massi Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) Can you explain to me how initiation works for cop? I was downed by a cop who told me to simply "leave the hq". I was leaving and another cop downed me - no action was taken even though he did not initiate properly. If a cop tells me to leave the HQ, is he allowed to shoot? I was under the impression that you were supposed to give an ultimatum such as "leave the HQ or you will get tazed/shot/downed/etc". @Olio Edited February 6, 2017 by massi Link to comment
LastKiller Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 why are all the servers up except for server 2? Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 22 minutes ago, WilliamS said: Even windows that don't have any glass and the house is not locked? By no glass I mean the stone houses. There is no in-game mechanic that would allow you to access a house other that vaulting your legs through a wall. So no. It should not be done. Use a door. If it's one of those small tin sheds that is ok. As it's not a dwelling, and really does not have a window. Link to comment
WilliamS Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Just now, Olio said: There is no in-game mechanic that would allow you to access a house other that vaulting your legs through a wall. So no. It should not be done. Use a door. Just now, Gnashes said: Correct. They are changing that rule to mean "entry to any structure via any means except walking through a door is an exploit". Understood thanks. Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Just now, LastKiller said: why are all the servers up except for server 2? Paratus and Bamf have been working with issues the data center is experiencing with our servers. Hopefully we will get some resolution soon. Link to comment
william Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, Olio said: After talking with Volunteer and other admins; vaulting through a window is considered an exploit and should NOT be done. What about deerstands? Can we still jump through those Link to comment
Rodrigo Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, william said: What about deerstands? Can we still jump through those Yes. william likes this Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, william said: What about deerstands? Can we still jump through those These are like a railing on a balcony, so those are ok. Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, Monkeysz said: So if someone locks them self in a house at a cartel (Wongs) and I don't have a 7.62 how am I meant to kill them? Or do I just walk away and say GG If you can not enter through the door, you will have to find a way to kill him from the outside. Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Maric said: So I can go through doors themselves? If the door is unlocked, you open the door and walk in, yes. Link to comment
LastKiller Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 in how much time does your house get taken if you are not online at least a few minutes?30 days,2 months? Link to comment
Heidelberg Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 57 minutes ago, bigjohn561 said: This.... 4 hours ago, massi said: Can you explain to me how initiation works for cop? I was downed by a cop who told me to simply "leave the hq". I was leaving and another cop downed me - no action was taken even though he did not initiate properly. If a cop tells me to leave the HQ, is he allowed to shoot? I was under the impression that you were supposed to give an ultimatum such as "leave the HQ or you will get tazed/shot/downed/etc". @Olio This On 1/1/2017 at 8:48 PM, Volunteer281 said: Cop says "APD Leave HQ" and instead of leaving you shoot him... Is that RDM? Yes, that would be RDM as you described. Simply asking someone to leave HQ is not considered hostile initiation. Had the officer said "APD leave HQ or you will be shot/downed or restrained" then it would be ok to shoot him if you didn't want to leave. Cop says "APD Stop" and instead of stopping you shoot him... Is that RDM? No that would not be RDM as you described. "APD stop" is considered hostile initiation. Cop says "APD Leave HQ" and instead of leaving HQ you just sit there saying no and running around, so he decides to shoot you... Is that RDM? No that would not be RDM as you described. If the officer asked you to leave the HQ and you told him no then he would have the right to shoot/down or restrain you for disobeying a direct order. Cop says "APD Stop" and instead of stopping you just keep running, the cop then decides to down you... Is that RDM? No that would not be RDM as you described. Just like above if the officer gave you direct order to stop and you disobeyed him, then he would be within his right to shoot/down or restrain you. Do cops have to use hostile initiation like it says in the gameplay rules thread? All players regardless of faction need to adhere to the server rules. Link to comment
LastKiller Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 @Trilligy in how much time does your house get taken away by the script if you are not online?also does that time count for the days when the server is down like in the last 3 days for server 2 for example? Link to comment
