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Mosin Nagant

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Subsonic ammo isn't available in Asylum. Suppressors on a 5.56 would be almost purely cosmetic. You still hear the snapping report of the bullet breaking the sound barrier and can determine the location from that assuming the shooter is farther than 300m away. Anything closer and you can still clearly hear the bang. I've played on Life servers that have suppressed 5.56. There's barely a difference on anything larger than 9mm. Give the cops 6.5 suppressors as an equalizer. 

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Ebola

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4 hours ago, Dust Runner said:

Subsonic ammo isn't available in Asylum. Suppressors on a 5.56 would be almost purely cosmetic. You still hear the snapping report of the bullet breaking the sound barrier and can determine the location from that assuming the shooter is farther than 300m away. Anything closer and you can still clearly hear the bang. I've played on Life servers that have suppressed 5.56. There's barely a difference on anything larger than 9mm. Give the cops 6.5 suppressors as an equalizer. 

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Ghost0fDawn

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6 hours ago, Dust Runner said:

Dunno why everyone's gotta harp on the Wings. It's not just career cops not wanting civs to have shit. Plenty of us play quite a lot of civilian.

It's just not knowing where you've been shot from impacts any player's experience negatively for the most part. Cops are required to roleplay with anyone they down using any weapon 9mm silenced or not, and inherently are at a disadvantage in combat most of the time because of the policies built around them to make the server a fun and friendly place to be. A civ can send you a text hands up or die, shoot you if you don't comply from some retarded location, and you will actually know nothing about what hit you other than the name of the person who just offed you.

Being shot from somewhere, not knowing where it came from, and text messages being apart of Asylum's relaxed roleplay style. These are reasons silencers are not added.

This goes double for 5.56, and not only that but if you want silencers go kidnap and roleplay with some cops in a decent manner. Guarantee you'll get a po7 with a silencer pretty fast.

Honestly, that's not been my experience at all. I've been around asylum couple years now and as of more recent you really do get nothing from cops. Most recently a cadet whom was captive by some guys I was with at the time was bantering back and forth about server rules and RDM -- blah blah. I got the two parties to grow up and find a middle ground and began discussing. He refused anything more than his hat, and after agreeing to escort him off the building and return him to the cops, I was immediately lethaled, cadet included - by the APD in a situation there should not had been lethals. Prior to that a constable I kidnapped played the "in 10 minutes i'm logging" card. and basically told me to suck it. Prior again and AS a captive officer the cops present at the time just told me and encouraged me to just log since it'd been more than 10 minutes. After I told them I wouldn't do that my captors did a PB, where the cops showed up, offered to kill me, ignoring my request not to and lethaled me, then promptly backed out of the PB. 

 

That's the unwritten APD kidnapping policy in a nutshell.

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HotWings

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10 hours ago, ProjectGemini said:

http://plays.tv/video/576e1fba03c1cf8995/asaaaf

Perfect example, even from the shooters perspective the gun is alot lower in volume.  Arma actually adds damage to firearms last i checked that had a silencer.  It sees it as extra barrel length which adds velocity and such, making a bullet hit harder (probably why cop p07 is OP)

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Brendon Smith

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On 6/24/2016 at 5:19 PM, Mosin Nagant said:

Subsonic ammo isn't available in Asylum. Suppressors on a 5.56 would be almost purely cosmetic. You still hear the snapping report of the bullet breaking the sound barrier and can determine the location from that assuming the shooter is farther than 300m away. Anything closer and you can still clearly hear the bang. I've played on Life servers that have suppressed 5.56. There's barely a difference on anything larger than 9mm. Give the cops 6.5 suppressors as an equalizer. 

lol wut? isnt SDAR Sub Sonic?

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Sheriff Rick Grimes

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Would be great to have suppressors for 9mm and 45.acp.  It would give people a reason to use SMGs.

 

On 6/24/2016 at 7:53 PM, Dust Runner said:

 

 

 

This goes double for 5.56, and not only that but if you want silencers go kidnap and roleplay with some cops in a decent manner. Guarantee you'll get a po7 with a silencer pretty fast.

