Prison breaks: Love em or hate em?

[powerwolf]

I've noticed a heavy decrease in prison breaks since they moved the prison off the island and onto mainland having only really seen two serious prison breaks (not just two friends with katibas trying to bust their buddy out) and I personally don't know how I feel about them. Most cops I've asked about it don't seem too thrilled about going to them and I can only assume the civ/rebel's don't like them because it honestly seems as if it's like a 50/50 battle right off the bat unlike tower defense simulator aka the bank. Anyways opinions on the bank?

[The Monopoly Man]

Prisons breaks nowadays were mostly done to just fight cops. By the time everyone goes to rebel, gear up, then fly over to prison to rescue their friend, their time is almost up. Go back a couple years and prison breaks were done on almost an hourly basis to actually free their friends. The old prison setup on the island with the military towers was the real tower simulator. Most people don't like the new prison setup because lets be honest, the location and set up is horrible for both sides. 

#Bringbackkavalaprison

[HomeTrlx]

8 minutes ago, powerwolf said:

I've noticed a heavy decrease in prison breaks since they moved the prison off the island and onto mainland having only really seen two serious prison breaks (not just two friends with katibas trying to bust their buddy out) and I personally don't know how I feel about them. Most cops I've asked about it don't seem too thrilled about going to them and I can only assume the civ/rebel's don't like them because it honestly seems as if it's like a 50/50 battle right off the bat unlike tower defense simulator aka the bank. Anyways opinions on the bank?

They dont like it cuz we can zerg rush them even better cuz theres no bridge lol..

[powerwolf]

8 minutes ago, The Monopoly Man said:

Prisons breaks nowadays were mostly done to just fight cops. By the time everyone goes to rebel, gear up, then fly over to prison to rescue their friend, their time is almost up. Go back a couple years and prison breaks were done on almost an hourly basis to actually free their friends. The old prison setup on the island with the military towers was the real tower simulator. Most people don't like the new prison setup because lets be honest, the location and set up is horrible for both sides. 

#Bringbackkavalaprison

I wasn't around for the kavala pistol prison but I kinda like it to where no side has a clear advantage and very good point 

Edited October 12, 2016 by powerwolf

[Heidelberg]

12 minutes ago, The Monopoly Man said:

 #Bringbackkavalaprison

 

[wilber38]

1 hour ago, The Monopoly Man said:

 

#Bringbackkavalaprison

 

[Phil.]

1 hour ago, Heidelberg said:

 

 

[Haych]

Still don't like it, neither does the rest of the gang. No one in Elysium goes "Lets do a PB anymore" because it's just boring.

Old prison was fun. Rebels where pretty much stuck in 1 area, it was enjoyable quick peeking and taking out the swarms of cops zerging the bridge, it was like Nazi zombies, who doesn't like that?. There was also a handful of power positions if the cops held that, it would fuck the rebels over making it somewhat balanced if the higher up online was smart enough. 

[g1ant]

Im missing the two-man prisonbreaks

[Sheriff Rick Grimes]

I don't think either the prison where the og bank use to be or the new one is all that great.  The old one was a quick peak battle and that's just who the server favored most.  It just needs to be overhauled.  Maybe like reduce the breakout time to five minutes ( Enough time for the police to get there ) and the objectives are set up in a way that is more focused on escorting the prisoners out of there safely.  

[George]

I miss the OG prison, the new placement is just awful

[Phil.]

31 minutes ago, Sheriff Rick Grimes said:

I don't think either the prison where the og bank use to be or the new one is all that great.  The old one was a quick peak battle and that's just who the server favored most.  It just needs to be overhauled.  Maybe like reduce the breakout time to five minutes ( Enough time for the police to get there ) and the objectives are set up in a way that is more focused on escorting the prisoners out of there safely.  

Now that might be interesting if there is a good way for that. Maybe like a certain path that has to be followed to get out. Have part of it indoors and part outdoors so they can't just fly in and pickup the inmates. Hmmm.....

[Frizzy]

3 hours ago, HomeTrlx said:

They dont like it cuz we can zerg rush them even better cuz theres no bridge lol..

I like it. Guess im the only one.

[Lorax]

Still better then doing a PB on Aussie life 

Edited October 12, 2016 by Lorax

[Legit]

 

2 hours ago, Haych said:

Still don't like it, neither does the rest of the gang. No one in Elysium goes "Lets do a PB anymore" because it's just boring.

Old prison was fun. Rebels where pretty much stuck in 1 area, it was enjoyable quick peeking and taking out the swarms of cops zerging the bridge, it was like Nazi zombies, who doesn't like that?. There was also a handful of power positions if the cops held that, it would fuck the rebels over making it somewhat balanced if the higher up online was smart enough. 

I have the perfect solution to this problem.

Raise the prison 500 meters into the sky and then put one ladder to climb up. Here is a representation of what it might look like. 

I think I meet the requirements for making prison changes. I'm about as unbiased as you can get, I've only been to the new prison once. 

Edited October 12, 2016 by Legit

[Phil.]

