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Rock Hardick

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  1. Updates and Changes

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    Can we get an anal thermometer as medic? So we can check the status of the patient and apply the correct treatment? Tired of wasting my splints and painkillers over splinters and stubbed toes 🙄

    4 hours ago, Ari Petrou said:

    If you keep on talkin smoke ima fuck you irl

    Gonna use a prophylactic I hope. The spread of STDs is no joke.

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  8. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    Just now, Olivia said:

    Sometimes I wish we could prohibit Cadets from going to Kavala.  I think it would massively improve their knowledge and abilities as a cop.  They'd actually have time to ask questions/learn and they'd have a better experience all around.  But unfortunately this is a game and we can't force people to play a certain way (not to that extent.)  The only things you'll learn in Kavala on 3 are life lessons about how people act on the internet.

    I spent my first 3 months as Cadet in Kavala- oops

  12. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    5 hours ago, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz said:

    If Paratus wanted Asylum to be a hardcore RP server he'd have designed it that way. Truth is Asylum is meant to maximize fun and be a light RP server as intended. I think your intentions are good but misplaced as Asylum isn't the community for the level of RP you think it should have. 

    It wouldn't be a hardcore RP server. The only ones who would have to agree to RP a certain way would be the cops. No one forces you to play cop, so it is not as if you cannot play if you don't RP.

    What I am suggesting actually used to be in the guidebook, which means Paratus did intend for this originally - AND IT WORKED!

  14. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    1 hour ago, Psycosis said:

    Rock, you also seem to forget this isn't a job. It's a game, where we go to relax. We shouldn't have to walk on eggshells. If you want Hardcore RP then goto a hardcore RP server. 

    Again, I disagree. The thing is that it used to be a job. If you didn't want to take the role of cop RP seriously, you got on civ. No one is forcing you to RP as if it is your job - unless you want to play on cop where you represent the server as a whole.

  15. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    6 hours ago, Psycosis said:

    There are a few things that have reduced RP on the servers in general. 

    Bounty hunters 

    • Massive boost to the bounty hunter abilities.
    • No requirement of RP for bounty hunters other then hands up or be shot
    • MX's with both lethal and non-lethal ammo 

    Rebels 

    • No incentive to RP to reduce tickets when you have massive amounts of cash that's amazingly easy to make.
    • Banks that are done to kill the APD and not make money forcing lethal's. 
    • Feds that are done to demoralize the APD to steal all the gold in the fed - I'm guilty of this one. 
    • Little to no incentive to negotiate at the bank / fed / in general, as both sides prefer to go in guns blazing as most of the time negotiations don't happen.  

    APD

    • No incentive to RP. Why reduce a ticket when you can robo cop and get a bigger payout 
    • 25K High value target. Some cops HVT when there is no real reason to do so, and when they do as soon as they hear a shot they send the person to jail.
    • Harassment from other APD officers when you pardon or reduce tickets to much
    • Higher-ups that don't care and hold the rank because they can
    • Little to no incentive to do well in the APD as promotions are more or less a gentlemen's club. Just depends on how popular or which friends you have. 
    • No reason to not be corrupt, you get temporary blacklist and get to come back in a few months. 
    • Over generalization of the rules, this allows some cops to be total scumbags and get away with it. 
    • Gangs using the APD to attack and demoralize other gangs

    Both sides Civ and APD need to make an effort to RP. One side can put as much effort into the server but unless the other side does the same nothing will change. 

     

    I disagree slightly. Although you are right that they do not have reasons to RP, the thing is that no one aside from the APD ever had an incentive to RP. The reason there was RP was because there was a foundation of RP set by the APD that gave others something to work with that allowed them to RP. That foundation was that the APD was made to RP as REAL police officers. Everything was strict, the cops feared breaking the rules in the slightest, it was a tight shift, and because we spoke in a way that civs thought we were real cops, the immersion was real and it let them RP as if they were really being arrested or talking to cops. It is way too relaxed now and I whole heartedly believe if we even change this one simple aspect back to the way it was, the RP and fun in the server would drastically improve. It's not a "real" police department anymore, just a role slot on a server.

