Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Hey guys, i want my gang to become better and better and push them to become like top gangs : Redrum, nv , BB and many others and I wanted to ask all other big gang leaders/experienced players how do you guys train your gang? What objectives/missions you do? I mean doing cartels 24/7 gets you better but what other trainings you do without this? For example what do you do on traininf servers?Thank you for your time. Olivia likes this Link to comment
Axe Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 lol Treeherder likes this Link to comment
rngr Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 You fight cartels. Apci and Treeherder like this Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, Axe said: 7 minutes ago, Ranger said: You fight cartels. But what do you do on training servers for example? Link to comment
rngr Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Apci said: But what do you do on training servers for example? You don't. You fight real gangs in real fights. Treeherder likes this Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'll skip your answer. I hope someone can give more argumented answers and more in-depth Link to comment
The Boss Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Fighting in-game against good players is a good start. Practicing on a training server doesn't hurt.. lets you get a feel for combat without worrying about your bank account. Apci likes this Link to comment
[df]Smokahontas Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Don't peak unless you can hit the target, forcing the other gang to push. And learn all the control - ASWD movements, and use "C" for CQC. Other than that, you should know where to aim from 300-600 distance out without having to look at the little numbers on your scope. If it's 800 + mark it on the map and range it. Literally all you need to know, and have game sense. Like where you're getting shot at (even though that's difficult with the new sounds), but you should center your self in a position where you can't get shot from. For example using Control "S" and using ALt to look around to see if your body is sticking out. But if you can't aim in the first place then all of this is fucking useless, because you'll peak for to long and get your head ripped off. Most important part is to NOT show yourself, UNLESS you can kill someone. The end. fin Edited March 15, 2016 by Smokahontas // Douggem Olivia, Shepurd, Enclave and 2 others like this Link to comment
henky Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) fight cartels come up with tactics try them out. no need to go on a training server, most of them are not the same as asylum . Edited March 15, 2016 by henky Olivia likes this Link to comment
Sean // Fitty Bread Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 yeah so what i do is i get them all flown over to iraq and we help out dean kill some arabs its really team building Olivia, henky, Seán That Irish Guy and 6 others like this Link to comment
allan thomas Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, Sean // Fitty Bread said: yeah so what i do is i get them all flown over to iraq and we help out dean kill some arabs its really team building idk if that was supposed to be funny or not... Heidelberg likes this Link to comment
Haych Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Put team chemistry before everything else. Don't pick skill over personality. Some people can be very good at the game, but if they don't get along with people, don't keep them around. Its all about working as a team, not individual skill. At the end of the day, most of us are here to have fun. Think of your gang as its own little community, play other games together for example. Its all about chemistry. Fight a lot. Learn the basics of the Asylum play style as its very different to other servers. Arrange fights with smaller gangs at first, learn your way around the cartels, then you can slowly start making your way up the ladder. Private servers is a nice place to learn about each other. Get you and your team comfortable with each other. Learn each others weaknesses and strengths so you can apply them to actual fights. I always adjust the way I play depending on who's got my back. Watch your recruitment. I've made this mistake in the past. Never take on to many guys, take it step by step. Bring in a couple new players, get to know them. Once you feel like you're going in the right direction, you can bring in more. Nothing destroys a gang faster than mass recruitment. Take it slowly. REDRUM used to use a well structured council system before we moved to Asylum. It consisted of 5 people who voted on decisions. Each Council member had its own role within the gang. This kept the gang going for 11 Months without a hiccup. When we moved over to Asylum, 4 of the 5 Council members quit Arma, thus leading to the disbandment of RED. Having a similar system may work for you, it may not. Some gangs are better off with a individual leader, some better off being run by a group. Find out what works best for you and apply it. Have Fun!. This is the most important. Being a part of a gang is all about having fun. If you see you are not enjoying cartels, don't do them. Just because another gang is calling you out in sidechat, doesn't mean you have to retaliate. Do activities that you and everyone in your gang will enjoy. Apci, Olivia, Shepurd and 4 others like this Link to comment
