william Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Please remove it. I mean its not like weapons are stupidly cheap for us rebels we still pay 20-30k for a loadout. Not being funny but if the higher ups played civ too they would see how insanely stupid it is. Please remove it or at the very least re think it. @Jbdragon @Snatch @Durga BoBfromHR likes this Link to comment
Rag Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 +1 cops just zerg, get wiped, come straight back then just down restrain and seize instantly, absolute aids to fight cops while doing illegal activities JoMilla likes this Link to comment
{BOA}Cole Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Agreed, even when on cop i hate this policy. I try telling people not to do it and they usually just go "fuck you im allowed" Link to comment
Ronald Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 If the turf/arms discount worked like it should, combat seizing would be fine. If anything, that should be fixed. You're claiming to pay 20-30k for a loadout which might be the case without any discounts but you're still keeping everything but your gun/nades/glasses JIMBO, BaDaBiNg_10-8 and MY name is John Cena like this Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 The reasoning behind the combat seizing rule was due to the gun price changes. The discounting doesn't even work anymore, it's been broken for weeks, 2 turfs and arms and an MK1 is 9k. JAY1HP, Ronald and Chau like this Link to comment
william Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Jimbo! said: The reasoning behind the combat seizing rule was due to the gun price changes. The discounting doesn't even work anymore, it's been broken for weeks, 2 turfs and arms and an MK1 is 9k. @Snatch @Jbdragon @Durga Can we remove it until its fixed? Link to comment
Reapered Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Maybe we can find some kind of middle ground for combat seizing. Maybe try looking into ways to prevent people from using their weapons sort of like blood bagging after getting revived. Or maybe we can edit the combat seizing rule to be similar like adding attempted manslaughter charges, if u see the suspect shoot at you or he kills a police officer you can combat seize. Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, william said: @Snatch @Jbdragon @Durga Can we remove it until its fixed? Remove it completely, rule is absolute bullshit and should never of been there to start with, cops can return to the fight almost instantly, within minutes, it was balanced enough before hand, regardless, no cop has gotten close enough to seize my gun in the past month, all chris kyle bullshit. Vortex and Sir. ButterRump like this Link to comment
william Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Jimbo! said: Remove it completely, rule is absolute bullshit and should never of been there to start with, cops can return to the fight almost instantly, within minutes, it was balanced enough before hand, regardless, no cop has gotten close enough to seize my gun in the past month, all chris kyle bullshit. Well said. Link to comment
Phil. Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Nah. Keep it Not a Block and Maddox like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Sorry to break your rebel's dream but being able to seize weapons in combat sounds completely reasonable to me. You shouldn't argue about rebel vs cop gearing, skill, teamwork ect because you'll never see the end of it. If the discount isn't working the development should fix that, not the APD. Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz, Phil., Maddox and 2 others like this Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Midamaru said: Sorry to break your rebel's dream but being able to seize weapons in combat sounds completely reasonable to me. You shouldn't argue about rebel vs cop gearing, skill, teamwork ect because you'll never see the end of it. If the discount isn't working the development should fix that, not the APD. Cop a downs a guy, Cop b Holsters his gun, Zig zags bullets (DPI glitches in the Worst case scenario), Uses an OP hotkey to restrain people, says "im seizing your illegal gun" as fast as humanly possible, and magically makes your gun disappear, And dies immediately afterward. As a cop i refuse to do it, even when told to by others, it is a shitty rule, and is unfair to the person. william, Big Bird, Special K and 3 others like this Link to comment
william Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheRealLethal said: Cop a downs a guy, Cop b Holsters his gun, Zig zags bullets (DPI glitches in the Worst case scenario), Uses an OP hotkey to restrain people, says "im seizing your illegal gun" as fast as humanly possible, and magically makes your gun disappear, And dies immediately afterward. As a cop i refuse to do it, even when told to by others, it is a shitty rule, and is unfair to the person. +1 Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, TheRealLethal said: Cop a downs a guy, Cop b Holsters his gun, Zig zags bullets (DPI glitches in the Worst case scenario), Uses an OP hotkey to restrain people, says "im seizing your illegal gun" as fast as humanly possible, and magically makes your gun disappear, And dies immediately afterward. As a cop i refuse to do it, even when told to by others, it is a shitty rule, and is unfair to the person. I just think rebels should avoid even getting into the situation they are caught. Fighting cops is piss easy, sometimes i do a solo bank and just kill as they ride up non stop and i'm a shittier player lmao. When you get fukt, you get fukt in my opinion. Personally i don't combat seize either though, i'm more of the chill guy who ends up dead when playing cop Link to comment
