Do you feel 7.62 weapons are too expensive for rebels?

[Boris]

I am simply curious, the poll doesn't hold any developmental sway.

Edited May 12, 2016 by Boris

[Miss Evo]

Just now, Boris said:

I am simply curious, the poll doesn't hold any developmental sway.

poll? what poll?

Edited May 12, 2016 by Miss Evo

[Reformed epTic]

Given how fucking OP they are? 

Nope. 

I'd gladly pay 15k-20k as a cop to penetrate everything and kill people by hitting them in the toe. 

Edited May 12, 2016 by epTic

[Boris]

1 minute ago, Miss Evo said:

poll? what poll?

 

Added it, just writing out the questions.

[HotWings]

1 minute ago, epTic said:

Given how fucking OP they are? 

Nope. 

I'd gladly pay 15k-20k as a cop to penetrate everything and kill people by hitting them in the toe. 

 

 

[Reformed epTic]

Just now, HotWings said:

 

 

Making BDPs

[Dork]

it is kind of ridiculous how  expensive the guns are.

 

it takes about 20-30 minutes to make money to be able to afford one.

[Seán That Irish Guy]

[MarchingBands]

The costs of Rebel loadouts are a balance on the Cop-Rebel fight, most of the time, the Rebels are on the better fortified positions, with these higher caliber weapons, like shooting through walls and sandbags, and a bit more punch. Cops may sometimes have a number advantage, but quite a few cops don't have the best Tactical Communication, nor do we know each other well most of the time, while it's the opposite for most Rebel gangs, voice recognition, tactics, the whole batch. Reducing the prices of Rebel loadouts would further unbalance the scale of Cops vs. Rebels... just my take on it.

[JIMBO]

unless you own nothing, then yeah, the pricing is too much (base price is 22.5k when on demand..) but if you actually put a little effort/investment into it and own 2 turfs and/or arms dealer, then its cheap as fuck, with 2 turfs and on demand I can get an mk18 for ~10k and an mk1 for 12, I know alot of s3 gangs like imperium cap 2 turfs and leave arms since it's still cheap asf

 

MK1 base price should be lowered to 16-18k though, never bought an mk1 for 22.5k, my loadouts don't even cost that most of the time

[Seán That Irish Guy]

2 minutes ago, MarchingBands said:

The costs of Rebel loadouts are a balance on the Cop-Rebel fight, most of the time, the Rebels are on the better fortified positions, with these higher caliber weapons, like shooting through walls and sandbags, and a bit more punch. Cops may sometimes have a number advantage, but quite a few cops don't have the best Tactical Communication, nor do we know each other well most of the time, while it's the opposite for most Rebel gangs, voice recognition, tactics, the whole batch. Reducing the prices of Rebel loadouts would further unbalance the scale of Cops vs. Rebels... just my take on it.

 

[~ Mike ~]

The price is understandable considering how OP the guns actually are.

[Boris]

Just now, Invade said:

The price is understandable considering how OP the guns actually are.

Can I ask what you consider to be overpowered about the 7.62?

[Nightfury]

i think the prices are ok considering the fact that these guns are the best asylum has to offer.And not only that, anyone can get 7.62 guns in 15 minutes by crafting them.

[babooshka]

threads like these are doomed due to the white knight career cops

[~ Mike ~]

Just now, Boris said:

Can I ask what you consider to be overpowered about the 7.62?

Not quite OP but against cops and such they are pretty good. Quite honestly the best guns Asylum has to offer. 

[Reformed epTic]

Just now, babooshka said:

threads like these are doomed due to the white knight career cops

do you not think my argument is fair? 

I'll go even further, then. 

keep price as they are for rebels, give access to 7.62 for cops for 30k per gun. 

[Nightfury]

6 minutes ago, epTic said:

do you not think my argument is fair? 

I'll go even further, then. 

keep price as they are for rebels, give access to 7.62 for cops for 30k per gun. 

why do you , and a lot of other people have to make this an arguement of Cops Vs Rebels?

the topic has nothing to do with cops.

[What zit tooya]

I could give 2 shits fighting cops with a 7.62 or Katiba. They will still lose most of the time.

They are way 2 much when it comes to fighting rebels vs. rebels. It drains your bank account like no other. Hardly any even carry a mk1 now without having arms and 2 turfs constantly.

I will never in my life spend 19k for a gun. It's just dumb to think anyone would lol. Plus all the additional stuff like 5k vest, 3-4k for redgulls, ammo, and medical.

[Reformed epTic]

Just now, NightFury said:

why do you , and a lot of other people have to make this an arguement of Cops Vs Rebels?

the topic has nothing to do with cops.

Because 7.62 completely shits on everything the cops have to offer?

You're buying an OP as fuck gun, you 1 shot everything, so you pay more. 

[babooshka]

Just now, epTic said:

do you not think my argument is fair? 

I'll go even further, then. 

keep price as they are for rebels, give access to 7.62 for cops for 30k per gun. 

Didn't put my opinion on the matter, I don't go out of my way to fight cops anymore.  It's boring and most of the time ends poorly due to servers constantly getting DDoS'd and people getting restless.  There is a difference between being fair and being balanced, however, and I think 7.62s for ALL cops would screw with the balance.  