Buckwalter Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not a gang leader, or even very good at the pew pew stuff. But don't worry, I've got a fool-proof recipe for success. And the final, most important element; you need to be committed. Once you have all necessary items and the right outlook, you'll be ready to dominate. And when you taste that sweet sweet victory, you'll get to reap the ultimate reward. You'll earn the right to make snarky comments in side chat. Obviously I'm just joking around, most of the really good gangs didn't start out being amazing. They seem to recruit the best talent, then they play together long enough to work cohesively as a team and overtime the group as a whole gets better. So hit the recruitment section and try to find some crack shots and train to work as a team. Big Fred, Carson, pete and 10 others like this Link to comment
Breaktheglass Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I throw a wrench at their face and say, "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ban" bunni, Casey Jones, Olivia and 9 others like this Link to comment
allan thomas Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 i do solo training in editor ill set up a few civs with waypoints (ttargets not to kill) and a few bandits hiding (my targets) .. also helps if you take the asylum server files and make a private server but with thoes scripts so its the same you can simulate any kind of battle! great way to train, i always find myself in the editor training with a heli, or just on the ground! Olivia likes this Link to comment
Sean // Fitty Bread Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 49 minutes ago, allan thomas said: idk if that was supposed to be funny or not... no it's called Insanity Thursdays all soldiers and higher are flown on our private jet through Fanzer airlines to the location that our friend in the Marines is stationed. We then set out to practice Arma tactics on the battlefield. It's very team building and helps our morale. Seán That Irish Guy and George like this Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 37 minutes ago, Haych said: Put team chemistry before everything else. Don't pick skill over personality. Some people can be very good at the game, but if they don't get along with people, don't keep them around. Its all about working as a team, not individual skill. At the end of the day, most of us are here to have fun. Think of your gang as its own little community, play other games together for example. Its all about chemistry. Fight a lot. Learn the basics of the Asylum play style as its very different to other servers. Arrange fights with smaller gangs at first, learn your way around the cartels, then you can slowly start making your way up the ladder. Private servers is a nice place to learn about each other. Get you and your team comfortable with each other. Learn each others weaknesses and strengths so you can apply them to actual fights. I always adjust the way I play depending on who's got my back. Watch your recruitment. I've made this mistake in the past. Never take on to many guys, take it step by step. Bring in a couple new players, get to know them. Once you feel like you're going in the right direction, you can bring in more. Nothing destroys a gang faster than mass recruitment. Take it slowly. REDRUM used to use a well structured council system before we moved to Asylum. It consisted of 5 people who voted on decisions. Each Council member had its own role within the gang. This kept the gang going for 11 Months without a hiccup. When we moved over to Asylum, 4 of the 5 Council members quit Arma, thus leading to the disbandment of RED. Having a similar system may work for you, it may not. Some gangs are better off with a individual leader, some better off being run by a group. Find out what works best for you and apply it. Have Fun!. This is the most important. Being a part of a gang is all about having fun. If you see you are not enjoying cartels, don't do them. Just because another gang is calling you out in sidechat, doesn't mean you have to retaliate. Do activities that you and everyone in your gang will enjoy. Haych, i m honored to get response from you since i am the leader of atm most powerful gang in GTA (BLACK) and i always looked up to you and Pete, but we've go the point where team chemistry is not the same as it was when we had 10 people, with 10 we've won more fights than we do now, because leading fights its just too hard and commms get shitier each time.We've tried asylum and here players are way better and i wanna learn from leaders like yourself. Appreciate it alot Olivia likes this Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 37 minutes ago, Buckwalter said: I'm not a gang leader, or even very good at the pew pew stuff. But don't worry, I've got a fool-proof recipe for success. And the final, most important element; you need to be committed. Once you have all necessary items and the right outlook, you'll be ready to dominate. And when you taste that sweet sweet victory, you'll get to reap the ultimate reward. You'll earn the right to make snarky comments in side chat. Obviously I'm just joking around, most of the really good gangs didn't start out being amazing. They seem to recruit the best talent, then they play together long enough to work cohesively as a team and overtime the group as a whole gets better. So hit the recruitment section and try to find some crack shots and train to work as a team. it only works in COD sadly :/ Buckwalter likes this Link to comment
Axe Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, Apci said: Haych, i m honored to get response from you since i am the leader of atm most powerful gang in GTA (BLACK) and i always looked up to you and Pete, but we've go the point where team chemistry is not the same as it was when we had 10 people, with 10 we've won more fights than we do now, because leading fights its just too hard and commms get shitier each time.We've tried asylum and here players are way better and i wanna learn from leaders like yourself. Appreciate it alot Hey. Im his owner. Where's my blowjob for keeping him in one piece? Link to comment
