Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) So I decided to see how much you can make during drug running. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17-_Cmhdr14VFLN_z4h9ES8-8mLiaEDfcDOqUhv-E0uA/edit?usp=sharing Edited August 24, 2016 by Destrah Rag, BananaGoatPC, .Sean and 1 other like this Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 How it should be, maybe established gangs won't complain about money now. .Sean, Haych and Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz like this Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 if you are only making 164k an hour. you are doing something wrong Tiger likes this Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheRealLethal said: if you are only making 164k an hour. you are doing something wrong Well, if you look at my data most of the runs were the shortest one you can get which gives you the least per time. RNG gods aren't on my side. Edited August 24, 2016 by Destrah Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, Destrah said: Well, if you look at my data most of the runs were the shortest one you can get which gives you the least per time. well thats your problem Link to comment
Scott Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Destrah said: Well, if you look at my data most of the runs were the shortest one you can get which gives you the least per time. RNG gods aren't on my side. rip I got sofia to donor 4 times in a row server went down on the 4th Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, TheRealLethal said: well thats your problem Yeah, going to start from a different location and see if that changes it some. Link to comment
Bikstok Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 You guys are trying really hard to get this nerfed huh Heidelberg, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz, savage (; and 5 others like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Bikstok said: You guys are trying really hard to get this nerfed huh Isn't the goal of a goldmaking feature to make it so boring it's an agony to do it? Bikstok and Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz like this Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 12 minutes ago, Bikstok said: You guys are trying really hard to get this nerfed huh Not trying to get it nerfed. Just giving hard facts that way if they do decide to change it that it gets changed appropriately. Link to comment
.Sean Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 It shouldnt be changed, this is gonna help small people establish and become Financially stable Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz and BananaGoatPC like this Link to comment
Tye Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 31 minutes ago, Jimbo! said: How it should be, maybe established gangs won't complain about money now. I made money cap from it and that was the first I made money cap since og instinct asiuxjau likes this Link to comment
Plus One Chromosome Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 This is definitely trying to get it nerfed. Link to comment
Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Enjoy it while you can fellas, some people can't stand the fact that people are having fun and making money. Incoming nerf in 3..2...1.. Ewephoric likes this Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheRealLethal said: if you are only making 164k an hour. you are doing something wrong Thanks for the heads up. Doing it from the new location I average $197k per hour Edited August 24, 2016 by Destrah Link to comment
Gatorade Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Whats the worst thing that could happen if people had a lot of money? Fights? Big Bounties? Roaming the map GEARED UP???? Leave it be .Sean likes this Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sugarfoot said: Whats the worst thing that could happen if people had a lot of money? Fights? Big Bounties? Roaming the map GEARED UP???? Leave it be Could people please take these nerf complaints somewhere else. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about changing it. Link to comment
Gatorade Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Destrah said: Could people please take these nerf complaints somewhere else. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about changing it. You stated data, admins come here to read data correct? When they come to read data they also read opinions. This would be a place where both suit the context. Not anything against or to do with you Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, Sugarfoot said: You stated data, admins come here to read data correct? When they come to read data they also read opinions. This would be a place where both suit the context. Not anything against or to do with you Just so you know they already check much more accurate data they have from their logs. I was originally sharing this to show people how much they could make if they decided to do this. Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, Billy123 said: Absolutley trying to get this nerfed by posting something like this. Career cops trying to screw rebels. We have something thats actually fun now to make money, encouraging people to log in and you wanna nerf it cause the rebels got something cops diddent. ......... Link to comment
Gatorade Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 15 minutes ago, Destrah said: Just so you know they already check much more accurate data they have from their logs. I was originally sharing this to show people how much they could make if they decided to do this. Im sure they also read player logs because what the logs dont tell you is how many cops, bounty hunters, and arma-related accidents occur to curve that monetary value per hour to a much lower number asiuxjau likes this Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, Sugarfoot said: Im sure they also read player logs because what the logs dont tell you is how many cops, bounty hunters, and arma-related accidents occur to curve that monetary value per hour to a much lower number Yeah, I'm also not including any time to store money or anything. Just successful runs from when it starts to after I deliver them quality drugs. Link to comment
Legit Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 32 minutes ago, Destrah said: Yeah, I'm also not including any time to store money or anything. Just successful runs from when it starts to after I deliver them quality drugs. Don't listen to em. They are just salty somebody released the data on their money making method attracting more people to it. Good work and good info, if it was going to be nerfed it would be nerfed regardless of your data, at least with the data it can be nerfed without a blind stab. Can't believe how much people just want to be triggered. He posted information to satisfy all the curious minds too lazy to try it themselves. 52 minutes ago, Billy123 said: Absolutley trying to get this nerfed by posting something like this. Career cops trying to screw rebels. We have something thats actually fun now to make money, encouraging people to log in and you wanna nerf it cause the rebels got something cops diddent. If rebels make more money, cops make more money... Lol No career cop is trying to get this nerfed. Believe it or not, cops usually enjoy gunfights too. Seeing more gunfights outside of camping on bank roofs sounds like a good patch to me. Destrah likes this Link to comment
