they took the name eazy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) Just now, Gnashes said: Not entirely sure we want to. Nobody has really complained too much since then. Nowhere near as much as they complained when they wanted it the way it is now. What if, you made it so money auto generated into the gang bank but you had to collect the "tax" from arms You still have to collect money generated by players BUT money is also generated by the server which goes into gang bank Edited February 6, 2018 by Eazy.lookinass Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Eazy.lookinass said: What if, you made it so money auto generated into the gang bank but you had to collect the "tax" from arms Example: You still have to collect money generated by players BUT money is also generated by the server which goes into gang bank Why the hell would we make the spawned money auto-deposit in that scenario? Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) Just now, Gnashes said: Why the hell would we make the spawned money auto-deposit in that scenario? becaused the spawned money is like 5k every 20 minutes in this scenario people get to be lazy while still holding cap, but if they want to make big money, they have to be unlazy b00m eazy4cm Edited February 6, 2018 by Eazy.lookinass Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Gnashes said: Yeah, your math is way off there if you want when you were getting back. i cant make sense of the 2nd half of that sentence Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 what was generated automatically b4 change Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Gnashes said: For me to know, and you not to. (Unless Bamf feels like telling) why cant we know? Link to comment
Gagss Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Gnashes said: Unfortunate for them then. We can turn it all back to how it was in 5 seconds and a hotfix. Yeah unfortunate for them it’s not like they play on the server or anything Nicolas March likes this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Gnashes said: The community asked for auto-deposit back. We said we would, but we'd remove the server-generation of money into the fridge since the risk of being killed collecting it was going away. The community said they still wanted it, so we did it. Now here we are. ab invito Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) Just now, Gnashes said: The community asked for auto-deposit back. We said we would, but we'd remove the server-generation of money into the fridge since the risk of being killed collecting it was going away. The community said they still wanted it, so we did it. Now here we are. A lot asked for it this way but i think some thought it would still generate or would be like it was before when it would auto generate back in the day but right now as it stands its pretty useless to hold anything but drug. You can be as sarcastic as you want with people complaining about it or asking for a change to something they asked for so much but something needs to be changed. Edited February 6, 2018 by Sean That Irish Guy Link to comment
EthanS Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Please bring this back Cartels make no money. If I have all the cartels it should make more than 20k in a hour Donald, BioHazard and Gagss like this Link to comment
Gagss Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Azeh said: Just now, Gnashes said: The community asked for auto-deposit back. We said we would, but we'd remove the server-generation of money into the fridge since the risk of being killed collecting it was going away. The community said they still wanted it, so we did it. Now here we are. I question development decisions often. You have too Link to comment
Steve Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Truth be told it's slower then it was no doubt. We started encouraging people to run meth and on a few occasions now we have saved them from cops. It doesn't make as much as it did before you are right about that, but think about how much people were running drugs pre 6.0 compared to now. Every new player is in kavala with his head up his ass. Encourage people to leave kavala and continue the cycle of new players sticking around. jeans and HotWings like this Link to comment
Tusken Raider Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Lets make the auto deposit like the strife paychecks. Gagss likes this Link to comment
cHIP oTLE Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 If I remember correctly, the cartels auto generated about 1200 every 5 minutes. So over the server session, that's about 43,000 auto-generated cash per cartel. BUT, as said, people were BEGGING for auto-deposit, so why are we crying now that people got what they asked for? I always thought auto-deposit was a shit idea because I let people in my gang keep a portion of the money pickups for taking the risk. But, at the end of the day, I'm not much of a gang life person anymore, so this isn't my fight... Link to comment
