DaBombGamer Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I think next time they open police apps there should not be an age limit but there should be certain restrictions 1. No Squeakers 2. No trolls 3. You must be mature 4. If you happen to be underage, you must have previous experience Last but not least, you must act professional! Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 lol no why? lol Link to comment
Prestige Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 People can't control their vocal cords sir, why are you gonna deny them playing cop because of that shit they can't control. Link to comment
Demonic Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 People can't control their vocal cords sir' date=' why are you gonna deny them playing cop because of that shit they can't control.[/quote']Can't control your age.. But really -1 to these suggestions, it's good as it is. Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 People can't control their vocal cords sir' date=' why are you gonna deny them playing cop because of that shit they can't control.[/quote']It's kind of common sense. Who would love getting screamed at by a 8 year old saying *squeak APD PUT YOUR HANDS UP. No one would take him seriously Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Can't control your age.. But really -1 to these suggestions' date=' it's good as it is.[/quote'] But I think 17 is a bit over the top. If they act mature, and don't squeak I'd say they are fine Link to comment
Flax Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Your suggestions are dumb Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Your suggestions are dumb why I cri' Link to comment
Demonic Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 But I think 17 is a bit over the top. If they act mature' date=' and don't squeak I'd say they are fine[/quote'] For those few that are mature, sure, but most of the people that can't ruined it for the rest in the past. Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I dont think there should be an age requirement for an online role...rather just having the ability to uphold your duties, and lass the ride-alongs. Buckle down on the ride alongs in my opinion. Link to comment
Hiraku Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 But every 12 year old thinks he's mature... Keep it at 17. It works, no need to fuck around with it. If you think that you personally are some super special case convince a captain to grandfather you in. Link to comment
Sneaky Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Your suggestions are dumb Your comments are dumb' date=' try contributing to the discussion next time. Part of the problem with your suggestion is the inability to accurately judge these characteristics through our current application process for the APD. Someone could easily act mature and serious during the application process and then turn out to be complete opposite. We already have enough of those cops across the ranks! Age is a simple barrier that helps weed out those characteristics with the hope that meeting the age restriction will result in better character.[/font'] Link to comment
SheriffJohnBeard Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Your comments are dumb' date=' try contributing to the discussion next time. Part of the problem with your suggestion is the inability to accurately judge these characteristics through our current application process for the APD. Someone could easily act mature and serious during the application process and then turn out to be complete opposite. We already have enough of those cops across the ranks! Age is a simple barrier that helps weed out those characteristics with the hope that meeting the age restriction will result in better character.[/font'] Thank you Sneeky Link to comment
Flax Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Your comments are dumb' date=' try contributing to the discussion next time. Part of the problem with your suggestion is the inability to accurately judge these characteristics through our current application process for the APD. Someone could easily act mature and serious during the application process and then turn out to be complete opposite. We already have enough of those cops across the ranks! Age is a simple barrier that helps weed out those characteristics with the hope that meeting the age restriction will result in better character.[/font'] Didn't ask for a paragraph. Jeez Link to comment
HotWings Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 It's kind of common sense. Who would love getting screamed at by a 8 year old saying *squeak APD PUT YOUR HANDS UP. No one would take him seriously Id take them as serious as I take this thread.... Wait, I actually take them serious. Atmosphere likes this Link to comment
Olivia Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 It is a good idea to require that people be mature and not trolls, however everybody has had this idea. What we really need are good ideas on how to enforce it. How do you propose we enforce that APD applicants are all mature? EDIT: Loving the SGT logo beneath my avatar, that's dope Link to comment
Reavantos Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 But I think 17 is a bit over the top. If they act mature' date=' and don't squeak I'd say they are fine[/quote'] The amount of IA reports the staff use to get when the allowed younger people VS. now illustrate why the APD has a age 17 limit. It was aids, i don't think the Capts or the admins want that again. Link to comment
Ronald Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Didn't ask for a paragraph. Jeez One sentence was directed at you, the rest was for the OP. Fucking moron. Link to comment
Kowalski Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I know some smart, skilled squeakers and some rock-bottom idiot adults. I think the age limit is a decent guideline for statistical purposes...but ultimately the APD should let people in based on character and positive contributions to Asylum. Link to comment
Dredge Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I doubt it would happen but what if 17 for those applying the old way Under 17 if personally vouched for by a sgt or above? Sort of like being recruited. The recruiter would be helf responsible for his recruits actions. This would make sure that they only vouch for people whom they KNOW will follow the rules and be an asset to APD Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 It is a good idea to require that people be mature and not trolls' date=' however everybody has had this idea. What we really need are [i']good ideas on how to enforce it.How do you propose we enforce that APD applicants are all mature? EDIT: Loving the SGT logo beneath my avatar, that's dope Have them go through the standard procedure, application, TS interview, and then a one week ride-along. However now, you would let a Sergeant or above do the ride along, and from that point you can have the Sergeant decide if he is mature enough. If he isn't he would get denied, but if he is mature enough he would get Constable. As Kowalski said there are some immature adults, and some very mature teens under the age limit. So they should be judged solely on professionalism, and character, as well as being mature. Link to comment
Destrah Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I doubt it would happen but what if17 for those applying the old way Under 17 if personally vouched for by a sgt or above? Sort of like being recruited. The recruiter would be helf responsible for his recruits actions. This would make sure that they only vouch for people whom they KNOW will follow the rules and be an asset to APD I could get behind that as long as the person vouching doesn't complain when they receive points for what the person they vouched for did. Link to comment
