Canna Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 So maybe there is a way to please everyone in the community when it comes to "prison location." I was in TS on APD and we were talking about the good old days fighting prison breaks on Pyrgos. Everyone who remembers it all agreed that it was amazing some even argue "better" then the new prison. We can complain and even argue about the old the new or what ever. I think there is a solution. I would like to suggest we have a Maximum Prison added. The current prison we have is WAY beefed up compared to the old single fenced in yard, church, building, etc. it looks just like a Maximum Security type prison. Even in the act of performing a prison break, you have a couple extra steps compared to the old prison. Ideas to make them different. Maximum (Current Prison) Requirements - Bounties over 200k. Multiple explosive charges (suicide vest, speed bombs, rockets, etc.) Cannibalism, Any major charges that seem fit. Consequence - 1hr 15min No Jury option or No Jury Option for 30 minutes with good behavior (don't shank anyone). Additional 1 hr probation/Parole automatically after serving sentence. Can't work off sentence. Cost to pay bail doubles. Stripped of all rebel related gear. Consequence needs to be extreme. To make it worth NOT going or getting caught. Regular Prison (Reinstated Old Prision) Requirements - Bounties under 200k. Non Major Violations. All Current prison requirements. Consequence - All current prison settings. Link to comment
Scott Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Canna said: Consequence - 1hr 15min Space, Eric916, Defragments and 2 others like this Link to comment
JAY1HP Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 it's not going to be changed... R.I.P PRISON BREAKS... Link to comment
Isaiah Fuerte Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 An hour + in jail for living the Rebel/Gang life? I think not. DeadlyLogic likes this Link to comment
zane1 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Isaiah Fuerte said: An hour + in jail for living the Rebel/Gang life? I think not. yea Link to comment
Patato Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 45mins is already annoying enough if you end up in the insane asylum ((Can't press plates from there due to the locked doors )) Link to comment
Glass of Water Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Good idea in theory. But within an hour everyone would want it down. -1 Link to comment
King Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Canna said: Everyone who remembers it all agreed that it was amazing some even argue "better" then the new prison. The whole reason the prison changed is because all the cops fucking bitched and cried about the prison being too hard to attack. Link to comment
zane1 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, King said: The whole reason the prison changed is because all the cops fucking bitched and cried about the prison being too hard to attack. a lot of cops thought it was fun too but I guess too many bitched Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) When i hear the cop say he doesn't believe that my 122 manslaughters were in self defence and i'll go to maximum prison. Edited April 30, 2017 by Midamaru Ghouh, General Baked Potatoes, Steve and 7 others like this Link to comment
Heidelberg Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Nice suggestion, but I disagree with the bail-options on the maximum-security prison and additional parole. I see the correlation between high amount of crimes = harsher sentence. But I don't think too much regulation on high bounties is the way to go, will restrict actual play-time and be kind of annoying. Link to comment
Dredd Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Bring back old prison. Put new prison guard mechanics on fed (call it fed guard though). And fog at 100% ! CSAT wetsuits, sting for UC cop. Link to comment
Micheal schmeichel Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 oh shit i have a 200k bounty what do I do. Go to bank start and go on roof wait for 35 cops to lethal you u win Danny and Sp0on like this Link to comment
Danny Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Micheal schmeichel said: oh shit i have a 200k bounty what do I do. Go to bank start and go on roof wait for 35 cops to lethal you u win There is always a way, in the past it was quad bike chase to get lethaled, now roofs. Micheal schmeichel likes this Link to comment
heater Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Making the Prison 5 Hours will definitely make the prison breaks a thing. lmao Link to comment
massi Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN JUST QUIT LIKE THE REST OF US zane1, Space and Sp0on like this Link to comment
Canna Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 People crying about hr + are the ones who have to worry about. We all would have to worry about it. It doesn't even have to be a mandiotry. It can be an option on the scroll for cops if the crime/criminal is qualified for it. Like when seizing is done. What do you think the point of a Maximum is? its suppose to be more sever then regular prison. It doesn't even have to be an hour + can just stay the 45min max and add something else more sever like the other "consequences". Point of the thread is to brainstorm. not just shit on hypothetical numbers. what seems like a good idea for a maximum prison. Scenario - You have a criminal with a high bounty or whatever the requirements are needed to be met to allow a Max Prison sentence. You take them to the HQ and do your normal processing. You'll have it as a scroll wheel option like "Send to jail", but as Send to Maximum Security" or whatever seems fit. If the criminal does a good job rping his ticket he doesn't need to worry. But if he's been a handful and he keeps telling you to suck it from the back, well then. give them the max! I think this would be helpful for Kavala or other role playing scenarios. Or general attitude control. Doesn't just have to be high bounty related. Say kidnapping was a maximum offense. Might be less cops being kidnapped. Maybe. From some one who orders mass kidnappings all the time and love to kidnap cops....I might lay off a little more if I'm risking a lengthy sentence. Where on a map the size of Texas (sarcasm). 0 chance that there would be only one prison or jail. There would be a multiple, and there would be jails, Prisons, and a Max Prisons. Id go even further. Because I'm fucking crazy. I imagine semi banable offenses like harassment, mass RDM, ect, getting you a "Life Sentence" - Life sentence. As in one whole restart for from the time of you being put in jail. Instead of banning someone for 2-3 days or a week. Maybe give them consecutive life sentences. where all they can do to get there life back in asylum is to server it in jail. #NetflixAndChill Link to comment
