that post, But Trotfox summed it up quite while, And considering there was more no voters on the post I believe it is something that should be looked at / Feedback given into. The reason I said I don't care is a lot of officers don't like to speak there opinion on certain things involving the APD as it could reflect badly, Not the fact that I don't care about the topic. @Trotfox gave a fantastic response on this that I believe should be better on what I was trying to get across
"I think action should only transfer from civ to cop and vice versa if it's a severe offense. For (not totally accurate) example: If I accidentally kill someone on civ because I didn't know my group hadn't properly initiated, it shouldn't give me points on cop. If I improperly use lethals and accidentally rdm a civ in the crossfire on cop during a gun fight, I should only get me point, not a ban. The only time it should carry over is for perm bans, duping account wipes, mass rdm, those things. You essentially have 2 different identities with two sets of expectations, when you're not representing the police force you should be held to the same low standards as everyone else. When you're on cop you should be held to the higher standards that are in place because it IS a whitelisted position that even a noob can recognize, however each side you play on shouldn't have bearing on the other. This is especially true for people that want to mess around on civ and have fun in their own way without necessarily breaking server rules, yet they still get points and the like for inappropriate behavior over petty things like 911 calls.
TL;DR Two sides, two identities, two sets of expectations, and two different punishment processes."
 
Could we be constructive with this post and try to keep it on the topic? Although I know it will end up off-topic and locked eventually 

i rather play the fucking sims than identity 

Can't get Snapchat's if your not Chief Of Police 

random guns around a city. people start in the middle. last one alive wins 10 million dollars 

Can't get points if you're already removed @Mitch (IFRIT)

SO MANY IDEAS BUT WAIT
Its Asylum. Anymore than 20 people in one area will crash the server 

I think action should only transfer from civ to cop and vice versa if it's a severe offense. For (not totally accurate) example: If I accidentally kill someone on civ because I didn't know my group hadn't properly initiated, it shouldn't give me points on cop. If I improperly use lethals and accidentally rdm a civ in the crossfire on cop during a gun fight, I should only get me point, not a ban. The only time it should carry over is for perm bans, duping account wipes, mass rdm, those things. You essentially have 2 different identities with two sets of expectations, when you're not representing the police force you should be held to the same low standards as everyone else. When you're on cop you should be held to the higher standards that are in place because it IS a whitelisted position that even a noob can recognize, however each side you play on shouldn't have bearing on the other. This is especially true for people that want to mess around on civ and have fun in their own way without necessarily breaking server rules, yet they still get points and the like for inappropriate behavior over petty things like 911 calls.
TL;DR Two sides, two identities, two sets of expectations, and two different punishment processes.

I would just like to first off say I don't really care to be honest because I have no chance of ever becoming a cop at this point. I apologized and accepted what I did was wrong but got straight black-listed so Idc. I feel people aren't the same. Why should something you mess up on civ go and represent how you are as a cop? People literally lose there civ personalities because they are too worried about getting points being a cop. I understand you want to "Represent the server" But who gives a fuck fam. What are we honestly representing???? Especially little things that aren't even rules. Such as.... "Dude your getting an IA if u keep doing shit / I'm going to the government website" Why should that get you points on civ? Idk. This just seems like you are asking too much about the lower tier officers and what is expected of them. Because there is no possible way u can get anyone punished above Sgt+ for little things because they are high up the chain, While the lower tier officers such as - Cadet/Constable/Cpl are constantly monitored and any little slipup will have points added to them. 

I would just like to first off say I don't really care to be honest because I have no chance of ever becoming a cop at this point. I apologized and accepted what I did was wrong but got straight black-listed so Idc. I feel people aren't the same. Why should something you mess up on civ go and represent how you are as a cop? People literally lose there civ personalities because they are too worried about getting points being a cop. I understand you want to "Represent the server" But who gives a fuck fam. What are we honestly representing???? Especially little things that aren't even rules. Such as.... "Dude your getting an IA if u keep doing shit / I'm going to the government website" Why should that get you points on civ? Idk. This just seems like you are asking too much about the lower tier officers and what is expected of them. Because there is no possible way u can get anyone punished above Sgt+ for little things because they are high up the chain, While the lower tier officers such as - Cadet/Constable/Cpl are constantly monitored and any little slipup will have points added to them. 

There is obviously no one online and trying to have some fun. If u want to say that, Then why did a admin do a factor 30 earthquake when nobody was online or..... Tested some admin features with some people in square because even he wanted to know what it did. Its called having fun. Sorry being a career cop doesn't treat u well 

Just play Server 1/2 then. If u don't like the fact that it goes down just main another server 

Just play Server 1/2 then. If u don't like the fact that it goes down just main another server 

Yikes these memes are getting too real recently.

I got blacklisted so I already don't like the APD
But the one thing that pisses me off the most is genuinely trying to roleplay and getting fucked in the ass for it
Like as an example - The cops set up a checkpoint and I was messing around in a van and pulled around. So they stop me, Give me a ticket, And I felt bad b.c appearently all 3 cars that have been past the checkpoint have turned around or gone around with no rp for them. So what I did is act like someone sneaking drugs over the mexican border and took meth, Coke, Pcp, And other drugs with me (Only 1 of each) and acted like the cartel was going to kill my family. Only to be slammed with 25k+ in tickets and only a offer of parole for a replacement. I took time out of my day to try to have some fun with the cops, I mean I could do a 1-10k ticket sure but Cmon fam, I genuinely was trying to have some good rp with them. Never doing that again ill tell u that much

When you think Mitch is doing a cool server announcement but he's really just drunk again.... 

Buddy, you're drunk, go home.