Trilligy Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, LastKiller said: @Trilligy in how much time does your house get taken away by the script if you are not online?also does that time count for the days when the server is down like in the last 3 days for server 2 for example? 60-90 days and yes it is just done by date not run time, I believe it is currently set back to 90 Link to comment
LastKiller Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Just now, Trilligy said: 60-90 days and yes it is just done by date not run time, I believe it is currently set back to 90 thank you for telling me.also if you own houses on multiple servers do you need to connect on each of them from time to time or is going on only one enough to reset the wipe time? Edited February 7, 2017 by LastKiller Link to comment
RexProcer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Meatshielding is obviously not allowed on cop, but is it allowed for civ's or is it a bannable offense? Thanks. Link to comment
WilliamS Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gnashes said: I would advise against using people who're in cop cuffs to make aggressive pushes. People in zipties don't really matter. If I rescue my gang member from cops can i use him to block shots as I run away? Link to comment
RexProcer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: I would advise against using anyone in Godmode as a meatshield, really. So, by "advise" do you mean that this is specifically bannable, or simply not advisable? Link to comment
bigjohn561 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Is it considered a exploit if u use a vehicle to cap a turf flag? I seen a guy do it using a ifrit... Link to comment
DJB Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, bigjohn561 said: Is it considered a exploit if u use a vehicle to cap a turf flag? I seen a guy do it using a ifrit... It is not an exploit if there have been no changes to change this is it? Edited February 9, 2017 by DJB Link to comment
bigjohn561 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, DJB said: It is not an exploit if there have been no changes to change this is it? ty for your opinion.. DJB likes this Link to comment
DJB Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, bigjohn561 said: ty for your opinion.. Lol its more of a question to add to yours, I'm just looking for an answer as well. Link to comment
JIMBO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gnashes said: Will be changed next hotfix. I wasn't even aware that this was a thing. (People have to remember that they have to tell us things for us to know) Someone posted about it on the changelog a while back, pretty sure you were the one that said it wasn't exploiting, when you were an admin, that is. edit: Edited February 9, 2017 by Jimbo Olivia likes this Link to comment
bigjohn561 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 @Gnashes hmm its been a thing for a long time.. I just always thought it was a exploit lol... and always warned someone I seen doing that I will report them and they move away ty kindly for looking to fix it. Link to comment
Slayin Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, Gnashes said: I still wouldn't say it's exploiting; I just said I'd fix it. I also posted that 2 months before I gained the ability to fix it. This is the first mention of it I've seen since then. (And at the time I posted that I wasn't aware he meant "capture the flag from within the Ifrit"; I thought he meant "use Ifrits at Turfs") Why fix it if it's not a exploit Link to comment
Slayin Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: The same reason I fix every other bug. Someone wants to. Just leave it be and work on bigger issues. Link to comment
DJB Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gnashes said: Will be changed next hotfix. I wasn't even aware that this was a thing. (People have to remember that they have to tell us things for us to know) Yes sir specifically speaking we are referring to capping the flag while remaining inside of the ifirit. Edited February 10, 2017 by DJB Link to comment
Anonymou5 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2/27/2016 at 1:08 AM, Sneaky said: Sure can, you can shoot out the tires of a vehicle without any dialogue. The thing is, if you kill anyone in the vehicle on accident it would be RDM. Shooting at anything is very dangerous without proper and clear hostile intent. but is it RDM if they get out of the car and shoot and kill you? Link to comment
Sneaky Posted February 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Anonymou5 said: but is it RDM if they get out of the car and shoot and kill you? No, you opened the door to be killed. Link to comment
HotWings Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) @Olio Would it be initiation for someones friends to kill me if they think I am disarming a person? We had no prior RP with the group. Edited February 13, 2017 by HotWings Link to comment
Mike Stmria Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, Nicolas March said: Are cops aloud to put like 5 hand cuffs on a prisonner so its imposibble to lockpick them? There is nothing like 5 handcuffs Link to comment
Nicolas March Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Jaeger said: There is nothing like 5 handcuffs they spam the button to restrain you then you have to lockpick it 4 more times Link to comment
