Gang life

[Addon]

First off I know there is a lot of hype for the the modded server so that is taking some of the players off servers 1-4 for a bit. 

Let's be honest gang life is dying. Gangs are dying out, cartels are no longer fought over, and we see more and more people becoming career cops / quitting. 

Back in the day (pre 6.0) you would see gangs hop onto other servers to find a fight and they would get one 90% of the time because back then cartels were extremely worth it. I remember Bad Blood always swapping servers to fight and although they were the biggest and most feared gang on asylum gangs would fight them because they wanted to keep their cartel because of the benefits they were getting from owning it. There were small gangs attempting to contest cartels because if they got it, then they would get a lot of money from Arms, Meth, etc. Then these smaller gangs would get more money and grow and start getting better and more experience. Before there was a big and decent gang on every server and smaller gangs on the servers as well that would try to overrun the bigger gangs. 

Pretty much what I'm saying is give gangs more incentive to fight cartels / small gangs a reason to contest them and try to get bigger. 

Arms - gives a discount & the money goes directly into the gang bank at the same amount as it did pre 6.0 (reduced to fit the new market)

Drug - Keep it how it is with the processing benefits but give the old percentage back (adjusted again) and make it go directly into the gang bank. 

Oil - take a percentage of the oil made and deposit it directly into the gang bank (similar to drug cartel) but keep the rubber at the crate as well to give people a real reason to fight the cartel instead of it being wasted. 

Although alcohol isn't necessarily being used anymore considering the money drop on it - 

Alcohol Cartel - Faster brewing alcohol & if you own it maybe it sells for more (?) *unsure how it would work just an idea - or if you own it you take a percentage of the alcohol made and it gets deposited into the gang bank. 

 

Open for discussion - just curious what other people think and what others think could happen to make cartels worth it again. 

Fighting cartels is what made asylum so big and popular (for the most part) and right now they aren't worth it. Gangs are dead.

 

All in all. I miss all the gangs on asylum and people actually contesting cartels / server hopping for fights and getting them. 

 

 

[Swifty]

We can only pray.

[Satan]

I know the motives of Paratus and some of the admins are different, but you can still go in the direction of more of a roleplay server while also having more benefits of cartels. I personally love the roleplay aspect of the servers, but I also love the competitive side. 

[Eric916]

All i ever see is the same gangs owning territory and no one can cap it but other huge gangs. on server 2 the turfs are owned by latin kings during the day and fsa at night and these guys play 24/7/365 literally do nothing but play altis so there is never a chance for small gangs to cap. we've tried...

[Dork]

3 minutes ago, OLL13 said:

This has been brought up so many times and it needs to be addressed! +1

but.. they act like the don't know why because we don't talk about it 

[DeVo]

I've noticed the gangs activity, While most will go after a contested cartel if they own it and want to defend, But when it comes to Oil you can easily cap it without a fight and that gets really boring. I'd love to have an underwater war. That would be epic. Anything Paratus could do to fix the gang life would be to re-add those pre- 6.0 benefits/adjust or come up with a new system for how the cartels work and how they will give smaller gangs benefits, ect. ect.

[Ronald]

While we're at it, to do with arms, remove the "only the owner of arms can make MK1" bullshit

Edited March 9, 2016 by ug68fucvb b

[M4ST3R]

+1 Great Idea Addon 

[Scott]

47 minutes ago, ug68fucvb b said:

While we're at it, to do with arms, remove the "only the owner of arms can make MK1" bullshit

and mk14.

#762Equality

[Diseased]

Already been suggested 15 times, pretty sure they just don't give a shit.

[M4ST3R]

1 minute ago, Diseased said:

Already been suggested 15 times, pretty sure they just don't give a shit.

 

[Addon]

22 minutes ago, Diseased said:

Already been suggested 15 times, pretty sure they just don't give a shit.

unfortunately. @Paratus @bamf @Motown

[Frizzy]

2 hours ago, Addon said:

First off I know there is a lot of hype for the the modded server so that is taking some of the players off servers 1-4 for a bit. 

Let's be honest gang life is dying. Gangs are dying out, cartels are no longer fought over, and we see more and more people becoming career cops / quitting. 