The Monopoly Man Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 This is why I lethal someone, Zig Zag around bullets, then disarm them IAmLegion, TNT, Sp0on and 2 others like this Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Midamaru said: I just think rebels should avoid even getting into the situation they are caught. Fighting cops is piss easy, sometimes i do a solo bank and just kill as they ride up non stop and i'm a shittier player lmao. When you get fukt, you get fukt in my opinion. Personally i don't combat seize either though, i'm more of the chill guy who ends up dead when playing cop you say avoid getting caught, yet a majority of cops complain about people camping roofs/towers. If i wanted too, i could make sure to never be caught by cops. but whats the fun in that. Link to comment
Vhantom Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 If combat seizing is removed expect to see a rise in the use of lethals. When in a gun fight officers have a limited number of ways to turn the odds in their favor when out matched. Seizing weapons is a much better offer to rebels than lethaling a few to level the fight IMO. That way you keep your clothing at least versus everything. Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, TheRealLethal said: you say avoid getting caught, yet a majority of cops complain about people camping roofs/towers. If i wanted too, i could make sure to never be caught by cops. but whats the fun in that. People complain about everything, definitly if it's something that's beating them in a game. If the risk is fun why are we trying to remove combat seizing Maddox and sakha like this Link to comment
william Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Phantom Viper said: If combat seizing is removed expect to see a rise in the use of lethals. When in a gun fight officers have a limited number of ways to turn the odds in their favor when out matched. Seizing weapons is a much better offer to rebels than lethaling a few to level the fight IMO. That way you keep your clothing at least versus everything. sounds good to me. Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Midamaru said: People complain about everything, definitly if it's something that's beating them in a game. If the risk is fun why are we trying to remove combat seizing defeats the purpose of trying to save the person, they will be useless once saved anyway. Professor Pericles likes this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, TheRealLethal said: defeats the purpose of trying to save the person, they will be useless once saved anyway. Save him from 45mins between 4 walls? But yeah he'll be disarmed, useless but that's the "risk" you're running. How about we make orca's on the bank a bannable offense, it's too easy.. what's the fun in that! Oh well i think it's one of those topics we can go back forth about for a loooong time Phil. and Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz like this Link to comment
Vhantom Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, william said: sounds good to me. The issue is that lethals are discouraged most of the time and with recent changes to lethal payouts less people want to lethal across all ranks. So I wouldn't expect the current policies to change because it is the APDs only way to fully disable a criminal in a firefight. Link to comment
william Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Phantom Viper said: The issue is that lethals are discouraged most of the time and with recent changes to lethal payouts less people want to lethal across all ranks. So I wouldn't expect the current policies to change because it is the APDs only way to fully disable a criminal in a firefight. Sounds even better to me Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Phantom Viper said: The issue is that lethals are discouraged most of the time and with recent changes to lethal payouts less people want to lethal across all ranks. So I wouldn't expect the current policies to change because it is the APDs only way to fully disable a criminal in a firefight. Down and restrain everyone, lethal those in elevated areas if necessary.. Link to comment
TheRealLethal Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Midamaru said: Save him from 45mins between 4 walls? But yeah he'll be disarmed, useless but that's the "risk" you're running. How about we make orca's on the bank a bannable offense, it's too easy.. what's the fun in that! Oh well i think it's one of those topics we can go back forth about for a loooong time Why risk getting everyone caught for a guy who will be useless when saved, may as well go to his trial, or regroup and do a PB. no risk in downing someone and running like a retard and seizing his shit and then dying, you can come back with free gear in 10 seconds. william and Kettles like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 You know those paid user vs free user videos and images. Paid user = Rebel Free user = cop Olivia likes this Link to comment