massi Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nicolas March said: they spam the button to restrain you then you have to lockpick it 4 more times i dont think you can actually do that Link to comment
JIMBO Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jaeger said: There is nothing like 5 handcuffs 35 minutes ago, massi said: i dont think you can actually do that It is/was a bug, if someone is downed and you spam the restrain hotkey, lets say 3x, you will have to lockpick them out of handcuffs 3x, atleast it was like that when I last played Ever had the message that you lockpicked your friend out but he was still in restraints? this was why edit: this is what I'm on about Edited February 16, 2017 by Jimbo Link to comment
Legit Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 1/21/2017 at 2:17 AM, Volunteer281 said: The official ruling on this... you would still need to initiate RP with the people in a car crash before you can shoot them. What about when a car hits you when you're just walking. It makes the driver red, already been killed a few times in Kavala due to people running into my car then shouting "Red=Dead" Couple questions on initiation with a group: For example if a member of Gang1 Shoots my car but is in a group and (in the same area) I come across a member also in Gang1 but not in the group (not red) may I shoot him? If not would it matter if I know they were playing with each other (Reviving, Same Vehicle, Etc) Many gangs use specific tags but aren't always in the same group, most people initiate with a tag instead of specific people. Is this allowed? (You're entire gang hands up or die) Link to comment
Danny Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Legit said: What about when a car hits you when you're just walking. It makes the driver red, already been killed a few times in Kavala due to people running into my car then shouting "Red=Dead" Couple questions on initiation with a group: For example if a member of Gang1 Shoots my car but is in a group and (in the same area) I come across a member also in Gang1 but not in the group (not red) may I shoot him? If not would it matter if I know they were playing with each other (Reviving, Same Vehicle, Etc) Many gangs use specific tags but aren't always in the same group, most people initiate with a tag instead of specific people. Is this allowed? (You're entire gang hands up or die) That is a good question and I would like to add something to it: When player A is in gang X, but currently is in separate group playing with gang Y and not even contacting his own gang, if the gang X gets engaged into some hostile rp situation, can player A react to it (get involved)? Or if player A gets killed randomly without even knowledge that his gang was involved in any hostile situation (as player A was currently in different group, and was dealing with different situations) does it mean he got RDM'd? If answer for my questions above is "this is not RDM, you are a part of the gang even when you are in different group you are initiated in all your gang situations", my second question is: Player A being a member of gang X, but having fun with different people at that time with separate group Y gets involved in following situation: Gang member from gang X gets shot at by APD and handcuffed, player A starts shooting at cops, when group members Y are initiated with cops? At the time player A starts shooting at officers (and becomes red for them as well as all the group), when officers shoot back, or maybe never? edit: Situation I described above is similar to Undercover police officers who come to the illegal area with marked officer. UC can shoot without announcing himself, but marked officer has to engage and announce himself as APD. If UC starts shooting at somebody marked officer still can't shoot, he is engaged only if rebels shoots back at him. This is where my above questions comes from. Edited February 17, 2017 by Danny Link to comment
Nicolas March Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 With the new prison, can you go to the drug runner plane, then soft log, comme back, then use the plane to go to the towns? or would that be exploiting Link to comment
Guest Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Nicolas March said: With the new prison, can you go to the drug runner plane, then soft log, comme back, then use the plane to go to the towns? or would that be exploiting Using bugs or glitches to your advantage is an exploit, yes. Link to comment
ApexRex Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 If I have a bounty hunter license and a officer hears my vermin has lethal ammo does that make him able to seize my weapon? Link to comment
Guest Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 2/16/2017 at 3:38 PM, Jimbo said: It is/was a bug, if someone is downed and you spam the restrain hotkey, lets say 3x, you will have to lockpick them out of handcuffs 3x, atleast it was like that when I last played Ever had the message that you lockpicked your friend out but he was still in restraints? this was why edit: this is what I'm on about I'm pretty sure I fixed that bug. Link to comment
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