Dredge Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 They cant really complain, knowing that they are held responsible before recruiting. Officers would just have to take the time to get to know them and see if they are the kind of candidate that the APD is looking for. Link to comment
rngr Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Unfortunately, in the vast majority of cases age is a great barrier to set in place to ensure a more mature police force. Yes people still slip through the cracks, but it is the best system we have. There is no way to tell maturity from a single interview and we already reserve the right to deny anyone we think would not be a good fit for the force during the interview process. We don't want squeakers slipping through either. Honestly, the age limit could probably be higher and it would improve things, but 17 is a pretty decent bar as it stands. Link to comment
Atmosphere Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I think next time they open police apps there should not be an age limit but there should be certain restrictions I honestly hope you NEVER get cop, you're a way too serious piece of shit that no one likes. Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I honestly hope you NEVER get cop' date=' you're a way too serious piece of shit that no one likes.[/quote'] Wow wtf. I am a cop on an A3L server, and an Altis Life Server. When I do my police work, I let people off easy and I try to interact with the community as much as possible. I hope I do take my job seriously, I mean that's what we are supposed to do. However I try to be that fun cop that everyone likes, while doing my job. I am known on an Altis Life Server that I am a cop on as "The Cop That's The Bomb" hence my name. When I am not responding to a call, I hang out with the community and chit chat. I try to be friendly as possible. Link to comment
Olivia Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Have them go through the standard procedure' date=' application, TS interview, and then a one week ride-along. However now, you would let a Sergeant or above do the ride along, and from that point you can have the Sergeant decide if he is mature enough. If he isn't he would get denied, but if he is mature enough he would get Constable. As Kowalski said there are some immature adults, and some very mature teens under the age limit. So they should be judged solely on professionalism, and character, as well as being mature. What you just described is a process exactly identical to what we currently have. It doesn't make any sense to make any maturity judgements during the ridealong because everyone is on their best possible behavior at that moment. I have never given a RA and thought "this person is too immature". So what you suggested changes almost nothing. If anyone is excessively immature during their cadet week, guess what, they get removed from the APD. Link to comment
DaBombGamer Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 What you just described is a process exactly identical to what we currently have. It doesn't make any sense to make any maturity judgements during the ridealong because everyone is on their best possible behavior at that moment. I have never given a RA and thought "this person is too immature". So what you suggested changes almost nothing. If anyone is excessively immature during their cadet week' date=' guess what, they get removed from the APD. [/quote'] Why is there an age limit then? As long as they do their job good I just don't understand. There are immature adults, and mature ones. Same with teens. As long as they do their job correctly there shouldn't be a problem Link to comment
Atmosphere Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Wow wtf. I am a cop on an A3L server' date=' and an Altis Life Server. When I do my police work, I let people off easy and I try to interact with the community as much as possible. I hope I do take my job seriously, I mean that's what we are [b']supposed to do. Thats the issue, it's not a fucking job, it's a videogame. Don't expect people to take shit serious on a LIGHT rp server. We don't give a shit about A3L and their shitty cops, we don't want those types of cops. Zoex likes this Link to comment
Miss Evo Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 If you don''t let trolls be cops then how would atmosphere be a cop Link to comment
Reavantos Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Why is there an age limit then? As long as they do their job good I just don't understand. There are immature adults' date=' and mature ones. Same with teens. As long as they do their job correctly there shouldn't be a problem[/quote'] New forum, same threads... Because before the age restriction, the amount of IA reports were nuts. Due to this Both the Staff of Asylum and the APD highers up will not lower the age limit. We have a good standard and a good process. Link to comment
Sneaky Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 If you don''t let trolls be cops then how would atmosphere be a cop Because he is funny. Atmosphere likes this Link to comment
Poko Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think next time they open police apps there should not be an age limit but there should be certain restrictions 1. No Squeakers 2. No trolls 3. You must be mature 4. If you happen to be underage' date=' you must have previous experience[/list'] Last but not least, you must act professional! I agree the age limit could be lowered possibly, but there should be a limit. If you have ever played on a different life server, you've seen the 12 year old cops. It's absolutely ridiculous. The powertrip on those little kids is no joke. As sneaky said, it's impossible to detect maturity within an application, and what Olivia said during a ride along. Hence why an age limit is usually a good way to weed them out. Sure, a few 14 year olds are extremely mature, but at the cost of how many aren't, it's a good system. And if it were to be lowered, maybe just to 16 or 15. I know many 16/15 year olds who are extremely mature. Link to comment
Norwegianviking Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 When the age limit changed from 16 to 18 the Internal affairs division report reduced by 75%. That kind of explains why the age limit should not be decreased again. I'm not saying everyone that is 16 will do stupid shit but they will do more then those that is 17+. Link to comment
Cobra Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think next time they open police apps there should not be an age limit but there should be certain restrictions 1. No Squeakers 2. No trolls 3. You must be mature 4. If you happen to be underage' date=' you must have previous experience[/list'] Last but not least, you must act professional! Link to comment
Infamy Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 The simple fact you actually included No Squeakers as a rule is more the Ample evidence as to why it is as it is.Such a immature thread fueled not because you feel it's unfair,but because you were denied,Stop Crusading for personal reasons. Link to comment
Ozadu Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 If you don''t let trolls be cops then how would atmosphere be a cop Because he is funny. Potato formatting Link to comment
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