Michael L

Some good points and observations in here but, no mind, certain people will just come in here and shit on it and troll. And then they will sit in their hidden TS channels with it being a mystery why battlemetrics looks like this on a Friday evening

A lot of us higherups that are in crimson literally main cop but are good friends with one another so choose to play civ together too when we feel like it. Crimson is the biggest gang on the server currently and with only a small population currently active on the server it stands to reason all the experienced players want to play in a like minded gang. While @DarkKnightwould be a great CoP I understand why @Austin M was picked due to his long tenure as an LT and his positive attitude towards the APD, also gotta remeber DK was a captain for half this servers lifetime so its only fair to give someone else a chance at captain no? Why would people stick around and continue to play if there was no progression in the APD?

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

While there are a lot of layers and variables to this discussion, many which have already been highlighted above so I will not waste my time repeating the detailed gripes from within. However I will offer a perspective from a completely different place based of my experience and history here. 
Simply put, the connection between the current staff as a whole and the player base is severely hurting right now. We saw a similar scenario occur during the Gnashes era where a large majority of the community felt like he was damaging the server more then helping. I would be hard pressed to find anyone that knew what was going on back then, to disagree with that statement. Although, and to his credit, as great as some of Gnashes efforts on the backend were that the community was mostly unaware of, they strongly disliked him solely because of how he carried himself and how he interacted with the player base.
Digging deeper into the issues from my perspective, having spent most of this servers life engaged in some part of this community whether as an average player, an LT, an admin, a backend dealings aficionado, and a retiree, I will say with absolute confidence that our current leadership with the Senior Admin team (Community Manager back in our day) is the worst its ever been in this communities history.
I do say that intentionally, but I also believe that its not entirely each of their faults either (Current SAs). If you look back to how the community was managed over the years, after Bamf and Gnashes left,@Clint Beastwoodtook over ownership (alongside@BaDaBiNg_10-8for a short time) and carried @Mitch (IFRIT) and @Leady over as CMs. We had a solid foundation of actual grown ups operating from the ground up coming from a good place and painstakingly trying to not repeat history that we all disliked about Gnashes (and Olio before that) and repair the server at the same time. When Mitch became owner he maintained this presence with the community, although I will say looking back toward the end of his era as server pop fizzled, I don't know if Blake was a great choice for CM (still have love for you buddy), Jayshawn had a better temperament but absolutely no one will ever compare to Leady.
Leady showed us what real leadership was like. He didn't get angry, he never acted like a child, he was almost overbearingly level headed. He did not feed into drama and create rules in and out of game to cater to and enable more of that same drama. He was a true leader that was passionate about helping our community and most of this servers players respected the hell out of him for it. Sure, a few here and there had qualms with Clint, Mitch and Leady just as any other ownership era but it was SIGNIFICANTLY less than it currently is. 
I point this out because its important to see that during those transitions, the servers quality of life and interaction with the staff team and the player base grew substantially. At the same time, the server file was cleaned up and added to greatly during Jesse's (paid) time here along with an incredible amount of help from Azeh and many others. What I'm saying is that the development that was happening then ALSO played a huge part of the success during that time.  
The admin team back then was much more respected in my opinion. Without nitpicking specific scenarios or even individuals right now, most of us will agree that that is no longer the case. Not saying everyone is horrible by any means either. 
I personally see how much of it went wrong with the progression of our staff team including who was added to it over the years but without proper leadership absolutely none of that will change. However, it must start somewhere. But how will it start if some of the issues at bay are almost all the way to the top? We revolutionized after Bamf and Gnashes, Clint & Bada bought the server and turned it into Asylum 2.0 and even though we didn't have 4-5 servers during their time or even Mitch's, the community was much healthier than it is today. And even if we remove development out of the equation entirely, the leadership was much stronger back then without a doubt. I don't know if it was because most of us were all older and had jobs, wives, kids and or other adult related responsibilities that we carried ourselves differently back then or what, but something was definitely different. 
I have a lot of love for all of our players and staff, past and present, anyone that has spent time here to be apart of this community, even though I enjoy banter I don't truly dislike anyone enough for it to impede my judgement. With that said, I think its silly to have someone that was permed for mass rdm to later not only become an admin, then a captain, but now also a Senior Admin leading our admin team and our community. If you look at the problems we are currently facing within the community and you think that lack of respected leadership isn't the most important issue, I regret to inform you, you are part of the problem. I'm not just trying to pick on people either, I just genuinely believe the lack of trusted and respected leadership is the core of the issues we are seeing and the more we ignore that and bicker about the little things, the less anything will change. 
Its a trickle down effect from there honestly as well. Favorites are played and friends of certain people are being brought up as staff without thorough evaluation and training and then we as the community are stuck with more unhealthy leadership continuing to drive everything downhill. And who do we run too about it? The same 3 people that seem to be the primary point of contention for all of this chaos? It was somewhat of a rigorous process back then to even become just staff let alone CM. It is a very large responsibility and I am sorry if this hurts your feelings, but none of the current 3 are fit for service in that role based on all that I have witnessed and experienced since being staff. They individually lacked the experience necessary to succeed to begin with so again at the same time, I don't really blame them. We have a smaller community now and the circle of potential candidates for staff are in turn smaller so I understand how that has also played a part in it. 
TLDR