On topic, I'm fine with where the Mk1/18 prices are atm.  It makes turfs/arms more valuable which is what we asked for when it came to giving cartels meaning.  Reduce the mk14 price though that gun is terrible and I'd buy it more if it was a little more expensive than the rahim

[Reformed epTic]

Just now, babooshka said:

Didn't put my opinion on the matter, I don't go out of my way to fight cops anymore.  It's boring and most of the time ends poorly due to servers constantly getting DDoS'd and people getting restless.  There is a difference between being fair and being balanced, however, and I think 7.62s for ALL cops would screw with the balance.  

On topic, I'm fine with where the Mk1/18 prices are atm.  It makes turfs/arms more valuable which is what we asked for when it came to giving cartels meaning.  Reduce the mk14 price though that gun is terrible and I'd buy it more if it was a little more expensive than the rahim

if it's 30k, it's not gonna be that unbalanced as most cops don't even buy a fucking MX @ 4k. 
 

[HotWings]

Just now, NightFury said:

why do you , and a lot of other people have to make this an arguement of Cops Vs Rebels?

the topic has nothing to do with cops.

People who play cop see how the things effect them on cop (surprise!).  Its not that hard to understand.  Im all for prices being reduced for on demand weapons, 16k I think would be a decent max point.  The constant rebel attacks on cops have eased down alot with the return of people fighting for cartels and fighting a smaller group with 762 with 2-3 cops isnt bad at all.  It was pretty shit when it was 10+ tho.

[Meow]

Its a game. I go to school and other stuff. I dont want to come home and when I actually play civilian, cap two turfs and other stuff just for my bank not to get drained when I'm fighting cartels.

[Bikstok]

Guns actually stay on the market now after restarts. I think all the gangs, who own arms dealer have a responsibility to craft some.

[Iced]

10 minutes ago, Bikstok said:

Guns actually stay on the market now after restarts. I think all the gangs, who own arms dealer have a responsibility to craft some.

 

[DreamC]

1 hour ago, epTic said:

if it's 30k, it's not gonna be that unbalanced as most cops don't even buy a fucking MX @ 4k. 
 

Because they'd rather come back endlessly with their 1k loadout.

 

52 minutes ago, Bikstok said:

Guns actually stay on the market now after restarts. I think all the gangs, who own arms dealer have a responsibility to craft some.

I agree, but cartel fights still go on for ages so its kind of annoying when you get to the black market and start getting contested.

[Bobby Swagger]

I think they are ok considering that you can make three MK18 with an offroad instead of paying 30k for them. Its all preference. 

[Midamaru]

The price is fine, most people finding it expensive are mostly those who die alot. That high price multiplied easily draibs your bank account. 

Protip: Die less

[Budbringer]

With market finally being fixed and guns stay there, Il just stock up my houses when we have 2 turfs + arms as they are very cheap.

 

 

[Cassettes]

Why not just run them? Takes 3-5 mins to fill your backpack at coke field and even less time to get 4 uncut. I've got over 20 mk18s across 4 houses. I never pay for my guns unless my gang needs an extra guy asap

[Big Bird]

8 minutes ago, Cassettes said:

Why not just run them? Takes 3-5 mins to fill your backpack at coke field and even less time to get 4 uncut. I've got over 20 mk18s across 4 houses. I never pay for my guns unless my gang needs an extra guy asap

In my experience crafting guns is useless unless you are really into turfs... Either that or you have an arms house or donor house. I get on to have fun but crafting weapons and the transportation of them is so boring and felt like a job most of the time. Same can be said for most money making methods though...

[Cassettes]

12 minutes ago, Parker said:

In my experience crafting guns is useless unless you are really into turfs... Either that or you have an arms house or donor house. I get on to have fun but crafting weapons and the transportation of them is so boring and felt like a job most of the time. Same can be said for most money making methods though...

You run drugs and other stuff to make money don't you? Think of it as that, think of how much money you'll save instead of buying the weapons, I stay at money cap cause I don't have to spend money on expensive load outs, my load outs consist of only purchasing gullie's, vests, sight and ammo. That's less than 6k for everything for a full load out, while others have to pay almost 3 times that amount.

Run guns, profit, repeat.

[Big Bird]

9 minutes ago, Cassettes said:

You run drugs and other stuff to make money don't you? Think of it as that, think of how much money you'll save instead of buying the weapons, I stay at money cap cause I don't have to spend money on expensive load outs, my load outs consist of only purchasing gullie's, vests, sight and ammo. That's less than 6k for everything for a full load out, while others have to pay almost 3 times that amount.

Run guns, profit, repeat.

I actually just fight and fill up my scotch house... Ay lmao 

It takes maybe 30 mins to gather barley and about another 30 mins to process it all. Scotch is the only efficient way of making money as of right now. I have yet to be robbed or caught by police and you don't have to do any boring ass running across the map shit. 

As for making guns, like I said; making guns feels more of a job than anything to me.

Edited May 14, 2016 by Parker

[Das Otter]

7.62 really isn't all that op...I rock the Katiba just as much as I do the mk's and that's not just because of the price difference. 

[Cassettes]

14 hours ago, Parker said:

I actually just fight and fill up my scotch house... Ay lmao 

It takes maybe 30 mins to gather barley and about another 30 mins to process it all. Scotch is the only efficient way of making money as of right now. I have yet to be robbed or caught by police and you don't have to do any boring ass running across the map shit. 

As for making guns, like I said; making guns feels more of a job than anything to me.

Same here, I make my money off of scotch, but I also run everything else, guns, vehicles, helicopters etc.