Ray Person Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 First off I’d like to say I don’t take any credit for this, I was given this idea by Vape Chan. So if your a rebel you get infamy for doing illegal stuff like selling drugs, of if you’ a bounty hunter you get honor for arresting people. What if you did legal stuff and get (whatever you wanna call it) to sell diamonds for more, or one of the talents could be that you have a higher chance to get flawless diamonds, stuff like that. Think you can do that @Jesse and @Gen. Henry Arnold? Mr.Purple, Nubis, Farmer Steve and 1 other like this Link to comment
.Casper Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 considering how long it took them to make the rebel tree i dont think they wanna spend another 5 years to make a civilian tree. Innate, Huan Lee, Bag Of Funyuns and 2 others like this Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Don’t we have civilian talents that do just this? J9HUNNA, Huan Lee and Bag Of Funyuns like this Link to comment
Ray Person Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Don’t we have civilian talents that do just this? Yes but this one will go more in-depth with the regular talents Link to comment
Ray Person Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Free Page! said: considering how long it took them to make the rebel tree i dont think they wanna spend another 5 years to make a civilian tree. True but with the new the new teams it might not take them as long .Casper likes this Link to comment
Mr.Purple Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) I can see the protental in this. For example, cheaper civ cars (max 15% off), faster processing of non illegal items (max 25%), and the list could go on. I like the idea. Edited February 27, 2019 by Mr.Purple Ray Person and Farmer Steve like this Link to comment
Ray Person Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mr.Purple said: I can see the protental in this. For example, cheaper civ cars (max 15% off), faster processing of non illegal items (max 25%), and the list could go on. I like the idea. Yea something like that Link to comment
Tyler Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 civs kind already have a full talent tree... and plus if you are trying to make money you almost always should do illegal stuff anyways. Just buy a rebel license get infamy and run drugs. Innate likes this Link to comment
Demon! Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 comp honor loss first please Link to comment
Virrx Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, Demon! said: comp honor loss first please getting honor is so easy though Huan Lee and Big Fred like this Link to comment
Good Lub Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virrx said: getting honor is so easy though getting it is, saving it is not sir! Link to comment
Virrx Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Uncle Bob said: getting it is, saving it is not sir! Then keep getting more Big Fred likes this Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Virrx said: Then keep getting more Tryhard Link to comment
Russell* Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 On serious note increase salt gather 15% or 10% refine i get a little sketch when processing salt wide open spaces haha Link to comment
Ray Person Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tyler said: civs kind already have a full talent tree... and plus if you are trying to make money you almost always should do illegal stuff anyways. Just buy a rebel license get infamy and run drugs. Ok what about the people who don’t want to be rebel or bh, I’ve met a decent amount of people who don’t want to be either. It’s also something for people to accomplish, say you have all the infamy and honor talents, you can work on the civ ones. Edited February 27, 2019 by Ray Person Link to comment
Big Fred Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 There is a civilian talent tree that does all this already. Faster mining. Higher chance of diamonds etc. etc. Civilians aren't supposed to be a high tier class with extra perks because everyone is a civilian.. Bounty hunter and rebel is an upgrade specialisation class from civilian. What you're asking for is really a third high tier specialisation. I'd say it should be a third class called Kavalian. Free rooks and shit. Link to comment
Ray Person Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 16 hours ago, Lucien said: What exactly do these people want to do? Cartels/Feds/Banks/Prison are the focuses of the gamemode (this is a light rp server after all) Yea idk what they want to do, they just said they didn’t want to be rebel or bh 5 hours ago, Big Fred said: There is a civilian talent tree that does all this already. Faster mining. Higher chance of diamonds etc. etc. Civilians aren't supposed to be a high tier class with extra perks because everyone is a civilian.. Bounty hunter and rebel is an upgrade specialisation class from civilian. What you're asking for is really a third high tier specialisation. I'd say it should be a third class called Kavalian. Free rooks and shit. Ok what about the ultimate citizen who is well known by the island so he gets discounts on cars, boats, and helicopters, or who is a professional miner and can gather and process materials faster, just little stuff that can make legal jobs a bit more worthwhile. Link to comment
