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I just posted this on another topic but it fits here aswell
 
Just to put this out there
 
This server was created as a cops and robbers kind of deal and lets face it most of the APD has always been out geared
The current problem is that when cops fight these events 1 after the other the moral and will power of wanting to go there die 10x drops and people leave when cops leave the civs who where only online to fight the cops leave and the server drops in population rather quickly, The more you remove from the APD the less likely the cops are going to want to fight, going in there free loadout for the 2x manditory lives given and just bouncing or just mass login off the server everytime an event pops (this is happining after events now)
With out cops the server has no pop at all as people will get bored if there is no risk in doing anything
 
And i understand if a small group was robbing the bank they would get annoyed that 4 ifitrs slammed them but isn't that the price you pay for doing a federal event as robbing the bank or doing another federal event isn't supose to be easy

Development suggestion: Can we add a dislike button?

I just want to go one day without someone trying to nerf the apd bro...

Fed events are either done by a group that heavily outnumbers the cops where in order for the cops to win they need to pull multiple pieces of armor and even then have a hard time winning because they go against 10+ people with better gear and explosives. But there is also the other side of the spectrum where a small group or gang tries to do a fed event and they get slammed due to the fact that the cops have the ability to pull as much armor as they want.  I think the real discussion needs to be about when the police are allowed to use certain things. The thing that needs to change is APD policy and a bit of development. 
I also know people will call me a career cop because they dont use their brain but as someone who prefers to play civ and just enjoys cop to fight fed events it is much more common to lose fed events as a cop if the numbers are even or you are outnumbered. the only time I see people crying is when they try to rob the bank with 3-4 people against 7-8 cops. It is gonna be hard to win that and you arent meant to win that. fed events are meant to be robbed my a semi-large group not a handful of people against a decent group of cops that are REQUIRED to go to the event. 
 
Development Suggestion: When a fed event is started have a message (like the swat one) that tells the APD how many people are in the group that started the event
APD Policy Change: Have a ratio of officers required to go if the group of people is smaller Ex: 4 Robbers 4 Cops are required to go with a Max of 6. (Could be called the +2 rule) Higherups get first dibs to who goes (This means that if a corporal wants to go and so do constables the corporal gets to go) and this will also incentivize wanting to get promoted in the APD. This ratio can be applied to just smaller fed events to start to see how it fits in (Gas marts, Banks, Jewelry, Shipping, whatever the higherups and devs see as balanced) 
Server Rule change: Starting a fed event and then adding more people to your group after can be punishable UNLESS you notify the APD with a 911 text of x amount of people have been added to the group. 
 
(I hope you guys can cooperate with the devs and SA’s if u guys see this as a good addition) 

How does this work for the people that have the experience and just want a better fight? You me and bherky will go and fight 9 cops with the 3 of us just because we want a challenge. I'm gonna be honest, I have 3x the amount of hours on civ then I do on cop and I was an Lt in the past. Fed events aren't being won now because the people doing them haven't played in a while or are new. Ifrits and Mks have nothing to do with it, I've won and lost plenty of fed events on both sides throughout the years and it always ends up being a skill issue or a leadership issue. Crimson alone has done 3 feds in the past 3 weeks and won all 3 of them... Now if we were to add the ratio to ONLY the Hugo's and Ivan's I would be ok with that seeing as its MEANT for newer groups and shouldn't be slammed by the entire APD. 

The management said this does not count as substantial evidence, so I have no choice but to share the video with you.
This operation is enough to prove that he is a script, and professional players cannot achieve such mouse control.

I like how you brand us as career cop without even knowing us. I only play cop when other FSA members are not online and if you FSA you should know we are all about killing cops for the cause.

Your logic makes no sense. There are only a handful of LTs and they are not online all the time. And only like 2-3 of them are any good. Why are you complaining about Ifrits?. You can easily rip them out unless you are a Athira rat with PDW in that case i can imagine your pain.

If you have fought any cartels you would know how hard it is to push a cap. How do you expect the cops to push Fed events or Athira when there are 20+ people shooting them from everywhere?. Your problem is that you haven't played cop so your speaking from one side only. Cops nowadays rage so quickly and leave. They complain that there is no incentive for them to fight a group of 10+ people.  Maybe you should work on making it enjoyable for cops to fight civ?. Maybe ask the higher ups sitting in support channel to help when there is a fed event?. I remember going to S1,S3 and S4 cop channels to help in a fed event happening in S2. Just ask them to join Fed events if they can i know you cant force them @Austin M @Djmon@Jr4life24 

The whole point of LTs is to provide better firepower and armor. 90% of the cops are zombies they push and die in their hatchbacks. If you can fight people at cartels then killing bunch of cops is way too easy.

BUT i will agree on one thing
I agree that we loose a lot of money on civ. Each loadout is appox 30k and i hate when cops just lethal you and quickly disarm and drive their hatchbacks away. Hopefully in the future making money would be easier and please reduce the price of Sui Vests 200k is too much @DarkKnight. I just have 1 mill in my acc but i cant help myself from buying more explosives 

TLDR: @Chester GoldPenispractice ripping ifrits out more. Seems like a skill issue to me. If you cant then you can always get an RPG. But make sure you don't blow up your team mates ( @Roice sorry but not sorry m8 )
 

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你的证据很好。你应该制作一个报告 @LK,

Looks like pulldowns to me not gonna lie. 

Lost track of which month it is.
Are we currently on the
"Cops would win if they pulled more armor/Cops don't use tools because they are cheap"
or on the
"Cops pull too much armor/make too much money" 

Its interesting that both sides have missed the most obvious argument for raising the chop price of APD vehicles.
Now that you can once again shed anything you like. Seems to me like it would give cops a better chance to get their vehicles back if it were being drove to a chop shop instead of the nearest gate/shed.
oddly enough raising the chop price seems like its in the best interest of both groups.

Just me though

Fed events basically domination now LOL 5 ifrits slamming every 3 minutes lotta fun 
 
 

Its not, Civs have every advantage at any federal event besides evidence and nikolis. Yall sit in deerstands and hold down right click until you see someone then quick peek them out of whatever vehicle they are pushing in. Please let me know how to push a fed in a hatchback / qilin without getting shot out because if i can figure out how to do that then by all means ill do that every event. 
I think yall stellar boys are just so used to 2015 when everyone sucked and could push in a hunter and drop on people and MAYBE get a down. I do that in a frit and still get killed. We pull 3-4 of them because were not able to get close without getting ripped by some dude holding right click on 2nd floor of any fed.
 
I have more hours on civ in 1 week than you do in 3 months... so try again?

molu was cheating anyone who thinks otherwise is a clown and doesn't have a clue

他的身份证号码:76561199112007876
 
第一视角，天花板操作
 
我无法想象他如何能以角色的精度用枪立即锁定某人的头部。
 
 
 
 

I lose them enough with the current price and with shedding back, I promise you there is no reason to up this price. 
Can I advise your broke friends to possibly do a Cocaine run?

My gang members are and they have complained that it is almost pointless to waste time doing it. Adds more risk to cops mass pulling armor

Are you that broke to chop cop ifrits  

With shedding back in the game, there's no reason not to increase the price anymore tbh

I think the point is to not incentivize chopping police armor as they use it more often than civs

+1 if u send me half of your blood money

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