Vhantom Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 I'm done lol. Your all just a bunch of salty rebels that think they need to outlast the cops in fights instead of escaping and that come rant on the forums when not everyone makes it out fully intact. 1 minute ago, Midamaru said: You know those paid user vs free user videos and images. Paid user = Rebel Free user = cop ^exactly Combat seizing is sometimes the APDs only way to get a scratch on rebels. Anyway, this is going nowhere and I'm gone. Link to comment
Big Bird Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 I never combat seize unless it is a ridiculously unfair fight. If I / we are outnumbered by some ridiculous amount then I might seize a weapon. If I want that person out of a fight I will down them and escort them away to a car like a reasonable person. Link to comment
Tusken Raider Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Why not keep combat seizing but the option only shows up if you are in restraints and 5m away from a police vehicle. william, Reapered, bobby99 and 1 other like this Link to comment
Haych Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Loadouts are cheap they said, everything will be cheaper they said. I still pay 25k for a loadout with discounts. nice. Sheriff Rick Grimes, sakha, TheRealLethal and 2 others like this Link to comment
JIMBO Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Midamaru said: You know those paid user vs free user videos and images. Paid user = Rebel Free user = cop Are you telling me the MX/MXM/MK20 isn't enough for constables? Maybe if cops pushed and actually worked together they'd stand a better chance, sitting 500m out doesn't work Kettles, Big Bird, Corgi and 2 others like this Link to comment
BrutaL Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 let's be honest if cops down someone, they run like headless chicken to get him restrained.. one by one..until eventually one manages to reach him and once a guy is restrained he is useless, no point in saving him and with the invincibile restraints its pointless Link to comment
Big Bird Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jimbo! said: Maybe if cops pushed and actually worked together they'd stand a better chance, sitting 500m out doesn't work Most cops are absolutely useless unless a higher up willing to pull vehicles is on. Either way I always push, solo or not. Google™ likes this Link to comment
Google™ Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 55 minutes ago, Parker said: Most cops are absolutely useless unless a higher up willing to pull vehicles is on. Either way I always push, solo or not. Lol I hid my post responding to you. Link to comment
sakha Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimbo! said: Are you telling me the MX/MXM/MK20 isn't enough for constables? Maybe if cops pushed and actually worked together they'd stand a better chance, sitting 500m out doesn't work with those vehicle that made out of paper Phil. likes this Link to comment
william Posted August 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 21 minutes ago, sakha said: with those vehicle that made out of paper solution: suck dick like jaylen > get promoted Sheriff Rick Grimes and Haych like this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 I don't think the discounted gear was enough to justify bringing back combat seizing. Then turf discounts aren't working as well...makes it even less justifiable. It was a bad idea and once again you see cops who just run out in the open with no regard for their own life to seize people's guns. That's incredibly stupid. william likes this Link to comment
sakha Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimbo! said: Are you telling me the MX/MXM/MK20 isn't enough for constables? Maybe if cops pushed and actually worked together they'd stand a better chance, sitting 500m out doesn't work with those vehicle that made out of paper Just now, william said: solution: suck dick like jaylen > get promoted bitc( its been 3 months in APD I and I still haven't apply for corp. showing all these not going fix problem sucking captains dick might work Link to comment
Pentax Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, BrutaL said: let's be honest if cops down someone, they run like headless chicken to get him restrained.. one by one..until eventually one manages to reach him and once a guy is restrained he is useless, no point in saving him and with the invincibile restraints its pointless Cops lethal, rebels cry. Cops down, manages to restrain, rebels still cry. 10/10 Edited August 27, 2016 by Pentax Phil. and Sp0on like this Link to comment
BrutaL Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pentax said: Cops lethal, rebels cry. Cops down, manages restrain, rebels still cry. 10/10 personally i've never been bothered with lethals and at the moment downing is just a 45 min jail sentence.. so any rebel would rather be lethaled because if you are downed its almost guaranteed a 45 min jail term since there is no benefit to saving one and can just do a prison break it should either be combat seize weapons or invincible restraints. it shouldn't be both but that's my opinion Edited August 27, 2016 by BrutaL Sheriff Rick Grimes likes this Link to comment
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