Should First-Person view be forced in Cartel zones?

[Diseased]

PS what ever 27 of you voted yes. I have no hope fo you because either you must be horrible at the game or you've never fought cartels 

Edited February 5, 2016 by Diseased

[Crow]

No, 1st person isn't fun and gives me headaches.

[KevinOB]

18 minutes ago, Romulus said:

It is not like it was implemented, it is simply a poll to see where the community would stand on the issue.  If you like the idea you vote yes, and if you want give your input, and vice versa.  This is a community so i feel all people should have a right to voice their opinions no matter what side they stand on.  That being said, -1 for me.  I do like the idea of a server 5 first person, but i never liked stratis to begin with.

It's cartels only. Nothing to do with server 5 specifically.  

[Diseased]

Has anyone actually played in first person for more than an hour on Asylum? I'm pretty sure I'd get a fucking headache from how bad 1st person is.

[HotWings]

2 minutes ago, Diseased said:

Has anyone actually played in first person for more than an hour on Asylum? I'm pretty sure I'd get a fucking headache from how bad 1st person is.

I get a headache from how bad I am anyways, no change there 

[AceDread]

I don't understand why this is even a discussion.   Cartels don't need a change like this.   They need greater incentives and a wider variety of locations.  That's something we can all agree on.

[KevinOB]

2 minutes ago, Diseased said:

Has anyone actually played in first person for more than an hour on Asylum? I'm pretty sure I'd get a fucking headache from how bad 1st person is.

Yeah hcfp koth hurts my head after a bit. But if it's only at cartels it's not going to be more than an hour.

[Romulus]

8 minutes ago, KevinOB said:

It's cartels only. Nothing to do with server 5 specifically.  

I understand that.  I probably should have stated i just would not want it to be cartel specific.  I think it would be a bit awkward to have to adjust  to first person from 3rd person just to fight a cartel.

[eleec]

+1 

 

Would be much more interesting to fight like that.

+ cheaters would be easier detected when they spin around behind a rock to "hear" steps 500m away

[FozzyBear]

Grand Theft Arma enforced this only out of cars it was pure aids.

Yes, you can turn off your headbob and everything else but it still gets very naseuating blalba you know what it i mean and then cartels? I mean how are you going to implement it properly?

Big no. -1

[Jamooze]

What about reduced third person like some other life servers use? I used to be very against any kind of ArmA first person and even voted No when Paratus made a very similar poll many many moons ago but recently I've been playing first person battleroyal and golly gee wizz it is exciting. I can understand how a lot of the top shots on Asylum would be against this as it would force them to relearn a game that they already have thousands of hours in, but in reality it would be a fresh, exciting, and challenging change that I personally would look forward too. I would say make a single server first person and see how it goes for a limited time. 

[Ronald]

[Sylus Degalle]

Negative

[Widsyy]

are you high? thats my only question.

[Ronald]

Inb4 decision already made and this is just a formality like gang caps.

[Diseased]

18 minutes ago, Jamooze said:

What about reduced third person like some other life servers use? I used to be very against any kind of ArmA first person and even voted No when Paratus made a very similar poll many many moons ago but recently I've been playing first person battleroyal and golly gee wizz it is exciting. I can understand how a lot of the top shots on Asylum would be against this as it would force them to relearn a game that they already have thousands of hours in, but in reality it would be a fresh, exciting, and challenging change that I personally would look forward too. I would say make a single server first person and see how it goes for a limited time. 

People who are good in 3rd person would still be good in 1st, (besides me cause apparently all I do is look through walls ) but that's not the point, it's just full out Mongo mode and would not be enjoyable.

[Diseased]

5 minutes ago, Ronald Spiffington said:

Inb4 decision already made and this is just a formality like gang caps.

If so you can say hello Division goodbye cartels.

[Mr Smirnoff]

While it would certainly decrease the camping and make it harder I think people are so used to play in third it would just not be enjoyable. 

Also remove all the thin military buildings that u can look through and replace with concrete buildings that are harder to look through. 

 

[HotWings]

Just now, Diseased said:

People who are good in 3rd person would still be good in 1st, (besides me cause apparently all I do is look through walls ) but that's not the point, it's just full out Mongo mode and would not be enjoyable.

I could not disagree more with that statement tbh. There are plenty of people who only good because they can see people coming from a mile away while hiding behind/in something.  

[Diseased]

3 minutes ago, HotWings said:

I could not disagree more with that statement tbh. There are plenty of people who only good because they can see people coming from a mile away while hiding behind/in something.  

Make it 1st person you'll see the same players getting all the kills. Arma mechanics revolve around reducing recoil and being able to place your bullet where you target is at or will be at. Just because you are in a different view setting nothing will change besides the fact that most gangs will just fight ( if any gangs are left to fight ) at non-cartel locations. And it doesn't look like I'm being a " I speak for 95% of the community guy" because to me the PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY FIGHT CARTELS are voting NO and randoms/cops are clicking yes.

Edited February 5, 2016 by Diseased

[The Boss]

1 minute ago, Diseased said:

Make it 1st person you'll see the same players getting all the kills. Arma mechanics revolve around reducing recoil and being able to place your bullet where you target is at or will be at. Just because you are in a different view setting nothing will change besides the fact that most gangs will just fight ( if any gangs are left to fight ) at non-cartel locations. And it doesn't look like I'm being a " I speak for 95% of the community guy" because to me the PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY FIGHT CARTELS are voting NO and randoms/cops are clicking yes.