HotWings Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Sean That Irish Guy said: With the new system where the cartel money goes straight into gang bank it no longer generates money over time. Now a lot of people wanted this, including myself, but i think we all expected the money to still generate over time like before. With the new system the only cartel worth holding to get money for your gang is drug. Arms gives really shit money and wongs only gives money when something is sold and most if not all people wait until early hours to go cap and sell scotch so as to not lose any to the cartel so its not really a money maker. I cant speak for oil rn as ive not had it so dont know the influx of money from it but regardless having 2 of the 4 cartels making somewhat decent money isnt how it should be. The generating money over time system should be brought back but make it not as much as before or the same just over a longer interval of time. @bamf @Gnashes They told you a million times before they changed it that they would remove the auto generated money and you still bagged for it.... Link to comment
Nicolas March Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Make it so Player based money (drugs and buying guns) goes into gang atm, then auto-generated money goes into frige, so you have a reason to fight (money in frige) but you dont need to go to the cartel for money. but if you want that extra cash you ca right now oil makes 1-3k per restart TLDR Proceesed drug, guns etc.. goes into gang atm Auto-Generated money goes into frige Edited February 7, 2018 by Nicolas March Link to comment
Steve Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Nicolas March said: Make it so Player based money (drugs and buying guns) goes into gang atm, then auto-generated money goes into frige, so you have a reason to fight (money in frige) but you dont need to go to the cartel for money. but if you want that extra cash you ca right now oil makes 1-3k per restart TLDR Proceesed drug, guns etc.. goes into gang atm Auto-Generated money goes into frige That's essentially one of the ideas I had. @Gnashes Would this be reasonably possible to script in? Link to comment
Walt Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 In my opinion I like adrenaline rush of trying to collect and cash in the dirty money but with this new update has made it very stress free not having to worry about the many roaches on the island. (sitting outside the cartel for an hour camping for someone to take out the money). Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Basically this update has made cartels just a couple of letters on a map Link to comment
Steve Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Eazy.lookinass said: Basically this update has made cartels just a couple of letters on a map Protect people who run meth. Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Steve said: Protect people who run meth. I want to fight cartels and have fun not sit with a finger up ma arse watching retards process fucking meth. Link to comment
Steve Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Eazy.lookinass said: I want to fight cartels and have fun not sit with a finger up ma arse watching retards process fucking meth. You get to fight cops in doing so. It's pretty fun tbh. Fighting Cartels is not the only enjoyable thing to do on Asylum in my opinion. Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Just now, Steve said: You get to fight cops in doing so. It's pretty fun tbh. Fighting Cartels is not the only enjoyable thing to do on Asylum in my opinion. I never said it was ”i want to fight cartels and have fun” i will be the first to tel anyone cartels are definitely not the funnest things to do on asylum, mainly cause they are complete shit now as the only way to profit off them is to babysit some retards while they afk for 40 minutes fighting cops is also not fun not when they just rush back in endless waves lethaling as they please Edited February 7, 2018 by Eazy.lookinass Link to comment
Steve Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Eazy.lookinass said: I never said it was ”i want to fight cartels and have fun” i will be the first to tel anyone cartels are definitely not the funnest things to do on asylum, mainly cause they are complete shit now as the only way to profit off them is to babysit some retards while they afk for 40 minutes fighting cops is also not fun not when they just rush back in endless waves lethaling as they please I prefer to fight cops over gangs most of the time. The past year of my experience on Asylum fighting cops is so much more fun because of how consistent the combat is. Link to comment
Gagss Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Eazy.lookinass said: i will be the first to tel anyone cartels are definitely not the funnest things to do on asylum, mainly cause they are complete shit now as the only way to profit off them is to babysit some retards while they afk for 40 minutes Well it’s a lot better than doing a meth run and not having to fight cops or rebels. If that is the case then your making pointless money that you are not going to use on gear to fight Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, MoldyLunchbox said: Well it’s a lot better than doing a meth run and not having to fight cops or rebels. If that is the case then your making pointless money that you are not going to use on gear to fight Yeah you’re retarded Link to comment