HotWings Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz said: Enjoy it while you can fellas, some people can't stand the fact that people are having fun and making money. Incoming nerf in 3..2...1.. You do know you can do fun shit in the game even if it doesnt pay the most right? Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, HotWings said: You do know you can do fun shit in the game even if it doesnt pay the most right? Fun stuff? Making money? Are you playing civ whilst doing these 'fun' activities? smh Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz likes this Link to comment
HotWings Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jimbo! said: Fun stuff? Making money? Are you playing civ whilst doing these 'fun' activities? smh If you dont find the game fun, you should probably go find something else to play... Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jimbo! said: Fun stuff? Making money? Are you playing civ whilst doing these 'fun' activities? smh I'm having a blast flying these drug runs. I'm also giving away all my money. I'm having fun cause I try to beat my previous times for a run. Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, HotWings said: If you dont find the game fun, you should probably go find something else to play... You didn't answer my question, also, not once did I say the game wasn't fun, I wouldn't have 3k+ hours on it otherwise, I said in a blunt manner making money on civ isn't fun, excusing the new drug running. Plus One Chromosome and Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz like this Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Destrah said: I'm having a blast flying these drug runs. I'm also giving away all my money. I'm having fun cause I try to beat my previous times for a run. That's what I'm talking about, it has a sense of enjoyment whilst making decent money unlike most other civilian money making methods, very long and painful to get through, very high risk and time consuming for such little payout. Link to comment
Destrah Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, Jimbo! said: That's what I'm talking about, it has a sense of enjoyment whilst making decent money unlike most other civilian money making methods, very long and painful to get through, very high risk and time consuming for such little payout. Yeah, I've never been able to get into any of the other drugs. Even when I first started I only played medic cause at least it was a different experience each time instead of just standing there gathering stuff. Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, Destrah said: Yeah, I've never been able to get into any of the other drugs. Even when I first started I only played medic cause at least it was a different experience each time instead of just standing there gathering stuff. Most drugs require housing to be worth while, requires a big investment (which is a huge problem for newer players, v expensive for a well placed house too), the new talents somewhat made it better but still very painful to get through with the cops/bounty hunters constantly coming back (e.g 5 cops come, kill 4, last one camps until rest return), it's an endless fight and forces you to abandon your run, I still think cops should have 1 life at a redzone, balances it out. Link to comment
Treeherder Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Needs a major nerf. Having fun while making money is not the authentic asylum experience. Todd Howard, Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz, Corgi and 2 others like this Link to comment
Keneith Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Don't forget the high risk of being robbed, crashing the plane, cops etc. Link to comment
Dr_Dingleberry Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 civs run drugs -> become rebels -> get big guns -> more action -> higher bounties -> more money for cops -> more drug runs -> more rebels -> more big guns -> more action -> higher bounties -> more money for cops -> civs run drugs again -> become rebels -> get big guns -> more action -> higher bounties -> more money for cops -> more drug runs ->... It works itself out. Money gets earned, money gets spent. Endless cycle. All this does is allow money to be made easier for everyone. That's good! .Sean likes this Link to comment
Dust Runner Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 6 hours ago, Jimbo! said: Most drugs require housing to be worth while, requires a big investment (which is a huge problem for newer players, v expensive for a well placed house too), the new talents somewhat made it better but still very painful to get through with the cops/bounty hunters constantly coming back (e.g 5 cops come, kill 4, last one camps until rest return), it's an endless fight and forces you to abandon your run, I still think cops should have 1 life at a redzone, balances it out. Too many balance issues and militarization of police to add life rules. Recently the captains AND admins have been braking hard on rules and the ruleplay that comes with them. I realize it's your opinion but it's never gonna happen because I can't count on all my fingers and toes how many times Paratus has declined furthering militarization of the police to no longer make the average civilian on cop fight fair. While I'm cool with militarized police it's plain shortsighted to talk about life rules with current police assets and equipment, and with consideration of the little guy in mind. TBH I don't like the idea of knowing I have 1 life to gather up a bunch of people and assault a drug field like it's a rebel base anyways. Communication isn't that good and because of the nature of how we select people for the police force (not ideally for combat WHAT SO EVER) it's a vice that will always be a vice. Nothing will change that. Like sorry but there's no way to not sound like an asshole saying that what you want is never going to happen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment
Budbringer Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 14 hours ago, Destrah said: So I decided to see how much you can make during drug running. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17-_Cmhdr14VFLN_z4h9ES8-8mLiaEDfcDOqUhv-E0uA/edit?usp=sharing Would be interesting seeing this compared to other money making methods. Go do some drugs! Link to comment
Feenix Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 12 hours ago, Jimbo! said: You didn't answer my question, also, not once did I say the game wasn't fun, I wouldn't have 3k+ hours on it otherwise, I said in a blunt manner making money on civ isn't fun, excusing the new drug running. Get him young jimbo Link to comment
Plus One Chromosome Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I'm a pretty good pilot and out of 10 runs I clipped a powerline once. Also was stopped by cops. Also was killed by a rebel once. So it is balanced just fine. Keneith likes this Link to comment
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