Spec Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 22 hours ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Don’t we have civilian talents that do just this? I mean, we have those same talents for rebel stuff, yet we also have the infamy talents. Ray Person likes this Link to comment
Tyler Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) On 2/27/2019 at 4:35 PM, Ray Person said: Ok what about the people who don’t want to be rebel or bh, I’ve met a decent amount of people who don’t want to be either. It’s also something for people to accomplish, say you have all the infamy and honor talents, you can work on the civ ones. Then they aren't playing the game right. The game is based around rebels... you are SUPPOSED to go around fighting and killing people, bounty hunting, or playing cop. The minor civ stuff in the beginning is there just for new players to make some safe cash to start out without getting into a gun fight / robbed by a group of 6 rebels or stopped by cops every 20 minutes or some higher tier players stockpile the legal stuff to make guns/vehicles. Edited February 28, 2019 by Tyler Link to comment
wollie35 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 9:01 PM, Virrx said: Then keep getting more Making money isn't hard either. But if u lose it to shit servers u still want comp right? Link to comment
Ray Person Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 15 hours ago, Tyler said: Then they aren't playing the game right. The game is based around rebels... you are SUPPOSED to go around fighting and killing people, bounty hunting, or playing cop. The minor civ stuff in the beginning is there just for new players to make some safe cash to start out without getting into a gun fight / robbed by a group of 6 rebels or stopped by cops every 20 minutes or some higher tier players stockpile the legal stuff to make guns/vehicles. That’s what this would be, a way for new people to get started. Link to comment
Slick Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) On 2/27/2019 at 12:36 PM, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Don’t we have civilian talents that do just this? We could start with making civilian things actually worth while...make it profitable to run diamonds or fish or anything other than illegal stuff. The money to time is awful with legal civilian activities. Edited March 1, 2019 by Phil | OG Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil | OG said: We could start with making civilian things actually worth while...make it profitable to run diamonds or fish or anything other than illegal stuff. The money to time is awful with legal civilian activities. Well it can't be more than illegal money making activities for obvious reasons Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Well it can't be more than illegal money making activities for obvious reasons i dont see anything obvious about it. please explain Link to comment
Huan Lee Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 王 rando 王 said: i dont see anything obvious about it. please explain Why risk going to prison for running meth when you can get 10x the amount picking peaches, only if you get the talents of course Tyler likes this Link to comment
Tyler Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 王 rando 王 said: i dont see anything obvious about it. please explain Basically what @Huan Lee said the amount of money you make should be equivalent to the amount of risk you take. So pulling a Taru and slinging a HMMT Transport full of meth supplies is a shit ton of risk... if you get robbed you lose what $500,000-ish but the profit is ridiculous, compared to running diamonds where your only risk is a box truck and maybe some minor y inventory/gun so a risk of <$50,000 should not even be anywhere near the same profit as something like running meth where you risk so much input time/cash and can be interrupted by any rebel with a car and a gun or cops. Edited March 1, 2019 by Tyler Huan Lee likes this Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Huan Lee said: Why risk going to prison for running meth when you can get 10x the amount picking peaches, only if you get the talents of course 5 hours ago, Tyler said: Basically what @Huan Lee said the amount of money you make should be equivalent to the amount of risk you take. So pulling a Taru and slinging a HMMT Transport full of meth supplies is a shit ton of risk... if you get robbed you lose what $500,000-ish but the profit is ridiculous, compared to running diamonds where your only risk is a box truck and maybe some minor y inventory/gun so a risk of <$50,000 should not even be anywhere near the same profit as something like running meth where you risk so much input time/cash and can be interrupted by any rebel with a car and a gun or cops. dude ik, i was just being a smartass Link to comment
roomba madness Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 There are talents already that would do this exactly. Ontop of that a new license would be added called "civilian" I guess so it wouldn't interfere with the Infamy/honor points. Personally I don't think it would be a good idea and the talent system is fine for now. The extra stress this would add to the development team while they are working on server crashes and other bugs would be tremendous. Maybe further down the line when the server crashes and the bugs are fixed the talent system could be improved upon. Link to comment
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