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Approved Group cap will be increased to 20. Gang group remains unlimited We will continue to monitor and adjust the cap as necessary. We are hesitant to have unlimited groups. We found in the test wipe multiple gangs would group together and steamroll smaller groups/cops.  Regarding the Armed Ghost Hawk, we will be removing the ability to arm the Ghost Hawk from APD.  The increased group cap will take effect next time we patch, The Ghost Hawk change will ta
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7 hours ago, DarkKnight said:

I have used the hawk against you guys because of the constant fed spam over the last few days. It has been non stop. You guys say the hawk is annoying to deal with even though you still win most of the time. I think you guys forget it is annoying on the cop side to have to show up to the fed over and over and fight the same group all day. Most cops these days want to chill and go on patrol and fight a fed here and there. When you guys are on they barely have time to go check fields or interact with other players. So yes, I have been using the hawk against you guys to give you a rough time and help boost morale on cop. I'm just trying to help the cops have some fun and catch a win occasionally. 

Refering to your comment on me patroling with an armed hawk. That did not happen. Snoop was the one who sent the message and he was just trolling him. At the time the hawk was not armed. I would never do that. Except for one other bank I have only used the hawk this wipe against your gang. 

Clearly this has caused a lot of drama. I am not a toxic person or want to ruin anyones experience. I want people to have fun on the server and stick around. I will pull back my usage of the hawk. I also welcome anyone reading this to feel free and message me when I'm in teamspeak and we can have a constructive talk about any of these issues.

 

 

 

 

dogshit take bro were pretty much the only group that does feds and youre upset that we give yall something to do 

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12 civs in a group but 20+ cop slots? Evidence requires 12 cops but u can only have 12 civs?

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Approved Group cap will be increased to 20. Gang group remains unlimited We will continue to monitor and adjust the cap as necessary. We are hesitant to have unlimited groups.

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I will say, there is no need for a Ghost Hawk when the numbers are that one sided. Unless a Titan is added to the server to take it out to balance things out.

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1 hour ago, Donutkiller said:

Wait so you acknowledge that you win a lot but you are complaining because you don’t win more than you want?

I’m saying we as rebels deserve to win if we are already outnumbered by 6+ if 18 cops can’t beat 12 rebels because of a group cap why should they still be allowed to outnumber us 15v12 on the ground while still having the ability to have 2 gunners and a pilot on a ghawk…. They already have a mobile hq and mk kits. They are matching our guns with more armor and numbers. If they lose that idk how you can say we dont deserve to be rewarded 

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1 hour ago, Donutkiller said:

Wait so you acknowledge that you win a lot but you are complaining because you don’t win more than you want?

did you get hit over the head this morning bro?
 

5 hours ago, Pizza Man said:

Seems like just a lack of strategy on the APDs part, there should be no excuse with 18 cops to be pulling out ghost hawk. There is just a lack of leadership, no innovation, no coordination. You could spike the gates for a change, bench snipe, back your ifrit over h-barrier, van all jump spots, grenade launch smoke grenades, ifrit/strider smoke a gate and let people unlock and push, hot drop orca behind northeast building. Cops log off regardless of if they win or lose the fed events, they literally see bank channel get full then log in just for the event. Y'all are saying "why would cops push fed with default loadout" and complain at the same time that cops were getting downed with a civ spar... the server is designed that cops have every advantage, air HQ is less than 800 meters from fed, free guns, free level 2 armor, spike strips, swat level 2 helmets, swat vehicles, swat mk1, medic slots, restraints that instantly take someone out of the fight for duration of the event...

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Here is a fair conclusion for all.

APD shouldn't have to limit numbers on anything.

The Ghost Hawk shouldn't be on the server unless a fair counter is added like a Titan AA.

TItan AA 

150 for Launcher

100 For Rocket

Spend money to make money.

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15 minutes ago, APD captain gape horne said:

i love when people dont have to fight the ghost hawk tell us how easy it is to deal with the ghost hawk 

great take !!

bro its  paper thin just shoot it LOL !!

I love when people complain about not winning 100% of the time and when they lose they need to nerf the other side so they can win more.

10 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

I’m saying we as rebels deserve to win if we are already outnumbered by 6+ if 18 cops can’t beat 12 rebels because of a group cap why should they still be allowed to outnumber us 15v12 on the ground while still having the ability to have 2 gunners and a pilot on a ghawk…. They already have a mobile hq and mk kits. They are matching our guns with more armor and numbers. If they lose that idk how you can say we dont deserve to be rewarded 

You have better kits and better vehicles the majority of the time. No one has used the mobile HQ since wipe that Ive seen. No one deserves to win. You want them to drive up in hatchbacks so you can easily pick everyone off so you can get your win? You win the majority of fights yet when you lose you want to nerf the other side so you can win more. Just take the L and go on a practice server to figure out how to deal with it if yall cant.