 

You roleplay with a cop and after a while ask him nicely to drop his gear and he finds it the equivalent of calling him the N word.  Most cops do not drop gear no matter how well you roleplay.  Most cops turn into salty bitches and there's plenty of examples of this, even ones including captains.

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On 6/24/2016 at 2:49 PM, |Я·Ф| 1Shot said:

they should have a rule for cops saying "YOU HAVE TO ROLE-PLAY IF SOMEONE ASK YOU TO DROP YOUR GEAR YOU DO IT IF THERE IS A HOSTAGE TRY THE BEST TO MEET DEMANDS" 

They should make it a straight to jail offense if you claim your family was kidnapped, your wife was pregnant, it was in self defense, or that the MK-1 on your back is a family heirloom. 

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On ‎6‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 1:59 PM, Ebola said:

I forgot that everything Civs opt for is OP in APD eyes. Ya'll got to realize that playing with the same content without any new additions gets boring after awhile and every time some suggestion comes abroad for a push of new items it gets shot down with out any real feedback and people go on being negative to  each other with out even making a solid attempt at compromising. 

That is so true

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Mike Stmria

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Just find the appropriate cops, and give aN excellent well thought RP and you will get gear like this. Rolling in and downing them to keep them flying fir a couple minutes and say ok drop your gear is never going to happen. You need to work for this kind of weird thingsz it's not, and shouldn't be that easy 

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Not a Block

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On June 25, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Ebola said:

Suppressed 9mm and 5.56 from 100m< is like getting hit with a pebble

5.56 from 100m is a serious threat. One does not simply think before typing. As soon as they add a suppressor for 9mm, civs will put it on their PDW and kill the entire police force 

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On June 28, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Nic Rage said:

Lets be honest. For anyone saying that anything that civilians can buy is op are incorrect. The main reason why u can say that is because swat is currently broken for cop. If it was working we would see who is op. Just being honest.

Its not really that broken. We use it all the time unless it gets bugged for one server restart. Ive spawned as SWAT before and the whole team died before we could even start the strider. Think of tactics to counter it and its useless.

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Ebola

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5 hours ago, Not a Block said:

5.56 from 100m is a serious threat. One does not simply think before typing. As soon as they add a suppressor for 9mm, civs will put it on their PDW and kill the entire police force 

We each have our own opinions. Sit here and say that I didnt think before typing this was a useless counter-productive statement. As for your thoughts saying the suppressed PDW will kill the entire police force is very inaccurate

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On July 1, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Ebola said:

We each have our own opinions. Sit here and say that I didnt think before typing this was a useless counter-productive statement. As for your thoughts saying the suppressed PDW will kill the entire police force is very inaccurate

4shots to the chest from 9mm is all it takes to kill an officer. Times that by 30+ which is population of Kavala, officers will have hard time identifying where the shots are coming from.

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Ebola

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9 hours ago, Not a Block said:

4shots to the chest from 9mm is all it takes to kill an officer. Times that by 30+ which is population of Kavala, officers will have hard time identifying where the shots are coming from.

4 shots compared to 1 6.5mm round and youre telling me that a 9mm silencer scares you more than a 1 hit kill 7.62 round

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On ‎6‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 1:22 PM, Ebola said:

Could we look into possible giving Civs (rebels) the ability to buy suppressors for 9mm and 5.56 rifles please? I never understood why civs were unable to purchase them even though they're illegal carry.

might as well ask for 50 cal

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On 6/24/2016 at 2:17 PM, HotWings said:

Real life? Seriously the real life argument?  In real life you cant walk into the bank with hundreds of thousands of dollars inside with no security and open the vault with a Dewalt power drill. In real life you can shot someone with a bullet and it magically becomes a tazer when your blood level reaches below 95. In real life you cannot be revived by a defib when shot point blank in the head with a high caliber rifle.   Need I go on?  

 

This is a game.  Take your real life somewhere else.

Then what is the point of cops RPing then? They are supposed to be "real cops".

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