Back in the day (pre 6.0) you would see gangs hop onto other servers to find a fight and they would get one 90% of the time because back then cartels were extremely worth it. I remember Bad Blood always swapping servers to fight and although they were the biggest and most feared gang on asylum gangs would fight them because they wanted to keep their cartel because of the benefits they were getting from owning it. There were small gangs attempting to contest cartels because if they got it, then they would get a lot of money from Arms, Meth, etc. Then these smaller gangs would get more money and grow and start getting better and more experience. Before there was a big and decent gang on every server and smaller gangs on the servers as well that would try to overrun the bigger gangs. 

Pretty much what I'm saying is give gangs more incentive to fight cartels / small gangs a reason to contest them and try to get bigger. 

Arms - gives a discount & the money goes directly into the gang bank at the same amount as it did pre 6.0 (reduced to fit the new market)

Drug - Keep it how it is with the processing benefits but give the old percentage back (adjusted again) and make it go directly into the gang bank. 

Oil - take a percentage of the oil made and deposit it directly into the gang bank (similar to drug cartel) but keep the rubber at the crate as well to give people a real reason to fight the cartel instead of it being wasted. 

Although alcohol isn't necessarily being used anymore considering the money drop on it - 

Alcohol Cartel - Faster brewing alcohol & if you own it maybe it sells for more (?) *unsure how it would work just an idea - or if you own it you take a percentage of the alcohol made and it gets deposited into the gang bank. 

 

Open for discussion - just curious what other people think and what others think could happen to make cartels worth it again. 

Fighting cartels is what made asylum so big and popular (for the most part) and right now they aren't worth it. Gangs are dead.

 

All in all. I miss all the gangs on asylum and people actually contesting cartels / server hopping for fights and getting them. 

 

 

+1

[bamf]

Before the Eden update, there were several things in the pipeline for gangs.  Given that we wanted to get a modded server out, it took priority for the last few weeks.  Hopefully in the near future a few things will be added back into the development pipeline in relation to gangs.  

[Diseased]

Incentive > 

[Sean // Fitty Bread]

anyone that wants to 1v1 my divison pure ill fuck u up shits lit here in the r1 leaderboards

[Whitey]

23 hours ago, DeVo said:

I've noticed the gangs activity, While most will go after a contested cartel if they own it and want to defend, But when it comes to Oil you can easily cap it without a fight and that gets really boring. I'd love to have an underwater war. That would be epic. Anything Paratus could do to fix the gang life would be to re-add those pre- 6.0 benefits/adjust or come up with a new system for how the cartels work and how they will give smaller gangs benefits, ect. ect.

I thineed a cool fight would be on the oil rig.  The oil cartel should move like the others

[Whitey]

23 hours ago, DeVo said:

 

[Treeherder]

Cartels don't need any more incentives. If you like cartels then the fun of the fight ought to be enough

[Eric916]

On 3/9/2016 at 2:16 PM, Sean // Fitty Bread said:

anyone that wants to 1v1 my divison pure ill fuck u up shits lit here in the r1 leaderboards

lol the division sucks ass

[Yenii]

2 hours ago, eric91611 said:

lol the division sucks ass

just because you're bad doesn't mean the game is bad.

[Haych]

I wasn't here pre 6.0 but gang Activity is fine for the most part considering there is a group cap, I always see gangs with 7-10 players on, but the issue about no one fighting cartels is the problem and I agree with you in that part. Gang Activity is not bad, people do other things in game, its just that no one fights cartels because of no incentive.

Gear is expensive and you get fuck all from cartels, you can start from there admins.

But as Diseased said, it's been suggested a thousand times and at this point its no fucks given about this important issue. 

[explicit]

Pre 6.0 Arms and Drug benefits would be amazing but I doubt anything like that would be added again.

I miss the days where you'd go to fight a cartel and have three other gangs show up with helicopters and ifrits, it's just not the same.

Nowadays you're lucky to get a fight and if you do the opposing side attacks/defends once and doesn't come back because there's really no point in having cartels anymore.

As everyone else has been saying - we need incentive. 

Hopefully Motown, Bamf, and Paratus do something this time, or we'll just continue to lose veteran players and gangs. 

[Diseased]

Literally 

 

Incentive.

 

Have cartels go back to how they were a long ass time ago, money would go from fridge straight to gang bank from Arms Dealer Tax / Drug Cartel. If you played back then take a look of the population / amount of small-medium gangs fighting literally 24/7 to hold down the cartels.

 

[Donk]

37 minutes ago, Diseased said:

Literally 

 

Incentive.