    Granted I don't believe I could set the example as it stands, which is why I deem it necessary for everyone to swallow their pride and enlist the experts that made it that way in the first place to AT THE VERY LEAST get us started back up again with it for 2 months or so. Those experts are: Durga, LeonHearts, Nighteyes, and Shkar. With these people training the cadets and putting the Sgts and LTs in back in line, I am fully convinced Asylum can return to its former glory.

     

    5 hours ago, Dredd said:

    ^

    I've stated this many times in the past.  This right here is the key.

    Most rebels DON'T WANT TO ROLEPLAY.  PERIOD. 

    Most Bounty hunters DON'T WANT TO ROLEPLAY. PERIOD.

    Most Off Duty Cops DON'T WANT TO REPLEPLAY. PERIOD.

    Give me the name of someone who actually does and I guarantee you would only be able to generate a small list. They are the ones that are the most fun, but they are rare spawns. 

    Don't get mad at cops because they're just rolling with the punches.  And @Rock Hardick if you think for a second that Fail RP is not a regularly punished offense then you're making the wrong assumption.

    I think the "RP" nowadays is grossly overestimated. Reducing a ticket and listening to a story is not RP. I mean seriously acting like a real police officer (we ran it so tight it used to seem more like the military) that people actually feel like they are being arrested by real police. The way I see the cops acting in game is absolutely pathetic- but no one seems to care.

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  18. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    22 hours ago, Treeherder said:

    Completely untrue. I was whitelisted 3 years and a month ago and back then Roleplay was nonexistent. There was no explaining of charges; we were taught to read charges, give a ticket, then send to jail... no questions asked. Higher ups practically didn't exist and in the rare instance that one would come on most cops would avoid them and talk shit behind their backs. Durga was the only cop I ever saw roleplay and all he did was play a hardass who bent or broke the rules at every chance he got while meanwhile Edge's dick was handing out promotions to any female cop who satisfied it. The only truth you state is that there was more professionalism back then but apart from that idk where you're getting your information.

    You must've been a server 1 cop-

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  21. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    Just now, Mahdizzle said:

    Well someone has to start some where and im willing to try some shit out and see what can be done, 50cal prob wont come back unless MK1s are remvoed

    If you want to help, petition with the other Sgts and Lts to have the Captains reform the guidebook and bring us back to our former glory. Once the rules are reinstated, people will have to retrain all the cops in how to act and RP. That is going to be one hell of a job but once we have a basic grounds set, training the new cadets coming on board will be easy. Especially if they already know what to expect from watching the reformed cops in the server to begin with.

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  22. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    Just now, Mahdizzle said:

    Yeah but if you know anything I can do just tell me, I know i might be slow in the head sometimes but still xD

    Nothing you can do until it becomes a rule to act like a real life cop again. The solution has to come from the captains. Also, would be nice to have cops have the 50 cal truck again to deal with helicopters and Ifrits.

  24. Server 3 from 3 years ago

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    Just now, Olivia said:

    Not sure if you were aware @Rock Hardick (since this was a change that happened after you left) but we do punish in internal affairs for lack of RP, inappropriate breaking of character etc.

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    I mean in more of a sense of lacking RP by not acting as an actual officer. It may be in the book - but from what I've seen, you would need to punish almost every cop on the force as it has turned into nothing more than a slot on the server.

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  25. Server 3 from 3 years ago

    in Suggestions and Feedback (archived)

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    4 minutes ago, Cobra said:
    4 hours ago, Spek said:

    Well if your going back 3 years then..........Crack the whip of the late great durgessa, The OG Nighteyes, and toss a bamf in their.        It is supposed to be taught on the apd end that, promotions for any higher up are based on at least 1/3 RP, 1/3 Knowledge of APD Guidelines and rules,  1/3 Experience of knowing how to handle themselves and situations .