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5 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

I love when people complain about not winning 100% of the time and when they lose they need to nerf the other side so they can win more.

In most of my post I’ve always advocated for the APD because they truly will always be less skilled than a group of players that constantly play together. But I feel there needs to be a middle ground on how many advantages the APD needs before it becomes too much and just unfun for the rebel side

8 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

You have better kits and better vehicles the majority of the time. No one has used the mobile HQ since wipe that Ive seen. No one deserves to win. You want them to drive up in hatchbacks so you can easily pick everyone off so you can get your win? You win the majority of fights yet when you lose you want to nerf the other side so you can win more. Just take the L and go on a practice server to figure out how to deal with it if yall cant.

You niggas need to make up ur mind. You call me a cheater but need to go to a practice server 🤡

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3 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

Btw… constables can literally have more armor than rebels and you can’t say we have better vehicles when the whole argument is about u guys having a fucking armed ghosthawk.

The best armor constables can have are Hunters and striders and thats only if they are swat and last I checked they are much worse than frits. Captains are the only ones actually able to pull them and in very specific situations. The only person that I ever see pull them is DK as well

4 minutes ago, fentanyl said:

donut lost the plot 

So many replies and yet youve still said nothing

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8 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

The best armor constables can have are Hunters and striders and thats only if they are swat and last I checked they are much worse than frits. Captains are the only ones actually able to pull them and in very specific situations. The only person that I ever see pull them is DK as well

So many replies and yet youve still said nothing

ironic ! try not being a smooth brained retard !

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12 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

The best armor constables can have are Hunters and striders and thats only if they are swat and last I checked they are much worse than frits. Captains are the only ones actually able to pull them and in very specific situations. The only person that I ever see pull them is DK as well

I meant in their kits u brain dead retard. They can have an armor 2 vest with coveralls

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3 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

I meant in their kits u brain dead retard. They can have an armor 2 vest with coveralls

My bad I cant read your mind. Either way seems like a skill issue. You lost 1/10 fights and went to the forums to whine.

 

7 minutes ago, fentanyl said:

ironic ! try not being a smooth brained retard !

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48 minutes ago, Tom said:

Here is a fair conclusion for all.

APD shouldn't have to limit numbers on anything.

The Ghost Hawk shouldn't be on the server unless a fair counter is added like a Titan AA.

TItan AA 

150 for Launcher

100 For Rocket

Spend money to make money.

Once apd figures out how to actually run a hawk civs are cooked ngl, if the average olympus gunner was running the hawks the server would just be dead already without a titan

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3 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

Oh youre right. I totally forgot the armed ghost hawk got added after the wipe and wasn’t around before the wipe. My bad disregard what I was saying.

the few one off times it gets pulled on you doesnt compare to the spam its been for us is what im saying retard 

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6 hours ago, DarkKnight said:

Well the cops received those buffs because the rebels were very hard to beat. At one point keeping cops on the server was very hard. We would have a full server and 3 cops on because cops were not having fun. Over the years rebels have had a lot of gear, guns, and vehicles. What would you like to see added? As I said before I always welcome feedback. If you think the rebels needs some buffs lets talk it over and maybe we can see some stuff get added. Before the wipe we added a shit ton of strong guns for civ only. I know it didn't work out but at least that shows we are willing to add more for the rebel players. 

how about we start with a titan? you want to pull the hawk? give us a reasonable way to take you down, make it expensive. Otherwise like lucien said its going to eventually get to a point where it nolonger becomes worth doing a fed event because even if we win, its still not fun.

5 hours ago, Sikorsky said:

We don't want buffs, we don't want new gear or vehicles, we want staff to stop giving special treatment to APD

When rebels are losing events, they have to adapt and come up with new ways to counter whatever it is that's causing them to lose, when cops start losing...

I probably missed a few

Also countless buffs in patches, meanwhile civs get only nerfs patch after patch (there have been a few buffs here and there but this is very rare)

literally this, you want some feedback from the civs/rebels? give us something (titan would be nice) one singular thing to make up for the 10+ policies and patch notes that directly buff the APD. they got a fucking marid for god sakes, what did we get?


On second thought, instead of giving us a titan launcher, why dont you push for a policy change, one single civ orientated (non temporary) apd policy, like maybe it cannot shoot you until its shot at. I hear this rule works very well else where. Or like rando said make it only able to be pulled so many times a week.