 

Have cartels go back to how they were a long ass time ago, money would go from fridge straight to gang bank from Arms Dealer Tax / Drug Cartel. If you played back then take a look of the population / amount of small-medium gangs fighting literally 24/7 to hold down the cartels.

 

exactly this, i remember back in 2014 it was like this. When i was in paradox and insidious we would fight a cartel against brotherhood or marauders and we would have like 2 other small gangs on the up and up come and fight too, ended up being 3 way fights or more. Even kavala rebel was a fight in itself just trying to gear back up to go back and fight, because everyone had the same mentality back then. which was fighting over and over all day to keep the benefits; none of these one and done fights cause who wants to waste money for no benefit?

[Reformed epTic]

2 minutes ago, Donk said:

exactly this, i remember back in 2014 it was like this. When i was in paradox and insidious we would fight a cartel against brotherhood or marauders and we would have like 2 other small gangs on the up and up come and fight too, ended up being 3 way fights or more. Even kavala rebel was a fight in itself just trying to gear back up to go back and fight, because everyone had the same mentality back then. which was fighting over and over all day to keep the benefits; none of these one and done fights cause who wants to waste money for no benefit?

I remember getting robbed by Paradox at cocaine all the time. 

Fuck you guys

Is anyone from Marauders even around anymore or are they all permabanned still?

[Donk]

Just now, epTic said:

I remember getting robbed by Paradox at cocaine all the time. 

Fuck you guys

Is anyone from Marauders even around anymore or are they all permabanned still?

hey man that was all jareddawg and c-feor, they loved camping coke lolol

[Reformed epTic]

Just now, Donk said:

hey man that was all jareddawg and c-feor, they loved camping coke lolol

I joined Paradox then it died the next day, rip. 

I swear to god I've joined at least 4 gangs only for them to disband within the next week

[bamf]

19 hours ago, Whitey said:

I thineed a cool fight would be on the oil rig.  The oil cartel should move like the others

You really can't have a cartel where normal players are expected to gather though.  That would just not work out.  

Now the idea of fighting on a structure and moving around - that I like, but the oil rig itself is not a place that can be a cartel if the gathering is still there.  

[kryptonthegamer]

18 minutes ago, bamf said:

You really can't have a cartel where normal players are expected to gather though.  That would just not work out.  

Now the idea of fighting on a structure and moving around - that I like, but the oil rig itself is not a place that can be a cartel if the gathering is still there.  

You know we just just fall through like 50% of it with how buggy arma Is.

[Filiip]

4 hours ago, bamf said:

You really can't have a cartel where normal players are expected to gather though.  That would just not work out.  

Now the idea of fighting on a structure and moving around - that I like, but the oil rig itself is not a place that can be a cartel if the gathering is still there.  

Notice me

[Whitey]

6 hours ago, bamf said:

You really can't have a cartel where normal players are expected to gather though.  That would just not work out.  

Now the idea of fighting on a structure and moving around - that I like, but the oil rig itself is not a place that can be a cartel if the gathering is still there.  

True but there are other places to place an oil rig.

[Jonah]

please dont make a cartel on the oil rig it will be aids

Edited March 12, 2016 by jonah1045

[xrantz]

Can't believe how many threads like this have been made and no changes still, smfh....

[Scott]

2 hours ago, xrantz said:

Can't believe how many threads like this have been made and no changes still, smfh....

smfh= shaking my fat head?

[xrantz]

1 hour ago, Scott said:

smfh= shaking my fat head?

who are you again?

[Scott]

17 minutes ago, xrantz said:

who are you again?

yeah

[rngr]

1 hour ago, xrantz said:

who are you again?

You know exactly who he is.  You are just being a cunt.

 

[kryptonthegamer]

17 hours ago, Diseased said:

Literally 

 

Incentive.

 

Have cartels go back to how they were a long ass time ago, money would go from fridge straight to gang bank from Arms Dealer Tax / Drug Cartel. If you played back then take a look of the population / amount of small-medium gangs fighting literally 24/7 to hold down the cartels.

 

Exactly. The dev doesn't get it lol. And its so blatantly clear.

[xrantz]

1 hour ago, Ranger said:

You know exactly who he is.  You are just being a cunt.

 

wtf lol, call me a cunt over a simple joke? guess ur salty from me tapping ur head off today.