Canna Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Midamaru said: When i hear the cop say he doesn't believe that my 122 manslaughters were in self defence and i'll go to maximum prison. Better have a better story. I was a chef cooking at a hall of 300 and something got into the soup. I could rp that scenario for 20 minutes. BET I get damn near off my ticket. Midamaru likes this Link to comment
Canna Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Heidelberg said: Nice suggestion, but I disagree with the bail-options on the maximum-security prison and additional parole. I see the correlation between high amount of crimes = harsher sentence. But I don't think too much regulation on high bounties is the way to go, will restrict actual play-time and be kind of annoying. Great Criticism, Remove the amount of bounty needed to get the concenquence and instead replace with type of crime or amounts of crimes committed. Banks, Feds, Suicide Vest, Speed Bombs, Kidnapping etc. Whatever seems just. Link to comment
The Monopoly Man Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 21 hours ago, King said: The whole reason the prison changed is because all the cops fucking bitched and cried about the prison being too hard to attack. Negative, It changed because paratus simply didn't like it there Treeontyn likes this Link to comment
Steve Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 57 minutes ago, The Monopoly Man said: Negative, It changed because paratus simply didn't like it there To me it seems like he has made a few HUGE changes in the last year that just aren't for the greater good. And in the end, it is his server but if he wan'ts it to prosper to the extent that it did they should really revert a lot of these ridiculous ideas that the community just did not ask for. Link to comment
Alcaz Calcazone Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 good idea but one hour is too long just for living the rebel life/ best life Link to comment
Canna Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 17 hours ago, Steve said: To me it seems like he has made a few HUGE changes in the last year that just aren't for the greater good. And in the end, it is his server but if he wan'ts it to prosper to the extent that it did they should really revert a lot of these ridiculous ideas that the community just did not ask for. Yeah it doesn't seem fair to be honest. He comes on a handful times a year. Where there are people with over 3000 and even 4000 hours dedicated to asylum servers. Then makes changes that HE seems fit with out even bouncing it off the people who run or populate his server. How about the fact that people pay hard earned money to get crate keys. People spend money here. Just my opinion but if people spend the kind of money I've heard and there opinions are completely dismissed. Puts a bad taste in people mouth. Would be great if he put a community post up with a pole to see if THE PEOPLE who populate and spend cash on his servers are for or against said ideas. Ultimately the decision is up to him and the higher ups but I think we should be able to influence this since so much of our life's are dedicated to his server and money being spent. Then to put the cherry on top. 1 hour ago, Alcaz Calcazone said: good idea but one hour is too long just for living the rebel life/ best life Thanks. Any ideas on how we can make it "Max"? Treeontyn likes this Link to comment
Philv2.0 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 0:14 AM, Canna said: So maybe there is a way to please everyone in the community when it comes to "prison location." I was in TS on APD and we were talking about the good old days fighting prison breaks on Pyrgos. Everyone who remembers it all agreed that it was amazing some even argue "better" then the new prison. We can complain and even argue about the old the new or what ever. I think there is a solution. I would like to suggest we have a Maximum Prison added. The current prison we have is WAY beefed up compared to the old single fenced in yard, church, building, etc. it looks just like a Maximum Security type prison. Even in the act of performing a prison break, you have a couple extra steps compared to the old prison. Ideas to make them different. Maximum (Current Prison) Requirements - Bounties over 200k. Multiple explosive charges (suicide vest, speed bombs, rockets, etc.) Cannibalism, Any major charges that seem fit. Consequence - 1hr 15min No Jury option or No Jury Option for 30 minutes with good behavior (don't shank anyone). Additional 1 hr probation/Parole automatically after serving sentence. Can't work off sentence. Cost to pay bail doubles. Stripped of all rebel related gear. Consequence needs to be extreme. To make it worth NOT going or getting caught. Regular Prison (Reinstated Old Prision) Requirements - Bounties under 200k. Non Major Violations. All Current prison requirements. Consequence - All current prison settings. Link to comment
HotWings Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 19 hours ago, Canna said: Yeah it doesn't seem fair to be honest. He comes on a handful times a year. Where there are people with over 3000 and even 4000 hours dedicated to asylum servers. Then makes changes that HE seems fit with out even bouncing it off the people who run or populate his server. Those people are always going to want whats best for their faction, not many people look at balance or the overall picture. Just how it effects them. 19 hours ago, Canna said: How about the fact that people pay hard earned money to get crate keys. People spend money here. Just my opinion but if people spend the kind of money I've heard and there opinions are completely dismissed. Puts a bad taste in people mouth. Catering to donors is a very slippery slope, you cant go down that path, starts with that, then people think they shouldnt get banned because they donate. As far as the idea of more time in jail and such? Maybe getting out early on parole after 15 minutes or something, but extended jail time and no way to get out? No thanks. Link to comment
Canna Posted May 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Alright so clearly extended jail sentance is a no go. each bullet is a suggestive concequence. I personally think just an added 1 hour parol after you get out is good enough. 3 hours ago, HotWings said: Those people are always going to want whats best for their faction, not many people look at balance or the overall picture. Just how it effects them. Catering to donors is a very slippery slope, you cant go down that path, starts with that, then people think they shouldnt get banned because they donate. As far as the idea of more time in jail and such? Maybe getting out early on parole after 15 minutes or something, but extended jail time and no way to get out? No thanks. Didn't say catering. I'm just pointing out theres people that spend excessive amount of time and even money here and their opinion, if its the mass's, shouldn't be ignored and dismissed. People are what makes this server run and last as long as it has. Without people there is no server. Link to comment
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