 

[MrSmoke]

3 minutes ago, Diseased said:

Make it 1st person you'll see the same players getting all the kills. Arma mechanics revolve around reducing recoil and being able to place your bullet where you target is at or will be at. Just because you are in a different view setting nothing will change besides the fact that most gangs will just fight ( if any gangs are left to fight ) at non-cartel locations. And it doesn't look like I'm being a " I speak for 95% of the community guy" because to me the PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY FIGHT CARTELS are voting NO and randoms/cops are clicking yes.

[Sylvester]

noooo pls no

[Lister]

Definitely the stupidest suggestion ever made.

[Sylvester]

1 minute ago, Lister said:

Definitely the stupidest suggestion ever made.

ikr it would be like playing laser tag with 7.62s

[Atmosphere]

1 minute ago, Lister said:

Definitely the stupidest suggestion ever made.

Not really, I can see where he's coming from. But I do think it's a bad idea.

[henky]

all the cops replying on this with yes, gtfo you dont even do cartels.

[Fluxah]

3 hours ago, Jaylen Sarrett said:

just drop shit stratis, and make server 5 a HC 1st person server

WOAH DONT TALK SHIT ABOUT STRATIS

 

just drop Jaylen and make one of the 4 altis servers 1st person to see how many people actually play it

[Sheriff Rick Grimes]

Why are career cops even posting in this thread?  You don't do cartels, it hardly concerns you.  Anything that you think would fuck over rebels though, right?

[Clint Beastwood]

Lets just focus on making cartels worth fighting for again.

 

 

Then we can throw out wild entertaining ideas like this one for shits and giggles @Motown

[Forrest]

Please don't

[bamf]

My thoughts are this:  

Remove the cartel locations that people don't care for (there are several).  Add in at least 1 more new spot to change things up a touch.  Make cartels worth fighting for a bit more (in some way).  Also, fix a few of the "bugs" in the way cartels work.  

P.S. No, this hasn't already been decided and this is just some way to tell you guys through code.  Motown wanted to gauge reaction to the idea.  

[Motown]

I really stirred the pot here it seems. Simply gauging interest! Don't kill me!

[Leftie]

Just now, bamf said:

My thoughts are this:  

Remove the cartel locations that people don't care for (there are several).  Add in at least 1 more new spot to change things up a touch.  Make cartels worth fighting for a bit more (in some way).  Also, fix a few of the "bugs" in the way cartels work.  

This.

Get cartels to a state where people will actually want to fight for them. Then get rid of all the desync issues that plague cartels making them pointless to fight even if there were good incentives. Only then may we even begin to think about this ridiculous idea of 1st person "at cartels".

[Reformed epTic]

Should I stick my dick in a blender? 

[Fluxah]

9 minutes ago, bamf said:

My thoughts are this:  

Remove the cartel locations that people don't care for (there are several).  Add in at least 1 more new spot to change things up a touch.  Make cartels worth fighting for a bit more (in some way).  Also, fix a few of the "bugs" in the way cartels work.  

P.S. No, this hasn't already been decided and this is just some way to tell you guys through code.  Motown wanted to gauge reaction to the idea.  

yes, this needs to be done, half the cartel zones people are just like "eh the cartel is at x location I cba to fight it there, if they go to the other cartel ill fight"

[Hiraku]

ITT: Video game elitists

[Jaylen Sarrett]

18 minutes ago, Sheriff Rick Grimes said:

Why are career cops even posting in this thread?  You don't do cartels, it hardly concerns you.  Anything that you think would fuck over rebels though, right?

did you not read what we said?

obviously not, so why don't you read before you speak, because then you'll be less confused...

We don't think it should only be forced on cartels, if it were to happen, force it on the entire server/servers...

I made the point that i enjoy how critical gaming did theirs, it's a much closer 3rd person perspective which would stop alot of people glitching and looking through walls, like that kid did on the video he posted on here the other day and he got shat on, rightly so...

(i'm assuming you're talking about me and the other SGT/LT  earlier)

Edited February 5, 2016 by Jaylen Sarrett

[Wang Liqin]

Thats a negative ghost rider, I repeat that's a 10-29 ABORT ABORT ABORT!

For real though if you really want to see how horrible this will fail then take down that waste of a server #5, make it altis, make it first person, watch it die, revert the update. Don't make a poll on the forums so all the career cops and trolls can vote for a first person on cartels when they dont even know where the cartels are located, ask the real players who fight the cartels daily.

 

[HotWings]

40 minutes ago, Diseased said:

Make it 1st person you'll see the same players getting all the kills. Arma mechanics revolve around reducing recoil and being able to place your bullet where you target is at or will be at. Just because you are in a different view setting nothing will change besides the fact that most gangs will just fight ( if any gangs are left to fight ) at non-cartel locations. And it doesn't look like I'm being a " I speak for 95% of the community guy" because to me the PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY FIGHT CARTELS are voting NO and randoms/cops are clicking yes.

 

No one is saying the same players wont get kills.... What is being said it you can no longer abuse the fuck out of the drone you have over your shoulder.  You wont be able to magically know there is some one sneaking up on you with actually looking to see if they are there.  You wont be able to see inside a house or through/around the walls. It would certainly make fighting harder, it wont prevent the people who know how to shoot from shooting. Its not the shooting down the sights aspect that changes....

Edited February 5, 2016 by HotWings