Hmm, could make the prison on one of the islands as well, don't even make it on the mainland. This would require people to use boats, helis and submaries more.

[Flax]

Bring back the old prison, get rid of towers on both sides and your good. I miss the garage being there.

[TiLLeR]

The new prison location and setup wasn't bad when it was first moved.  I really enjoyed the fights there especially the forest fights.  The APD had the advantage but it was not absolute.  After the last hotfix it's just 100% APD advantage.  Rebels have very few places to hide and defend from.  With little chance of a good fight or freeing their friends - why bother.  I'd love to see the deer stands back at a minimum but more changes would be welcome.

[Axe]

1 hour ago, Phil. said:

Hmm, could make the prison on one of the islands as well, don't even make it on the mainland. This would require people to use boats, helis and submaries more.

And exactly what island do you propose? Rofl. There is one other island that is bigger than a bottle cap and its Heli/Admin island. And its full of trees. So unless you want a maan made piece of aids. This will never happen. Plus, every cop and their mother will cry.

 

 

The new prison is aids for various reasons, heres a few:

• 90% of the places for cops to sit is reeds. Reed combat is aids af.
• The houses are close enough to consider it not sniping, but not close enough to make it cqb. Its this awkward clusterfuck of peek fighting.
• There is literally nothing stopping cars from just plowing into you in the sand bags. And if it's a hunter, literally kys. Because unless everyone is in the same sandbag or your name is Jack from the SS, (@Clint Beastwood <3) you are screwed.
• When you're defending against people who normally outnumber you and have infinite respawns, the last thing you want to do is have to watch 360 degrees, as close at 30m all the way to 500m. 
• Evac is next to impossible, if you do a PB now, you ARE losing whatever loadout you take. Exfil is not possible with new Orca dmg model and how close cops can get. \
• Deer stands are worthless when you can be peeked from anywhere and can't put your back against anything
• Sandbags are not cover because how easily it is to 3rd person over them

I agree, the old prison was pretty rebel side: But here's the differences

• Watching a max of maybe 270 degrees, which means you can peak and not be worried about getting shot in the back, It was't shooting fish in a barrel for cops
• Helis AND MRAPS were viable, now its just MRAPs or Desync sports.
• There was something to stop cops from just plowing into you
• It was hard to assault, but not impossible, CST could easily land on roof if they have half a brain and a humming
• It was far enough to be sniping(ish) but allowed for CQB during pushes. Current PB requires no sense of aim when everything in 20m from your face

 

Theres a happy medium when it comes to choke points. The old one was a very narrow choke point and suicide (if everyone was brain dead and no one knows how to hard peek)

Add a few more bridges to the old island and I think you would be fine, change the compound to allow multiple entrances similar to the old one and you would be fine, just dont expect people to have to watch 360 degrees + the sky. While rebels are almost always better than cops. You're asking to much when you're talking infinite respawns and infinite places to peek from while they have to watch like, 4. 

[Clint Beastwood]

16 minutes ago, Axe said:

And exactly what island do you propose? Rofl. There is one other island that is bigger than a bottle cap and its Heli/Admin island. And its full of trees. So unless you want a maan made piece of aids. This will never happen. Plus, every cop and their mother will cry.

 

 

The new prison is aids for various reasons, heres a few:

• 90% of the places for cops to sit is reeds. Reed combat is aids af.
• The houses are close enough to consider it not sniping, but not close enough to make it cqb. Its this awkward clusterfuck of peek fighting.
• There is literally nothing stopping cars from just plowing into you in the sand bags. And if it's a hunter, literally kys. Because unless everyone is in the same sandbag or your name is Jack from the SS, (@Clint Beastwood <3) you are screwed.
• When you're defending against people who normally outnumber you and have infinite respawns, the last thing you want to do is have to watch 360 degrees, as close at 30m all the way to 500m. 
• Evac is next to impossible, if you do a PB now, you ARE losing whatever loadout you take. Exfil is not possible with new Orca dmg model and how close cops can get. \
• Deer stands are worthless when you can be peeked from anywhere and can't put your back against anything
• Sandbags are not cover because how easily it is to 3rd person over them

I agree, the old prison was pretty rebel side: But here's the differences

• Watching a max of maybe 270 degrees, which means you can peak and not be worried about getting shot in the back, It was't shooting fish in a barrel for cops
• Helis AND MRAPS were viable, now its just MRAPs or Desync sports.
• There was something to stop cops from just plowing into you
• It was hard to assault, but not impossible, CST could easily land on roof if they have half a brain and a humming
• It was far enough to be sniping(ish) but allowed for CQB during pushes. Current PB requires no sense of aim when everything in 20m from your face

 

Theres a happy medium when it comes to choke points. The old one was a very narrow choke point and suicide (if everyone was brain dead and no one knows how to hard peek)

Add a few more bridges to the old island and I think you would be fine, change the compound to allow multiple entrances similar to the old one and you would be fine, just dont expect people to have to watch 360 degrees + the sky. While rebels are almost always better than cops. You're asking to much when you're talking infinite respawns and infinite places to peek from while they have to watch like, 4. 

[Phil.]