Gagss Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Eazy.lookinass said: Yeah you’re retarded I’ve been called worse by better Link to comment
EthanS Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, MoldyLunchbox said: Well it’s a lot better than doing a meth run and not having to fight cops or rebels. If that is the case then your making pointless money that you are not going to use on gear to fight agreed Link to comment
JAY1HP Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) I mean if you guys just added back a bit of auto generate, 100k an hour or something what is honestly fucking hurting? Why is stuff always such a minimal amount is it such a big deal for civs to make money? God forbid people to have extra cash and have fun on a game. god forbid the server be like it was pre 6.0..."It was too op people had too much money..." if i do recall that's when the server was the best and had the most players Or something along the lines of Arms Cartel Capped - Even cheaper weaponry Drug Cartel Capped - Extra payout from drugs as well as no cut Wongs - Scotch has extra payout as well as no cut X Gang held cartel for 1 hour 23 minutes, , 123k a restart , gang holds cartel all day = everyone is happy...i guarantee if there was some kind of money per minute and rewarded you for keeping the cartel capped as well as paying for the drugs ran we wouldn't be having this conversation..it always seems nothing ever pays enough, the devs think everything is fine, admins want to speak up but it wont matter, players always feel nothing pays enough, im sorry but if you keep getting the same complaints about something/someone it is most likely true OR just make it like the above on WEEKENDS ONLY just to test it out, that's called a compromise guys, admins/devs get their way 5 days a week, and the civs get their way on the weekends...it really isn't hard to appease the community guys this isn't rocket science, well i guess for gnashes it is, nothing he doesnt come up with won't be implemented, he hates every idea suggested, he seems to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed permanently do you ever hear people complaining about payouts on the other server everyone seems to be favoring lately? nope Edited February 7, 2018 by JAY1HP they took the name eazy, Sliick, BioHazard and 2 others like this Link to comment
EthanS Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, JAY1HP said: I mean if you guys just added back a bit of auto generate, 100k an hour or something what is honestly fucking hurting? Why is stuff always such a minimal amount is it such a big deal for civs to make money? God forbid people to have extra cash and have fun on a game. god forbid the server be like it was pre 6.0..."It was too op people had too much money..." if i do recall that's when the server was the best and had the most players Or something along the lines of Arms Cartel Capped - Even cheaper weaponry Drug Cartel Capped - Extra payout from drugs as well as no cut Wongs - Scotch has extra payout as well as no cut X Gang held cartel for 1 hour 23 minutes, , 123k a restart , gang holds cartel all day = everyone is happy...i guarantee if there was some kind of money per minute and rewarded you for keeping the cartel capped as well as paying for the drugs ran we wouldn't be having this conversation..it always seems nothing ever pays enough, the devs think everything is fine, admins want to speak up but it wont matter, players always feel nothing pays enough, im sorry but if you keep getting the same complaints about something/someone it is most likely true OR just make it like the above on WEEKENDS ONLY just to test it out, that's called a compromise guys, admins/devs get their way 5 days a week, and the civs get their way on the weekends...it really isn't hard to appease the community guys this isn't rocket science, well i guess for gnashes it is, nothing he doesnt come up with won't be implemented, he hates every idea suggested, he seems to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed permanently do you ever hear people complaining about payouts on the other server everyone seems to be favoring lately? nope so true, all of this. devs are getting stingy about money making and not thinking about fun for the players Gagss and Frizzy like this Link to comment
Sliick Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, JAY1HP said: I mean if you guys just added back a bit of auto generate, 100k an hour or something what is honestly fucking hurting? Why is stuff always such a minimal amount is it such a big deal for civs to make money? God forbid people to have extra cash and have fun on a game. god forbid the server be like it was pre 6.0..."It was too op people had too much money..." if i do recall that's when the server was the best and had the most players Or something along the lines of Arms Cartel Capped - Even cheaper weaponry Drug Cartel Capped - Extra payout from drugs as well as no cut Wongs - Scotch has extra payout as well as no cut X Gang held cartel for 1 hour 23 minutes, , 123k a restart , gang holds cartel all day = everyone is happy...i guarantee if