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5 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

The main reason it was added was to even the playing field when the same group fed spams winning over and over again. Remove the armed ghosthawk and extend the cooldown time for feds. You would prob have to increase the payout since you cant do it as much but seems like a win win

its not evening the balance, its giving the apd an extremely powerful weapon that in the right hand could obliterate any gang on any server. I invite you join us for a day and just see how little fun it is sitting in the fed getting torn up like you’re in Fallujah.

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5 hours ago, DarkKnight said:

Well the cops received those buffs because the rebels were very hard to beat. At one point keeping cops on the server was very hard.

Well now keeping players in hard when you are ghost hawking down a group of 12 when there are 18 of you don’t you see where we are coming from? The group cap is what the post is abt tbh it just dosent make any sense. U can’t even expect a gang to have enough numbers to match the APD 

6 hours ago, DarkKnight said:

When I first got CM my main focus was to talk to the civs

Keyword was

Gg guys but one quick question who is this edgy guy @fentanylposting on this thread?

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9 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

its not evening the balance, its giving the apd an extremely powerful weapon that in the right hand could obliterate any gang on any server. I invite you join us for a day and just see how little fun it is sitting in the fed getting torn up like you’re in Fallujah.

You may disagree saying it was an unfair balance but that was its intended purpose. Like I said remove it and remove the ability for fed spamming. Increase the cooldown from what is it 20 minutes? To an hour and increase the payout a bit. Cops dont have to deal with annoying fed spams and you dont have to deal with death from above

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4 minutes ago, Donutkiller said:

You may disagree saying it was an unfair balance but that was its intended purpose. Like I said remove it and remove the ability for fed spamming. Increase the cooldown from what is it 20 minutes? To an hour and increase the payout a bit. Cops dont have to deal with annoying fed spams and you dont have to deal with death from above

so its entire purpose, according to you, is to make all players not have any fun, because God forbid one group has fun and the other doesnt, now nobody has fun. Two wrongs dont make a right, at least before one group could enjoy their time at the fed. (even though when im on cop I love fighting feds all day, its a money printer)

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2 hours ago, Charks said:

 

Its beyond me ur all yappin niqqa, ghost hawk be paper thin anyway takes 1 mag to take it out lmao is what it is, cops for once had an advantage rebels lost end of story lmfao. Hella niqqas crying for no reason like its gonna change something. No one crys if u win a fed event as 12 rebels against 5 cops, it is what it is 

Even Innate crawled out of his shell to be here the scrawny little cunt

 

Paper thin doing drive a drive by at 300kmh and as soon as someone’s hit we land refuel jerk it a bit then heal and then go back for round 2 to hit a drive by on the open air deer stands and real paper thin tempest engines.

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2 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

so its entire purpose, according to you, is to make all players not have any fun, because God forbid one group has fun and the other doesnt, now nobody has fun. Two wrongs dont make a right, at least before one group could enjoy their time at the fed. (even though when im on cop I love fighting feds all day, its a money printer)

Most cops are constables with an MX, level 2 vest, and CSATs if they buy their best loadout. After the second fed in an hour most are done for the restart, the third gets more annoying and more that goes on the more annoying and less enjoyable it gets. Infamous this is a poor take. They were implemented to even the playing field after repeated feds. Remove them and extend the cooldown time. Simple fix

You have a fair argument saying it wasn’t a fair balance but a balance is what they were intended for.

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4 hours ago, Samperino said:

You're smoking crack, cocaine, and meth

please enlighten me, what advantage do the cops not have? They spawn with a free loadout, that ive seen you use multiple times, they get free armor with swat, they spawn within 1km of the event, they can send us straight to jail for attacking HQ or having a 300k bounty or having 6 plus fed charges, the only disadvantage is sometimes numbers. Im just having a hard time believing you understand how much of an advantage you have, I think its really a skill issue and you sitting under command center like a bot multiple times(being totally useless as a captain not pulling mks or armor) is perpetuating the APD leadership skill issue problem.

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1 minute ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said:

please enlighten me, what advantage do the cops not have? They spawn with a free loadout, that ive seen you use multiple times, they get free armor with swat, they spawn within 1km of the event, they can send us straight to jail for attacking HQ or having a 300k bounty or having 6 plus fed charges, the only disadvantage is sometimes numbers. Im just having a hard time believing you understand how much of an advantage you have, I think its really a skill issue and you sitting under command center like a bot multiple times(being totally useless as a captain not pulling mks or armor) is perpetuating the APD leadership skill issue problem.

your forgetting about insta seizing armor  

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