23 minutes ago, Axe said:

And exactly what island do you propose? Rofl. There is one other island that is bigger than a bottle cap and its Heli/Admin island. And its full of trees. So unless you want a maan made piece of aids. This will never happen. Plus, every cop and their mother will cry.

Just throwing out an idea, you don't have to be a toxic cunt like always.

Edited October 12, 2016 by Phil.

[Vanilla Coke]

1 hour ago, Phil. said:

Just throwing out an idea, you don't have to be a toxic cunt like always.

Cry me a fucking river.

[Phil.]

3 minutes ago, Vanilla Coke said:

Cry me a fucking river.

Who the fuck are you? Didn't know he had a toxic cunt butt buddy...why don't both of you keep your opinions and shove them up your ass? Thanks

[Axe]

2 hours ago, Clint Beastwood said:

 

You read it all, don't lie.

I know you don't work. You don't have anything better to do. 

xD 

[Axe]

2 hours ago, Phil. said:

Just throwing out an idea, you don't have to be a toxic cunt like always.

 

I think you belong in the YouTube hero's program since you think anything that's not sunshine and rainbows is toxic. Literally conveying a point and all the sudden I'm toxic because you realized you're wrong. 

Please. Use the extensive game knowledge Im sure you have to find me an natural island and build me a prison that isn't aids. 

 

 

 

o wait...... 

 

[Tusken Raider]

49 minutes ago, Phil. said:

Who the fuck are you? Didn't know he had a toxic cunt butt buddy...why don't both of you keep your opinions and shove them up your ass? Thanks

[Vanilla Coke]

56 minutes ago, Phil. said:

Who the fuck are you? Didn't know he had a toxic cunt butt buddy...why don't both of you keep your opinions and shove them up your ass? Thanks

Oh god, please don't ever relate me to that cancer patient ever again. But what he said here wasn't even near toxic, you are just being a bitch.

 

On topic, new prison is garbage w/ and w/o deerstands.

Edited October 12, 2016 by Vanilla Coke

[Goldy]

2 hours ago, Phil. said:

Just throwing out an idea, you don't have to be a toxic cunt like always.

I feel like you are the type of person to report me on league for calling you bad and like-minded riot employees banning me for it 

[Frizzy]

4 hours ago, TiLLeR said:

The new prison location and setup wasn't bad when it was first moved.  I really enjoyed the fights there especially the forest fights.  The APD had the advantage but it was not absolute.  After the last hotfix it's just 100% APD advantage.  Rebels have very few places to hide and defend from.  With little chance of a good fight or freeing their friends - why bother.  I'd love to see the deer stands back at a minimum but more changes would be welcome.

They removed the deerstands?

Damn stupid AF. If so 

[Phil.]

5 hours ago, Axe said:

I think you belong in the YouTube hero's program since you think anything that's not sunshine and rainbows is toxic. Literally conveying a point and all the sudden I'm toxic because you realized you're wrong. 

Please. Use the extensive game knowledge Im sure you have to find me an natural island and build me a prison that isn't aids. 

 

 

 

o wait...... 

 

 

5 hours ago, Tusken Raider said:

 

5 hours ago, Vanilla Coke said:

Oh god, please don't ever relate me to that cancer patient ever again. But what he said here wasn't even near toxic, you are just being a bitch.

 

On topic, new prison is garbage w/ and w/o deerstands.

 

4 hours ago, Goldy said:

I feel like you are the type of person to report me on league for calling you bad and like-minded riot employees banning me for it 

It's like arguing with a room full of retards.....

[Vanilla Coke]

Just now, Phil. said:

 

 

 

It's like arguing with a room full of retards.....

It's like talking to a fucking wall, you're dense as shit and don't have a brain.

[Axe]

5 minutes ago, Phil. said:

 

 

 

It's like arguing with a room full of retards.....

 

Yes. We're the retards when everyone else says you're wrong and an idiot.

 

[Feenix]

bring back old prison  

[powerwolf]

This topic went from actual feedback to a pissing match. Lovely.

[Eric916]

 

43 minutes ago, powerwolf said:

This topic went from actual feedback to a pissing match. Lovely.

Asylum for ya  

[powerwolf]

1 hour ago, Eric916 said:

 

Asylum for ya  

110% Accurate

[Phil.]

1 hour ago, powerwolf said:

This topic went from actual feedback to a pissing match. Lovely.

Sorry, from now on people aren't allowed to post idea unless they are mod qued by Axe and Vanilla Coke. I just like to point out stupid bitches when I see them is all. 

[MrClean]

Legit there is a really good spot on the map that has a lot of good battle spots would be a better place for a prison than the new one 

I can get some screen shots later 

Edited October 13, 2016 by -Predator-

[Phil.]

3 minutes ago, -Predator- said:

Legit there is a really good spot on the map that has a lot of good battle spots would be a better place for a prison than the new one 

I can get some screen shots later 

Better be careful, don't put ideas out. If Axe sees it diarrhea might explode from his mouth and anus. 

[BioHazard]

Only reason I do a PB is to slaughter cops when I'm bored...