there was some kind of money per minute and rewarded you for keeping the cartel capped as well as paying for the drugs ran we wouldn't be having this conversation..it always seems nothing ever pays enough, the devs think everything is fine, admins want to speak up but it wont matter, players always feel nothing pays enough, im sorry but if you keep getting the same complaints about something/someone it is most likely true OR just make it like the above on WEEKENDS ONLY just to test it out, that's called a compromise guys, admins/devs get their way 5 days a week, and the civs get their way on the weekends...it really isn't hard to appease the community guys this isn't rocket science, well i guess for gnashes it is, nothing he doesnt come up with won't be implemented, he hates every idea suggested, he seems to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed permanently do you ever hear people complaining about payouts on the other server everyone seems to be favoring lately? nope This is the smartest shit I ever heard tbh. Think about it this way, if you get an incentive for holding a cartel it motivates gangs to fights (i.e. brings gang life back in a sense). See I understand that the admins and devs want new people to make their money (legal activities) but does that mean that higher class gang warlords should have to deal with making low amounts? No. Lets make this an office reference okay. See you have Jim (day-to-day Ops,or the new guy money, legal activities) and then you have Micheal (big picture, warlords, illegal activities) and I feel it works to were new guys make their amount of money they need and then are able to move up. So to conclude 1) NEED GANG INCENTIVE (to keep people fighting capping etc) 2) We can have a line between new guys and experienced when it comes to making money. 3) feel free to fill other ideas THEY ARE NEEDED Donald and JAY1HP like this Link to comment
Maaqs Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 20 hours ago, JAY1HP said: god forbid the server be like it was pre 6.0..."It was too op people had too much money... It's almost as if there's a money cap put in place to prevent this nowadays +1 to your ideas JAY1HP likes this Link to comment
Frizzy Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 5:37 PM, Sean That Irish Guy said: A lot asked for it this way but i think some thought it would still generate or would be like it was before when it would auto generate back in the day but right now as it stands its pretty useless to hold anything but drug. You can be as sarcastic as you want with people complaining about it or asking for a change to something they asked for so much but something needs to be changed. So before the fridge at cartels the money went straight to gang bank AND was auto generated? Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, Frizzy said: So before the fridge at cartels the money went straight to gang bank AND was auto generated? Yeah and also drugs where ran a lot more before the fridge compared to now. Frizzy likes this Link to comment
Steve Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, Frizzy said: So before the fridge at cartels the money went straight to gang bank AND was auto generated? I don't believe that was the case. I do remember that people would run drugs a whole lot more though because their was no limit to how much they could run. Link to comment
Steve Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Just now, Azeh said: I realized It sounds weird the way that it is worded but auto generation I'm nearly 100 percent sure became a thing within the last year and a half. Before 6.0 it was auto deposit like everyone says (without auto generation.) Then 6.0 came along it was just drugs that were put into the fridge from when people ran them then you had to sell them your self but the drugs were not auto generated, then it became dirty money that was auto generated. And now we have the auto deposit method back in place. Edited March 31, 2018 by Steve Azeh likes this Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) On 2/7/2018 at 6:01 PM, JAY1HP said: do you ever hear people complaining about payouts on the other server everyone seems to be favoring lately? nope FUCKING TELL EM JAY oh that's old af Edited April 1, 2018 by Vanilla Coke JAY1HP and Frizzy like this Link to comment
Nicolas March Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 how about LOW spawned money + Activity money (drugs and buying guns) or something like minimum 10k per hour, so if oil makes 1k, 9k gets added, if 11k gets made, none get added Link to comment
HotWings Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 If you get an option between a and b and you choose b, you really dont get the option to come back 10 minutes later say you want both Link to comment
Nicolas March Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 If I have option a and then ask for option b, then get option c, yes I wana go back to the one that was better Just now, HotWings said: If you get an option between a and b and you choose b, you really dont get the option to come back 10 minutes later say you want both Link to comment
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