    Rules/ regulations/ guidelines can  be implemented but of course not everyone will follow them.  It's needed of always having RP but do you any ideas how to implement making sure the APD end follows?   It's a difficult tight rope to walk keep things balanced for everybody to have fun :). 

    Of course! The way to implement it is the way we used to! No promotions unless you show exemplary RP. If you lack RP, you get talked to until you get the standard right (might be a bit foggy but it really was a rule and it was enforced). Another incentive to make people more focused on RP rather than robocopping is to let them have MONEY again. The old arrest system where you get the full bounty rather than split it with everyone worked fine and everyone was rich. Yes, not everyone who worked on a hard arrest got paid, but in the end everyone loved the payday and everyone's pockets were lined with gold so they didn't care about making sure the person got a ticket. As it stands, cops are so broke that they want (and need) every penny from every arrest, especially since we now have to buy our own equipment (which is a good thing, don't change that).

    But to answer your question more direct, enforce the RP the way as described and bring back the old money arrest system.

    @Olivia @Rock Hardick

    Even if P3 is/was known for it's pro-RP game-play there's many things that work against this idea from taking root. 

    While I do agree stricter rules and a more active leadership may weed out the riff-raff, I feel this is only a band-aid fix to gaping wound. The egos / power-trip mentality that is fostered in the APD will always be found throughout the ranks. The cops who are whitelisted demonstrate some level of competence to be a cadet and hopefully display some maturity/discipline to be a Constable who properly uses their primary weapon. By default we all APD personnel are on paper RP oriented players. Some cops also just don't like processing, so you get issues there as well.

    We're also not factoring the other side of this perspective, the civs. You can't sustain the idea of "more RP friendly server" if the civs are not willing to meet you halfway or even 20 precent of the way. Civs/rebels that prefer to be toxic or unwilling to RP make it hard for even the most easy going RP friendly cops. If more RP is wanted it needs to be a collective approach not by just the APD. We are taught from day one to use our primary weapon before firing rounds, civs don't need that so long as they do the bare minimum RP that prevents  them from being ban. Also civs aren't punished for having an aggressive play-style with little RP, while cops are will be lectured or even punished for being that way. This can be frustrating for cops trying to have fun and promote RP.     

    Also we're not being realistic here, A LOT has changed in the past three years. New weapons, new Asylum game mechanics (bounty system, new activities, market system/values), the cultural shift in rebel life (frequency of cartel fights, prison, fed/bank robberies, etc.) and APD policy changes. This affects how cops and civs interact with each other in Asylum. For example, when many rebels would rather Alamo Fed / Bank Roof and vest HQ, that doesn't foster more RP. Civs chanting Higher-up Requests  and threatening IA reports / ban reports for 10 minutes doesn't foster RP. Civs taking cops from locked houses doesn't foster RP. This and MANY other civ shenanigans only promote more combat than RP, depending on the person/group you might get some good RP. Sadly, most folks rather be salty than RP. 

    TL;DR: Asylum has changed the past 3 years, so you can't expect things to be like they were 3 years ago. If more RP is wanted, then both cops AND Civs need to cultivate this idea. As many have said, Asylum is a light RP server, so you can't expect RP gold from everyone. 

    I strongly disagree. The civs have a choice to go along with RP or not. It is the APD's responsibility to set a base for the RP to stem off of in every situation, should the civs choose to RP back. If not, the cop is still RPing as a cop, and that is good enough. The point is that if you make it so that people see you more as an officer rather than some kid in a different role slot, RP will naturally follow as it did 3 years ago, regardless of server trends.

    Remember when you had to take the people back to the HQ to search them and give them a ticket? That should be re-implemented  as well as it bred unmatched RP experience and allowed for people lying in wait to do one of the things that made Asylum great - plant drugs and other contraband on people before they were searched.

    If we go back to the roots and enforce a mandatory RP at least as far as being a cop goes, not necessarily RP every situation but at least RP as a cop (hence the light RP server), it will start earning respect from civilians and start making RP possible and a hell of a lot easier.

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