Replace the current CM team and start over. They have lost a significant amount of confidence within the community and fighting to repair that at this point is unrealistic. I can think of 3 potential candidates that currently have healthy relationships with the community as a whole to be effective in that role. Although I am in favor of 2 CMs instead of 3. 

Dont @ me
 

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Too busy sucking the life out of everything (bananas, peoples' enjoyment) rather than focusing on the bigger issue that asylum hardly scrapes 50% of the average time played of Olympus. For asylum to be getting raped by an altis server that has NLR in 2024 is kind of a sad state really, but glad to see we are worried about discord reaction harassment, shedding vehicles and suicide vests on 30-player "domination"
@Fitz is doing great work, but without paid incentive for devs in what is a limited talent pool asylum is well behind the curve
#remove@skimancole

Excellent work Junkerton, unfortunately not as good as my favourite player ryanL sadly

Well, nothing. You can't use an rpg on a bench... Do you guys play this game?

You guys got this!
 
If fitz has not some how made it past sgt this is especially for you buddy.

Good change, bad addition. Fuck you @william

Good change, bad addition. Fuck you @william

Good change, bad addition. Fuck you @william

Good change, bad addition. Fuck you @william

Good change, bad addition. Fuck you @william

Good change, bad addition. Fuck you @william

Bro no matter what bullshit "discretion" excuses you use, if you issue a kid a full ticket after he RP's with you (even if it's shit) it's robocopping which can be reported and given points for. it's embarrassing you're advocating to fuck over other players for an online e-ticket holy shit 🤡
it's a cops and robbers game calm down

If someone gives a full and articulate explanation of their charges and you proceed to issue them the full ticket they started at then I cannot think of any defense to that whatsoever that would make it not robocopping. But like I said, people can go crazy with his advice just don't be surprised when "discretion" doesn't save them from failure to RP points
 
I would add that the "should" is definetely an instruction statement. It's used elsewhere throughout the guidebook for that purpose. The reduction amount or pardon is officer's discretion, the fact that good roleplay invites a reduction isn't.

If someone gives a full and articulate explanation of their charges and you proceed to issue them the full ticket they started at then I cannot think of any defense to that whatsoever that would make it not robocopping. But like I said, people can go crazy with his advice just don't be surprised when "discretion" doesn't save them from failure to RP points
 
I would add that the "should" is definetely an instruction statement. It's used elsewhere throughout the guidebook for that purpose. The reduction amount or pardon is officer's discretion, the fact that good roleplay invites a reduction isn't.

This APD suggestion forum honestly needs to be deleted, constant clangers from vegetable brains these days. And all its doing is showing how far the APD has fallen off that troglodyte shit like this and the "Section F cadets" is the sum total of intelligence coming from higher ups