FsX Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Apci we can arange some fights with you, if you don't know me I'm from the Northern Lights and we are pretty new to asylum and the play style so it will help us both I guess Apci likes this Link to comment
Haych Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, Apci said: Haych, i m honored to get response from you since i am the leader of atm most powerful gang in GTA (BLACK) and i always looked up to you and Pete, but we've go the point where team chemistry is not the same as it was when we had 10 people, with 10 we've won more fights than we do now, because leading fights its just too hard and commms get shitier each time.We've tried asylum and here players are way better and i wanna learn from leaders like yourself. Appreciate it alot Aha no problem man, I always try my best to help others. If you believe the gang is going in the wrong tracks and it was better when you had lower numbers, cut the loose ends. Re-evaluate your new members, get rid of some people. A smaller more active gang will always do much better in combat. Asylum is probably the best place if you want to improve on your combat skills. I've improved much better as a player on Asylum then I did playing anywhere else. Players here are good, there is no equipment that gives you a huge advantage such as suppressors and long range scopes like what GTA offers. I've said this before, and i'll say it again, Asylum is home to the best infantry Arma players I have seen on the game. There is multiple newer and smaller gangs on Asylum who are willing to fight cartels. Try to get a No-Chop policy with them so you can use Orcas and Ifrits without worrying about losing them. We tend to do this with newer gangs who fight us. Its a win win for both sides. Apci, Olivia, Enclave and 1 other like this Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Thank you Haych, i can't explain in any words how thankful i am. And why guys i've played asylum back in 2 years when Brotherhood was here Marauders, FSA and other gangs, But why Bad blood was so good and just rofl stomped probably any gang they've met? Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, FsX said: Apci we can arange some fights with you, if you don't know me I'm from the Northern Lights and we are pretty new to asylum and the play style so it will help us both I guess I know you we've rekt CMA @oil proccesing together haha, and we did fight as BLACK vs N.L quite often. Yeah ofcourse , i'll talk to my guys and hit you up! Edited March 15, 2016 by Apci Typos Link to comment
Swifty Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just don't do this and you will be good https://gyazo.com/97393c1ad6accd02145cbe0df39156de Bersabee likes this Link to comment
Miss Evo Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) These should help you with locations: og arms: meth: BikstokTM Edited March 15, 2016 by Miss Evo Link to comment
Jaylen Sarrett Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) i yell at them about how bad they are... jk i'm career cop, i has no gang Edited March 15, 2016 by Jaylen Sarrett Link to comment
Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I still think its funny how every gang adapted the Star rocks callout. I'm honored Seán That Irish Guy, Brutus, Gatorade and 7 others like this Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Star said: I still think its funny how every gang adapted the Star rocks callout. I'm honored Link to comment
Goldberg Attorney at Law Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 You need to develop a strong sense of entitlement and step up your side chat game. Sp0on, Enclave, Olivia and 5 others like this Link to comment
BrutaL Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Haych said: Put team chemistry before everything else. Don't pick skill over personality. Some people can be very good at the game, but if they don't get along with people, don't keep them around. Its all about working as a team, not individual skill. At the end of the day, most of us are here to have fun. Think of your gang as its own little community, play other games together for example. Its all about chemistry. Fight a lot. Learn the basics of the Asylum play style as its very different to other servers. Arrange fights with smaller gangs at first, learn your way around the cartels, then you can slowly start making your way up the ladder. Private servers is a nice place to learn about each other. Get you and your team comfortable with each other. Learn each others weaknesses and strengths so you can apply them to actual fights. I always adjust the way I play depending on who's got my back. Watch your recruitment. I've made this mistake in the past. Never take on to many guys, take it step by step. Bring in a couple new players, get to know them. Once you feel like you're going in the right direction, you can bring in more. Nothing destroys a gang faster than mass recruitment. Take it slowly. REDRUM used to use a well structured council system before we moved to Asylum. It consisted of 5 people who voted on decisions. Each Council member had its own role within the gang. This kept the gang going for 11 Months without a hiccup. When we moved over to Asylum, 4 of the 5 Council members quit Arma, thus leading to the disbandment of RED. Having a similar system may work for you, it may not. Some gangs are better off with a individual leader, some better off being run by a group. Find out what works best for you and apply it. Have Fun!. This is the most important. Being a part of a gang is all about having fun. If you see you are not enjoying cartels, don't do them. Just because another gang is calling you out in sidechat, doesn't mean you have to retaliate. Do activities that you and everyone in your gang will enjoy. listen to this guy, one of the best combat leaders i seen Apci and Haych like this Link to comment
Bikstok Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Miss Evo said: These should help you with locations: og arms: meth: I made those! Where's my royalties??? Enclave, Feenix, MrSmoke and 4 others like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) - Have your own teamspeak - Only put people you trust in leadership positions (drama in leadership breaks gangs) - No need for a training server but playing together as a team on Wasteland/KotH/CBQ servers can improve your teamwork/communication - Try being strict on taccoms since it really helps you focus better and get better callouts in fights - Try to increase your individual skill level (Make people practice) - Fight alot of cartels no matter who or how many. Every fight there is something to learn - Try get rich all together, having people demotivated because you lose a vehicle or some loadouts makes you play worse. - If it gets too much for you as a leader start handing out tasks (Recruitment, interviews, leading in combat ect.) - Give a good example to your gang (Advance in combat, wealth, leadership ect. If you gang thinks you're a silly idiot it's not gonna work :D) - Learn callouts like posted above, those things specifically point out a position an enemy player which is necessary for the fight. Edited March 15, 2016 by Midamaru Haych and Apci like this Link to comment
M4ST3R Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Midamaru said: - Have your own teamspeak - Only put people you trust in leadership positions (drama in leadership breaks gangs) - No need for a training server but playing together as a team on Wasteland/KotH/CBQ servers can improve your teamwork/communication - Try being strict on taccoms since it really helps you focus better and get better callouts in fights - Try to increase your individual skill level (Make people practice) - Fight alot of cartels no matter who or how many. Every fight there is something to learn - Try get rich all together, having people demotivated because you lose a vehicle or some loadouts makes you play worse. - If it gets too much for you as a leader start handing out tasks (Recruitment, interviews, leading in combat ect.) - Give a good example to your gang (Advance in combat, wealth, leadership ect. If you gang thinks you're a silly idiot it's not gonna work :D) - Learn callouts like posted above, those things specifically point out a position an enemy player which is necessary for the fight. +1 Link to comment
Gatorade Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 9 hours ago, Apci said: Hey guys, i want my gang to become better and better and push them to become like top gangs : Redrum, nv , BB and many others and I wanted to ask all other big gang leaders/experienced players how do you guys train your gang? What objectives/missions you do? I mean doing cartels 24/7 gets you better but what other trainings you do without this? For example what do you do on traininf servers?Thank you for your time. From my experience, training retards into decent players it takes a few things: 1.) Watch how they play, dont say there good when there not. 2.) Make them play in the cqc till they actually are worth brinigng to a cartel 3.) Go to as many cartels as you can, learn all the call outs, learn where you like to go / where most of your opponents like to go - GET atleast 1-2 spots at each cartel that are your go to spots 4.) Once you guys know how to fight, know locations, go make a private server and practice actual tactics. Theres no point in practicing tactics if you fucking suck at shooting. Learn how to rush a tower, Get a battle buddy system, learn how to fly / drive ifrits. 5.) Have money and vehicles at your disposal. You dont have to be perfect every fight, but you better fucking make sure you gear up and come back within 10 minutes of dying if you cant get a revive - which you should say IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN GET A REVIVE? One of the most important things to success - Envy taught me this one when I was the leader of siege back in July - Learn how to bait and move. One player moves up to a new location not only for his benefit but to also get an enemy to peek. While the first player, your teamate , is moving you and maybe even another member get ready to hard peek the enemy who will peek. This is a huge part of success for attacking. bunni, Olivia and Apci like this Link to comment
Big Fred Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Sugarfoot said: Get a battle buddy system, learn how to fly ifrits. Gatorade, Olivia and Apci like this Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Load up that auto hot key script and spray away Apci, Haych, Olivia and 1 other like this Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, 《New》 Krypton 《wəN》 said: Load up that auto hot key script and spray away This x10000000 Link to comment
Apci Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Thank you everyone for your comments, So many best players in the actual game gave advice, thank you guys very much ! Taking every single bit you guys said typin it down grinding and learning thanks ! Olivia likes this Link to comment
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FozzyBear Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bikstok said: I made those! Where's my royalties??? Since when do you use the term FORREST AND NOT FOREST I THOUGHT YOU WERE NOT AMERICAN! Edited March 15, 2016 by FozzyBear Olivia likes this Link to comment
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